Does anyone hate the idea of College Football/Sororiety etc.

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zeldapsychology
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10 Sep 2009, 9:54 am

I was walking through a store and saw a College Football calendar (you know the guy in color paint with his arms in the air kind) Well I said to my sister that's sad she said why I said well IMO College should be about getting a degree becoming a doctor,lawyer,Psychologist and she said well most people don't think like me. Also what are Sororitys etc. From movies I see they are STUPID all boy/all girl clubs once again the stereotype PARTY DRINK SKIP PAPERS/SCHOOL WORK s**t! (Sure not EVERY College student behaves like this but as my sister said most people don't think like me.) :-)



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10 Sep 2009, 11:25 am

First off, College is the experience of trying out different things. That said, many NTs like to be parts of groups and that is what Fraternaties/Sororities offer them. I am fine with that as long as I too am allowed to be me which means a group of one.

The same goes for sports. If you are into that thing, that fine. As for me, I am more willing to work and sleep while at college and do not bother me.

Now, if colleges were like High School where you were defined by your group/sports affiliation, I would have a problem with it. However, at most schools, you really are not defined by that. The decision is made by every person.

That said, most of the greek groups I saw at RIT were academic oriented. I know someone who did rush for a fraternity and they told me that one of the requirements was to keep a B average during the rush period as well as dress well and show respect. There was no hazing that I saw.

I think the movies really are off base in this issue. I remember Revenge of the Nerds but I have never seen a college which defined its members based on what fraternity they were part of. I am sure that there are some groups which indeed act like what the movies show but I think they are of the minority and to be honest, the colleges are trying to get rid of those organizations.



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10 Sep 2009, 11:52 am

Interesting IMO I wouldn't want to be part of a group just study to get a career football and groups aren't my interest I'm glad you aren't held to them and can be your own person. :-)



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10 Sep 2009, 2:10 pm

This shocked me when I worked it out but most students do not go the university to do biology, history, chemistry, maths or whatever. They go for other reasons, most of these reasons are unrelated to their chosen subject.


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10 Sep 2009, 4:43 pm

I dont like the idea of the greek system and what comes with college sports. I dont mind sports for the sake of wanting to play a sport but I dont care for the social aspect that comes with certain sports. I do agree, academics should be first prority. People often get involved with the greek system to fit in and find community. Its just not my thing. I have high doubts that I could ever fit in with a sorority.



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10 Sep 2009, 5:36 pm

Woodpecker wrote:
This shocked me when I worked it out but most students do not go the university to do biology, history, chemistry, maths or whatever. They go for other reasons, most of these reasons are unrelated to their chosen subject.



Uh Woodpecker? Don't you go to College to get a career? LOL! I thought so. IMO if you don't apply yourself to your field you must not have wanted to become a doctor etc. to begin with LOL!



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10 Sep 2009, 6:00 pm

They're mostly followers. I don't understand people but they use these groups for networking and future connections.

zeldapsychology wrote:
I was walking through a store and saw a College Football calendar (you know the guy in color paint with his arms in the air kind) Well I said to my sister that's sad she said why I said well IMO College should be about getting a degree becoming a doctor,lawyer,Psychologist and she said well most people don't think like me. Also what are Sororitys etc. From movies I see they are STUPID all boy/all girl clubs once again the stereotype PARTY DRINK SKIP PAPERS/SCHOOL WORK sh**! (Sure not EVERY College student behaves like this but as my sister said most people don't think like me.) :-)


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10 Sep 2009, 8:52 pm

The attitudes of the students will differ a lot depending on where you go to school. Currently I'm at jr college. The adults try really hard while some of the people my age say their parents are "making" them go there. Some people are there to learn while some feel pressured to be there so they goof off at school.

Personally, I have no problem with sports, Greek systems, etc. Coincidentally, the school I hope to attend next year has no football team and no Greek system :D I wouldn't mind if they did, but I like it that way now. At a lot of private or liberal arts schools their frats and sororities don't just drink and party and some don't even houses that they live in together (I mean, one sorority lives in the same house). They get together and do community service and things like that. I try to look at reviews by students of colleges or go tour the school to get a feel of if it's too "Greeky" or something else I might not like. There was one school I was sure I was going to love, but after I toured it and saw all the students I marked it off completely.



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11 Sep 2009, 6:01 am

I have disagree with your mindset about college in general, Zelda. First, people go to college to advance their education is true but focusing on that aspect alone is a very bad thing since how would you unstressed yourself from the daily class grind. College is also a social experience where you meet new people through groups that interested you. Third, College Sports are not stupid because going to games help you lose stress big time.

Since I went to all of George Mason home basketball games in my junior year, I have done better academical than just being focused on academics alone. The mindset you have is the old mindset of my parents' generation but they also understand the need to socialized. I am a member of a honor society at George Mason and I like to socialize because you have many opportunities to make friends and create special bonds with people during your college years.


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11 Sep 2009, 10:26 am

I have never been a member of a sorority, but I do get hte impression from my sister indeed that they are pretty stupid. She is not in a sorority, ie. all girls club, but in a mixed club. But they do mostly party, drink lots of alcohol, etc.



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11 Sep 2009, 2:36 pm

JerryHatake wrote:
I have disagree with your mindset about college in general, Zelda. First, people go to college to advance their education is true but focusing on that aspect alone is a very bad thing since how would you unstressed yourself from the daily class grind. College is also a social experience where you meet new people through groups that interested you. Third, College Sports are not stupid because going to games help you lose stress big time.

Since I went to all of George Mason home basketball games in my junior year, I have done better academical than just being focused on academics alone. The mindset you have is the old mindset of my parents' generation but they also understand the need to socialized. I am a member of a honor society at George Mason and I like to socialize because you have many opportunities to make friends and create special bonds with people during your college years.


Interesting view. My special interest in College (when I was going) was Psychology (and still slightly is an interest) and while there it's all I thought/talked of. (I'd research things daily!) :-) I even did a research paper during Christmas break (2 weeks) for the following semester in January I was VERY dedicated to learning Psychology obsessively so (Ya life with AS LOL!)

I agree socializing is important but overall as of now considering my life history I've screwed up so many relationships (friends, etc.) that I'm not sure if I want to put myself out there to socialize (I'm kind of too scared what if I screw up again which IMO could lead to big complications fired from a job or worse jail.)

So behaviorly I need to get my act together and learn to behave correctly first and formost. I don't think it'd stress you out if your career field is of special interest (although I'm not counting out tv or videogames as a hobby to destress or going out nicely) just not the partying and stereotype behavior people you hear of. :-)

Hopefully I didn't offend you or anyone.



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12 Sep 2009, 2:13 am

zeldapsychology wrote:
Woodpecker wrote:
This shocked me when I worked it out but most students do not go the university to do biology, history, chemistry, maths or whatever. They go for other reasons, most of these reasons are unrelated to their chosen subject.



Uh Woodpecker? Don't you go to College to get a career? LOL! I thought so. IMO if you don't apply yourself to your field you must not have wanted to become a doctor etc. to begin with LOL!


When I went to university originally I thought that all students went becuase they loved their subject so much, this was becuase I did. I suspect that a person with AS is more likely to go to university to study a subject. The NT is more likely to go to university for some other reason and use the subject as a means of getting to university. I think it might be a major difference between the NT and AS students.

I can not say that all NTs will "do a subject so that they can go to university becuase they love the idea of the university experience" while all AS students will "go to university as it offers them the chance to do a subject which they love so much"

I also had a long term plan when I started at university, I wanted to do a BSc, then a PhD before getting a job within the subject which I love (my special interest). Now almost 20 years after going off to university I am still following the plan which I worked out in my late teens.


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