Why college 'learning' is capitalistic fraud
Okay, well, first of all... unless we're still stuck centuries in the past when no cameras existed... or, *gasp* when people hadn't even invented paper to write on or even figured out that they could write on stone, I don't think there's a good excuse for requiring everyone to be in a single class and be taught by a single teacher. How resource-intensive is that? One teacher could record themselves and be seen by thousands across the world - unless, of course, educational institutions have never heard of the Internet, as they so pretend. But no, we need to make money out of being as inefficient as possible.
Now, I don't know about anyone else's experiences with this, but I think the following anecdote summarizes the arrogant stupidity that is the education system today; I told my teacher that I can, honestly, learn maths on my own without having to spend more time travelling every time than I actually spend time learning maths. Her answer? "zOMG I couldn't learn maths on my own myself, how could you?!" - and while that is simplistic, I assume that that might be what most tutors feel these days in order to justify their wages.
i absolutely hate how australia's universities have gone online. when i have an extrernal unit which requires the internet only i fail the unit. i need to be in that class room with that teacher to learn. Charles Darwin University, Darwin Northern Territory, look it up... oh wait heres the weblink Charles Darwin University
Your choice... take a look and learn how the online class rooms work. Wimba annoys the absolut eeekers out of me >.<
Wimba online classrooms, along with Learnline (Blackboard) also annoy me all our stuff is online... I DESPISE IT!!
Yes, the traditional college format is inefficient, and over priced. The correct format would use a combination of professor taught online courses, in class hands on work, also overseen by the professor, and tutoring by grad students for those who need extra help. Also, colleges require additonal courses that are not part of what you are there to study. Students are required to take these unnecessary (to you) additional courses because it is a means of adding money to the college's bank account. This is a rip off. If you choose to pass on the unnecessary (to you) courses then you can continue your studies, but as a non metriculating student, so you won't get a degree/certificate. Only students who take the cash cow courses along with the ones they need for their area of study are allowed to get a degree.
Another problem is the invisible professors. Parents and students check out colleges and find out what "great" professors will be teaching the needed courses. In actual fact, much of the time grad students or under professors are teaching the course while the prof is doing research, writing a book, on sabatical, etc. Telling people they will be taught by well known Mr. Famous, when in fact they will be taught by Jane or John Smith is fraudulent.
Yet another problem is the teaching of courses by profs and other staffers who have no real world experience in the subject. Another rip off. Courses should be taught by people who have actual experience in the subject.
And how about the emphasis on careers that are not in real demand, and/or no real income potential. Most of the Liberal Arts careers fit this description. Most people going on to college would be better off going to a vocational college to get hands on teaching and training in real work. Although you won't get rich quick in these jobs, you will do well enough in them. Besides, how rich are you going to get in a Liberal Arts type of career, when there aren't many good paying jobs in those fields available now?
Then there are the junk courses, like basket weaving, Women's Studies (Is there a Men's Studies course out there?),
TV watching courses, etc. These are things people can do on their own time. Colleges should not be wasting their--and your--money, facilities, and time on these junk courses.
Granted, privately owned colleges/universities can do what they want. However, the tax payers are paying for state colleges, and the stock holders are paying for publicly owned places. The tax payers and stock holders have a right and a duty, to get after the colleges, and straighten them out. Unfortunately, they have been neglecting this duty. Some influence could even be wielded against privately owned schools, as most if not all of them accept tuition from government grants, government loans, and scholarship programs. But again, people who have the power, and the duty, to demand accountability are asleep on the job.
The situation stinks. Unfortunately, don't hold your breathe waiting for it to change. The colleges have a lot of your money in their accounts that they use in their lobbying efforts. They are not lobbying on your behalf, but on their own.
If I were headed to college now, I would either do it online, or go to a vocational school. Avoid the Liberal Arts rip off system.
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Not everyone succeeds in an online environment.
Want to know the real problem with colleges?
Loans
Financial Aid is so easy to obtain in such quantities, schools don't have to worry as much about being affordable because people will just go get a bigger loan from the government.
@Questor
The university I work at prides itself on it's faculty teaching classes. I don't think that we have a single class on campus taught by a GA or PHD student. All our professors are required to teach.
Of course we aren't a huge research university; but that is something to look at when looking at schools. We are not the only school that is like this.
Now, I don't know about anyone else's experiences with this, but I think the following anecdote summarizes the arrogant stupidity that is the education system today; I told my teacher that I can, honestly, learn maths on my own without having to spend more time travelling every time than I actually spend time learning maths. Her answer? "zOMG I couldn't learn maths on my own myself, how could you?!" - and while that is simplistic, I assume that that might be what most tutors feel these days in order to justify their wages.
If you feel so strongly about it then why not do your course via distance learning?
Perhaps college isnt for everyone, but I'm sure a lot of people are thankful for the small college class sizes and the assistance that they can get from their college lecturers.
I'm personally doing a distance learning course, and while it is the right thing for my current circumstances, I do miss a lot of the positives of an actual college.
I don't rememeber audio very well and I learned better when I can put facts on top of facts and connect information with other information. My class lectures provide nothing other than me trying to remember what the profressor said. And forget about bringing in any other new ideas, it's only about the information on their audio slide show. I don't learn that way. I learn by being engaged, I learn by discussion being able to conjoin information. If I'm sitting in a class listening to someone talk for 2hrs to 3hrs I'm learning nothing. Absolutely nothing.
I don't rememeber audio very well and I learned better when I can put facts on top of facts and connect information with other information. My class lectures provide nothing other than me trying to remember what the profressor said. And forget about bringing in any other new ideas, it's only about the information on their audio slide show. I don't learn that way. I learn by being engaged, I learn by discussion being able to conjoin information. If I'm sitting in a class listening to someone talk for 2hrs to 3hrs I'm learning nothing. Absolutely nothing.
That's fair enough, I don't remember audio very well myself. My point still stands though I'm sure many (not all) people appreciate going to an actual college - not everyone would be able to do a course without doing it through a standard college.
There are other options such as distance learning that are an option. (assuming the course is available)
Everyone learns differently.
You have a gift to learn math on your own. I couldn't even begin to learn math on my own. I need to be guided through the process of learning.
I would say for you it would be a good idea to go to school online or something; but others need in person instruction.
I agree mostly with the original poster. Every single piece of knowledge ever known by man should be made available free online. However I also think that there should personal interaction with students available, probably from grad students, because sometimes reading out of a textbook or seeing a lecture doesn't cut it. I'm only in my 2cd year at university, but I'm already finding that the entire internet doesn't seem to have what I need. Wikipedia certainly doesn't and the rest of the internet is a patchwork of different confusing notations that probably are only vaguely connected to your interest. I'm a physics major btw. I'd like to become a professor and maybe I'll change my mind when I get a pay check, but I think it would be an easy and wonderful thing to put everything I know on the internet.
MIT's gone online for some courses.
Look up their open courseware
http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm
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Now, I don't know about anyone else's experiences with this, but I think the following anecdote summarizes the arrogant stupidity that is the education system today; I told my teacher that I can, honestly, learn maths on my own without having to spend more time travelling every time than I actually spend time learning maths. Her answer? "zOMG I couldn't learn maths on my own myself, how could you?!" - and while that is simplistic, I assume that that might be what most tutors feel these days in order to justify their wages.
Well I think she saw what you said as a threat to her job, and I agree with everything else you said about this topic. I couldn't handle staying in school long enough for a degree, and I have self-taught myself lots of things since then, so many that I think a four year university degree program could probably be shortened into independent study, testing and paper writing to test what was learned, and maybe as little in some programs as one semester total in direct contact with a teacher. There would be exceptions, such as learning to be a doctor or surgeon, but many subjects, such as English Lit, could be trimmed down significantly. AND yes, it's a business these days, apparently a lucrative one, though not for the teachers as much as it used to be.
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