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Naxax
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30 Oct 2011, 9:08 am

I have my own way of thinking and seeing things, to be forced into a schooling medium is horrible. I feel like I'm a square shape that's being pushed trough a circle. I feel like I'm in a running competition, and I'm the one not running in the same direction as everyone else while asking stupid questions like why am I running. I hate how actually learning is not the goal, its some sort of weird social game of do as you are told, which is something I am very bad at. I cant get myself to do things just because people tell me to do them. I'm also very bad at doing things that don't interest me. I hate how I cant ask thousands of questions to find real depth and meaning to what I'm studying because its not normal and I don't want to be seen as a weirdo.
I live in a world that puts great value to the social status of "being well educated".
My lack of interest for school groups me up with the lowlifes of society, stupid people, drug addicts, etc. and I don't want people to think I'm a loser. But I don't want to force myself to be like everyone else just to feel accepted by the NT society. I want to define my own happiness and find people who don't judge me for it.
I feel anxious, hopeless and sad... :(



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30 Oct 2011, 10:04 am

I feel the exact same way most of the time. What I've learned is that most teachers just DO NOT KNOW the answer. I asked my chemistry teacher why you need to use a ratio to figure out what cm2 is in nm. She told me, and I quote, "I don't know - it just is."

You know, I've heard people discribe asperger's as a pedantic disorder, but the real pedants are the teachers. You have to do things THEIR WAY or they won't give you a good grade.

This is why I will never be a straight-A student. It's also why I get answers wrong on multiple choice tests. I'll see a "technically yes" and be stuck on it for ten minutes. :I



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30 Oct 2011, 10:32 am

Hi Naxax,
I hated nearly every moment of school too. It seemed to get in the way of learning. College had moments of fun. There is a reason I homeschooled my three boys.
Now that I am older I have come to understand a few things about school. It is for a lot of us, a time of misery and wondering why we need to engage in a lot of nonsense. Actually, not all of it is nonsense. We do need to learn how to get along with people who are not like us. We do need to learn how to wait our turn. We do need to learn how to deal with tedium. We do need to learn things that people can't tell us why we need to learn them: ie the things learned are a mental foundation for doing what we must as adults. Etc. Not fun? Body building involves a lot of not fun. Piano playing involves a lot of not fun. Raising children involves a lot of not fun. Learning not to be a selfish bastard involves a lot of not fun.
Somehow we need to learn to be decent, flexible people who can do what must be done. If your parents cannot or will not be the people who teach you all that, it will have to be school. Take some cheer from this as I did while miserably plodding through school: School does not last forever.



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30 Oct 2011, 1:00 pm

lelia wrote:
Hi Naxax,
I hated nearly every moment of school too. It seemed to get in the way of learning. College had moments of fun. There is a reason I homeschooled my three boys.
Now that I am older I have come to understand a few things about school. It is for a lot of us, a time of misery and wondering why we need to engage in a lot of nonsense. Actually, not all of it is nonsense. We do need to learn how to get along with people who are not like us. We do need to learn how to wait our turn. We do need to learn how to deal with tedium. We do need to learn things that people can't tell us why we need to learn them: ie the things learned are a mental foundation for doing what we must as adults. Etc. Not fun? Body building involves a lot of not fun. Piano playing involves a lot of not fun. Raising children involves a lot of not fun. Learning not to be a selfish bastard involves a lot of not fun.
Somehow we need to learn to be decent, flexible people who can do what must be done. If your parents cannot or will not be the people who teach you all that, it will have to be school. Take some cheer from this as I did while miserably plodding through school: School does not last forever.


Exactly. School is a learning experience for those reasons. When I was in grade school (I'm in my first year of university, now), I was usually thoroughly uninterested by what was taught in school. I got in trouble for misbehaving as late as two years ago, because I was so bored that I refused to even acknowledge the lesson. I've grown up a lot since then. If you have special interests, or wish to understand the material deeper, you can learn and read on your own time. That's what I did with all of my special interests throughout my school life. I muddled through school with gritted teeth, but explored my fields of interest outside of the classroom (and if you find enthusiastic teachers, they will often read your work or discuss your ideas with you). It's not so bad if you live in moderation, and now that I'm in university, I'm reaping the rewards of all the extra work I put in. Good luck!



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30 Oct 2011, 4:04 pm

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30 Oct 2011, 5:10 pm

Yes, school was an awful time for me. Besides being picked on by most of the other kids, I had trouble with the curriculum. They went at a faster pace than I could maintain, and they used the most boring lesson plans, and taught in the most boring way possible because they wanted to turn out mindless drones. Also, a lot of what they are teaching is useless drivel that you won't need in real life once you have graduated high school. I finally figured out that teaching this unneeded drivel provides fake jobs for yet more unionistas. They need to stick to teaching basic stuff for the required courses, and some interesting elective courses for non-required study. It would help if at least some of the electives provided life skills, and some had vocational job potential, like wood shop, automotive, etc. The courses you really need are:

- Read & write English, word processing/typing, and research and note taking training, which will help in all courses. Eventually, once kids know how to read, they should take literature, because it will enhance reading ability. Also, writing of stories, and reports, as many people will have to do so in higher education, and later at work.
- Basic math, eventually followed by basic bookkeeping, such as maintaining check registers, financial math (like mortgages, credit cards, etc.)
- Basic bio and hard sciences
- American History because it is what makes us Americans, and what will keep us Americans, eventually followed by world history. (You only need to watch or read the news to see that it is important to all of us.)
- Civics, because we need to know our rights and responsibilities as citizens.
- At least one year of at least one foreign language. When people travel outside the country, they will be better able to communicate with foreigners if they have experience with more than one language. Also, I took 3 years of German, and it actually helped me with my own language, because I had to study the parts of speech and sentence structure, and ended up comparing German to my own tongue. It made me more aware of how my language is put together.
- Geography, because the societies of the world have gotten more interconnected and more interacting, so what happens far away can have an impact here.

- Students interested in more than basic levels of the above topics, whether for a possible career, or just personal interest, should be able to take more advanced courses, as they progress in these subjects, but those who are not interested should not have to take the advanced courses.

- Electives should provide training in life skills, such as the domestic science courses, and possible vocational jobs.

Unfortunately, the corrupt school system in this country just wants to turn out mindless stepford children. I WAS NOT A STEPFORD CHILD!! ! That's why I had such a hard time in school. Resist the Uber Educational Unionistas!

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01 Nov 2011, 3:36 pm

Thanks for the replies, it gives me strength to struggle knowing I'm not alone.
I just wish I could be done with school already.

Getting a job I could live with is another problem, but I will worry about that when I get there :D