What do you think about Polish language

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As you know I'm Polish
I wonder if the people especially in the west , think about the Polish language . Have any of you ever tried to teach him , or at least learn any language of the Slavic language group.

Here in Poland , the school teaches the course of Polish Language and two selected by the student of a foreign language , although when I went to school and fortunately he was obliged to learn only one foreign language , I chose English . Now the children are much worse because they have to learn two(The choice is free but in practice, the choice is limited to English and German and sometimes a Romance language like French, Italian, Spanish), but most school districts cut costs, and offers only English, German, besides these languages ​​are the most popular among students and their parents.) . I have to admit that English grammar is easier than my native Polish , a little bit of trouble caused me the damn irregular verbs , but it was not a big deal . Languages ​​like English , both Polish and English , caused me a problem because I'm dyslexic.


The lessons of my "beloved" Polish language caused me a lot of "(un)pleasure" because in addition to learning the language, read school reading, for both Polish and world writers. (Henryk Sienkiewicz, Adam Mickiewicz, Czeslaw Milosz, Julius Słowiacki , Count Aleksander Fredro, known for his comedy and obscene stories, which of course were not official reading, but we the students really liked them ) (William Shakespeare, Moliere, Miguel de Cervantes, Jules Verne (liked the guy) George Orwell (also liked him, banned under communism in Poland, but from what I heard some stubborn Polish language teachers, taught it students from illegal Polish translations commies could kick them out but some of them don't care of it., when I went to school it was already official reading). liked also Charles Dickens, Mark Twain. while I did not like Pushkin and Tolstoy's War and Peace is far too long in my opinion)

Many of my colleagues sincerely hated the Greek classics, Sophocles and Homer.

In Poland, was once a very popular American cartoon, The Simpsons.
I remember once I was on vacation at a summer camp. I spoke with colleagues about the readings on the Polish language, for the upcoming school year. A friend of mine joked that if it is written by Homer Simpson, it must be stupid and boring

I did not understand the joke, because I have not watched the Simpsons, after returning home I started to watch, but from what I remember, this cartoon is not liked by my parents

As I talk with friends, touched on the subject of other reading, as I asked my friend, króry from me was a year older, with a reading of "Oedipus the King", my friend said it was about a guy who f****d his own mother. He added, too, that those ancient Greeks are terrible perverts, pedals and motherf***ers: D

On graduation exam from the Polish language in high school.

I compare the figure of a knight, from three selected historical periods. I chose Achiles (antiquity), Knight Roland from songs of Roland (the Middle Ages) and Don Quixote (Early Modern). It was an oral examination from presentation.

The written exam was to write an essay on the Polish literary work there were also questions about other autoróws, questions were open and closed (A, B, C, D) time limit for the written part from the Polish language, but also for the examination from foreign language was, 90 minutes I had 120 minutes because of dyslexia and dysgraphia. Unfortunately, the written part from Polish language I failed, fortunately only the written part of the exam, I had to repeat next year, and I passed. I got a fairly average result from the written examination from a foreign language, or in my case the English language.

Other subjects I have gone much better.

Now our Polish Ministry of Education found that the curriculum in Polish schools, with a strong emphasis on the subjects of philology and the humanities than Natural Sciences, such as mathematics, physics, chemistry, computer science, astronomy.

Once the Minister of Education, who was a physicist by profession .

He said, Polish, English, History and Civics, who needs them?
Poland needs serious research and not idlers.

This resulted in a loud protest Polish humanists

It was to be of Polish language and wrote out about our Polish education system.

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You have a strange language. In written form, it looks like someone has got the potato letters out.

But I wrote the above written communication has never been my forte

I have not tried to learn, no. In my school, the languages offered were German, French and Spanish.
I chose German, because we lived there when my Dad was in the military. Where we live, Spanish would probably be more useful, I have only used German once since my classes and that was even years ago.

Did you use google translator? I'm sure you did. You made letter errors that popped up: "króry" instead of "który" which should end up as "which" and "autoróws" instead of "autorów" which should come out as "authors". Say "Sorry" and try better next time. And remember - google translator doesn't work well with long, Polish sentences.

Anyway. Polish is my primary language too and I agree English is much easier to learn (but apparently you haven't learn it long enough xD).

In Polish there a lot of grammar rules, every word differs depending of the time you use and the person that you are discribing (for example "wrote": infinitive "napisać", I - as a girl -"napisałam", I - as a boy - "napisałem", a girl "napisała", a boy "napisał", a child "napisało", we "napisaliśmy", they "napisali"). It's just crazy. Plus the orthography. We have some letters that sound the same - "rz"="ż", "u"="ó" are the hardest to recognise, you just have to remember which you use in which word and if you happen to have never seen the word written before you are doomed because there is a huge chance you are going to write it wrong. Also - it is hard to speak Polish. The whole language sounds like "shsh shshsh" (to compare English is more like "bleh blehbleh")... xD

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Shame on you, you expose me
Yes, used Google translate, i know English, but prefer to write in Polish and translate into English.

I exposed you but as you can see before my message Tequila also pointed out your weird way of speech. Remember it for the future. Being lazy doesn't pay. It just pisses other people off and makes your message hard to understand.

I know that:-)
I'm dyslectic even my "promotor" MA supervisor, rejected two times chapter, of my MA thesis:-)
I have a problem when I write in Polish, I also have a problem when I write in English.

This is especially true when I write long texts.

I love languages!
You asked about slavic languages in general and a curiosity: when foreigners hear portuguese they think it sounds like russian! I think this is very interesting.
polish is considered a very difficult language to learn. Of course this depends, for instance not so hard if you speak czech. But in the west in general people think it is very hard.
I like the writing system but not much how it sounds. I plan to visit Poland soon because of the World Youth Day. When it was here in Rio last year my friend was the host for a group of polish and they got very close. He said they were very nice. It seems like we have things in common (besides catholic heritage, that is)

No one ever knows how to pronounce Polish-American surnames, not even Polish-Americans.

Speaking about Polish-Americans i read interesting article in one of our Polish history journal,
http://ien.pl/index.php/archives/1110

6 Poles sailed to America at the invitation of kingdoms of England, and they were not ordinary immigrants but specialists. Manufacturers of glass, tar, glass. They had to expand the industry, the newly discovered British Colonies in North America, in Virginia today, in time to America were coming at once more Polish specialists, but also in other European countries such as Germany. Unfortunately, some of them were not treated equally. While the introduction of elective local government in the colony of Poles were denied the right to vote because they were not Protestants, but Catholics.

So Polish glaziers went on strike, it was the first strike in the history of America!
And that glass production was an important component of the economy Virginia colony, the Poles were given the right to vote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1619_James ... men_strike

Haha. Yes. Polish people are well known for strikes. Our history is full of uprisings and revolts. We are constantly unhappy with what we got and we fight to make it better. For our freedom! But in the end, once you leave us alone our economy gets somehow weak... We are apparently a nation of fighters and revolutionists. Not busy bees.

I am unhappy with the tendency because if the generation of my grand-grandpa didn't fight for Polands independence the area I live now would be part of Germany and I would speak German since the day I was born. I believe I could have a better life this way. The German economy is currently much better than the Polish one.

About surnames - I got a surname that noone can pronounce correctly, even Polish people (well, I can but once someone tries to write it down they always spell it wrong). And it doesn't sound Polish at all. It comes from a Polish word but the word is not used since a few hundreds of years already so noone has a clue what it means - except me (since I was digging for it) and some history explorers. It translates as a huge double waterbag used long time ago to transport water in times when there was very little amount of wells and people had to bring the water home from far away. Apparently one of my ancestors was crafting those.

Did I? I was saying that the language of Polish looks weird and it looks like someone has got the potato letters out. (A Polish friend of mine pretty much said the first part to me.)

Czech is the same.

shame on you and you're calling yourself Pole?

Poland may not be the richest country, we are at the forefront in the statistics, or if we read them backwards , at least when it comes to our place in the FIFA rankings but it is your own. Our grandfathers suffered greatly to Poland was a free and independent country

Our nation has a proud tradition in the killing of German, Russian and Austrian, invaders which we Poles are very proud

Always fighting "For our freedom and yours"unfortunately we success only with last part

Poles fought in the American War of Independence, took an active part in the French Revolution, the Napoleonic Wars, American Civil War, on both sides of the conflict, even though the vast majority of Poles fought on the side Unionist. Poles fought on all fronts of World War I, and after regaining our independence in 1918, the Poles stopped the Bolshevik horde, who planned conquest of Europe in the 1920s.

The Polish nation has incorporated also bravely on the side of the Allies in World War II. Polish fighter pilots who, after losing the September Campaign in 1939 escaped through Hungary, Romania and the Middle East were able to reach the United Kingdom. This Polish RAF squadrons had the biggest enemy shutdown factor among all RAF squadrons during the Battle of Britain.

We are also very tolerant people, unless you are not German, an Austrian, Russian, and you are not Black, a gypsy, a Turk, or you are not Orthodox Christian, Protestant, Jewish, or Muslim. You can have a peaceful and wonderful life

This, of course Sarkasm, please do not take it seriously

Didn't you ("You have a strange language. In written form, it looks like someone has got the potato letters out.")?
Well... I thought, that by using "potato letters" thing you mean the way pawels message sounds. Since the "potatoes" seem like a decent comparison to what google did with it.



I am not calling myself a Pole. I am over it. If I wasn't born in Poland I would be born somewhere else so what difference it makes? Poland and Germany is as Śląsk and Małopolska to me. Other territories and languages but thats it. I am sick of history lessons and I don't understand the whole nationality thing. "We are one because we were born in the same country". Well, I don't feel like being one with everyone speaking the same language as me. In fact there isn't many Polish speaking people which I can stand.

I'm sorry if I offended you, remember that "wszyscy Polacy to jedna rodzina - all Poles are one family"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rTk6vurQWc&feature=kp[/youtube]

"No matter where you were born - a Polishness is in the blood "
I am proud of my Polish identity , although our nation has repeatedly getting kicked in the ass, completely without reason, and Polish patriots were persecuted and killed. Have you ever heard of Captain Witold Pilecki , it was a soldier of the Home Army, reported a German extermination camp in Auschwitz , voluntarily gave in to the Gestapo arrested him to organize the cell resistance movement in Auschwitz to organize a rebellion of prisoners. It did not work. He escaped from Auschwitz together a group of prisoners ( mostly Jews ) who were to be gassed . After the war commies arrested him for treason and collaboration with the imperialist intelligence , MI6 and the OSS ( which later changed its name to the CIA : D)
Most of the charges were fabricated .
After a show trial he was sentenced to degradation , loss of civil rights and the death penalty . The sentence was carried old Soviet method , shot in the backs of their heads , also known as the Katyn shot . For many years it was not known where the body of Captain Pilecki was buried .

Now this disgraceful sentence was canceled. And Mr. Captain, is considered as Polish national hero.