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16 Mar 2016, 9:07 am

Yesterday, I said a immature comment in class in IVDU Upper School (part of Yachad) in Brooklyn, NY. A kid in my class, X (who has anger problems), threatened to punch me because of this. He was an inch away from me and said to me "watch it!" and "i'm warning you!" and gave my desk a little shove. It's none of his business what I do and say. This is not the first time. Around a week ago, he made it his business when I was eavesdropping on my principal and a new mother coming in for an interview for his son for next year and tried pulling me away (which is a teacher's job to do only) and X also threatened me that he's going to shove me if I eavesdrop in the office again. I've had enough of X that I took my empty glass Snapple bottle from my lunch and threw it at him. It hit him but it, surprisingly, bounced off. My principal, Y, suspended me for 2 days of school because of this. I keep trying to tell X that I have Aspergers Syndrome but he doesn't want to here of it and talks over me. A few months ago, someone from another class, Z, said out loud that he wants to watch barney and X tried punching him for that. This is ridiculous! X gets mad at people when he thinks that someone is too immature for his standards and makes it his business to improve them. How do I make X stop?


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16 Mar 2016, 9:13 am

Under similar circumstances, and with a different bully, this is what I did:

Reported him.
Ignored him.
Met violence with violence when he so much as touched me again.
Claimed self-defense.

I'm not saying that this is what you should do, only that it worked for me.


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21 Mar 2016, 9:39 am

Fnord wrote:
Under similar circumstances, and with a different bully, this is what I did:

Reported him.
Ignored him.
Met violence with violence when he so much as touched me again.
Claimed self-defense.

I'm not saying that this is what you should do, only that it worked for me.


This thread had more information than in your other one. Okay, what Fnord is saying here would probably work. But I would watch it with the Snapple bottle stuff. You also have to be careful with threats. Whenever you do that, you risk having other people overhear YOUR end but not the OTHER guy's end. So it could look like you are the only aggressor.

I think it's best to look unconcerned, perhaps even puzzled. When the other person is being upset at you, you can make an exaggerated face:

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and ask, "What's your problem?" or "What's wrong with you?". This kind of thing will get on the guy's nerves, but won't get you into trouble.



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21 Mar 2016, 10:01 am

I have cut and pasted these comments so as to demonstrate one of the issues of this post, which is your behaviour.

EphraimB wrote:
I said a immature comment in class ...I was eavesdropping on my principal and a new mother coming in for an interview for his son for next year ... I took my empty glass Snapple bottle from my lunch and threw it at him ...


EphraimB wrote:
X...threatened to punch me because of this ...tried pulling me away...he's going to shove me if I eavesdrop in the office again...


Okay, so both of you are behaving badly.

I know this is going to sound messed up, but I think X's motives are good; the problem is with his method. Eavesdropping is a huge societal no-no. Stop doing it. And if you can't avoid overhearing to do proximity, distract yourself so as to appear not to hear or be interested. People get really pissed off when you eavesdrop and I think this may be X's misguided way of trying to tell you this.

He likely sees himself (X) as some sort of moral coach. I would take his advice regarding saying immature things in class and eavesdropping. He might have thought the other kid, was showing weakness by liking Barney, who knows. Just give X some space. And for God sake, don't throw things at people. Autism is not an excuse to behave poorly.



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21 Mar 2016, 1:47 pm

I'd have to agree with Androbot on this one.

Why are you doing these things to annoy people?

It's not a good path to follow--especially the eavesdropping part.

The good thing: at least you're honest.



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25 Mar 2016, 3:57 pm

It makes me sad that there are people past elementary school who are that immature in this world. The best thing to do here is to just ignore him. He's looking for attention. I also wouldn't tell him about your Aspergers, because then he has something to hold over your head, and predatory personalities like X usually target people who are different.



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05 May 2016, 6:20 pm

First off, eavesdropping and throwing the bottle at him aren't okay. I get if it's a bit tempting to eavesdrop, but it's really not a good idea as it's strongly frowned upon by most people, especially neurotypicals. For the Snapple bottle, you shouldn't have brought violence into it, especially not using a glass object to attack a kid with anger issues.

As for how to deal with X, talk to someone who would understand and can help, whether or not it's a teacher or a principal. Maybe explain your side of the story to the principal as well.

Finally, I wouldn't tell X about your Aspergers as he probably won't understand it and he might bother you more if he knows you have it.



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12 Jun 2016, 8:22 pm

androbot01 wrote:
I have cut and pasted these comments so as to demonstrate one of the issues of this post, which is your behaviour.

EphraimB wrote:
I said a immature comment in class ...I was eavesdropping on my principal and a new mother coming in for an interview for his son for next year ... I took my empty glass Snapple bottle from my lunch and threw it at him ...


EphraimB wrote:
X...threatened to punch me because of this ...tried pulling me away...he's going to shove me if I eavesdrop in the office again...


Okay, so both of you are behaving badly.

I know this is going to sound messed up, but I think X's motives are good; the problem is with his method. Eavesdropping is a huge societal no-no. Stop doing it. And if you can't avoid overhearing to do proximity, distract yourself so as to appear not to hear or be interested. People get really pissed off when you eavesdrop and I think this may be X's misguided way of trying to tell you this.

He likely sees himself (X) as some sort of moral coach. I would take his advice regarding saying immature things in class and eavesdropping. He might have thought the other kid, was showing weakness by liking Barney, who knows. Just give X some space. And for God sake, don't throw things at people. Autism is not an excuse to behave poorly.


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