Justifying my desire to go to uni.

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04 Jun 2019, 2:20 am

I lost a draft of this just now :cry: .
I have talked about my desire to goto " uni " - mean in " full-fledged, traditiona, sleep-away " college - as opposed to night school, community college, etcetera, which I will call " CC ". I didn"t get to go to uni :( . My Sig quotes what my mother said to me back then :( Briefly, I did go to CC so.e - it was a disaster - And it was never followed by me going to uni - Did I not " deserve " it, in my mother's definition :cry: ? I never got into uni, or even any real continuation of pre-uni CC :cry: - and J tried some in subsequent years and the applications/records people f****d me over :cry:.


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" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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05 Jun 2019, 7:32 am

...At least partially, it seems that " sensible " people here d
Say that I should shut myself in a board-and-card/whatever for the rest of my life. never going out - Or, at best, claim that if I somehow give my life over to institutionalization,that the lovely institution people will fix everything for me if I'm just patient. that a wonderful life will fall into place for me if I just give myself over to an institution.
I don't think that's very likely. I think an institution would be likely to shut me sway, take away myindelendence;have it so that my ability to function withers, suck sway my money, perhaps eventually , for my own good " force medication on me and commit me/take away my money... :( ..


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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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05 Jun 2019, 9:54 am

I'd rather you get one of those apartments for medically fragile people where there's care nearby when you need it...but you can go out when you want, and invite people over when you want.



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05 Jun 2019, 10:00 am

I've looked into that kind of set up for myself and as far as I know they are a lot more expensive in comparison. I haven't come across any care house that doesn't let residents come and go, unless someone is a flight risk meaning wandering off and getting lost.



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05 Jun 2019, 11:02 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I'd rather you get one of those apartments for medically fragile people where there's care nearby when you need it...but you can go out when you want, and invite people over when you want.







...Yes. that could be nice. SF is just so stuffed with HL that..
I have thought that maybe I should go somewhere else, but where? Especially with being handicapped and not driving.
Regarding the poster below that . I haven't heard of such , nice " care houses :( - You were rather pushing a Patterson situation on me, more or less saying it was the best I could expect! 8O :cry:


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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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05 Jun 2019, 11:05 am

There isn’t any hurt in trying these situations is there? It doesn’t have to be permanent. If he doesn’t like it, he can leave. He needs to be in a care/group home.

Perhaps if he had a case worker, they could start a list and try out each one to see how it goes.

With your health problems, ASS-P, you really need to take care of yourself, especially as you start to get older. Young people can get away without a lot more wear and tear. You don’t want to let your health get any more out of hand than it is or there could be no return from that downward spiral.

I’m just trying to voice the seriousness of your situation. You can’t continue as you have been indefinitely without seriously shortening your life span.

University should not be a priority right now. Getting your health (including your weight) stabilized needs to be #1. Nothing is stopping you from an education right now. My brother has never been to college, but he’s smarter and knows more than most people I know with university degrees.



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05 Jun 2019, 11:09 am

Regarding the person above, I'm saying it's about the best I am expecting for myself. And for me personally a considerably better option than life out on the street.



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05 Jun 2019, 11:20 am

ASS-P wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I'd rather you get one of those apartments for medically fragile people where there's care nearby when you need it...but you can go out when you want, and invite people over when you want.






...Yes. that could be nice. SF is just so stuffed with HL that..
I have thought that maybe I should go somewhere else, but where? Especially with being handicapped and not driving.
Regarding the poster below that . I haven't heard of such , nice " care houses :( - You were rather pushing a Patterson situation on me, more or less saying it was the best I could expect! 8O :cry:


A Patterson situation is far superior to your current situation. Anything is a step above that.

Then, once you’re stable, you can look for something better (but don’t leave until you can move directly into the new place!).

Improvement is usually a gradual process. Most of us don’t go from a lousy situation to a great one all in one step.



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05 Jun 2019, 11:39 am

:arrow: q

Twilightprincess wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I'd rather you get one of those apartments for medically fragile people where there's care nearby when you need it...but you can go out when you want, and invite people over when you want.






...Yes. that could be nice. SF is just so stuffed with HL that..
I have thought that maybe I should go somewhere else, but where? Especially with being handicapped and not driving.
Regarding the poster below that . I haven't heard of such , nice " care houses :( - You were rather pushing a Patterson situation on me, more or less saying it was the best I could expect! 8O :cry:


A Patterson situation is far superior to your current situation. Anything is a step above that.

Then, once you’re stable, you can look for something better (but don’t leave until you can move directly into the new place!).

Improvement is usually a gradual process. Most of us don’t go from a lousy situation to a great one all in one step.






...Thr trouble is, in my position, something such as what there was in Patterson would maybe not be something I could easily take a forward step from, but a tra ' especially considering. for two. " Daniel "'s apparent dedication to trying to Hoover away all my possessions and their lying to me about public transportation not existing in Patterson!


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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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05 Jun 2019, 4:15 pm

ASS-P wrote:
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Twilightprincess wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I'd rather you get one of those apartments for medically fragile people where there's care nearby when you need it...but you can go out when you want, and invite people over when you want.






...Yes. that could be nice. SF is just so stuffed with HL that..
I have thought that maybe I should go somewhere else, but where? Especially with being handicapped and not driving.
Regarding the poster below that . I haven't heard of such , nice " care houses :( - You were rather pushing a Patterson situation on me, more or less saying it was the best I could expect! 8O :cry:


A Patterson situation is far superior to your current situation. Anything is a step above that.

Then, once you’re stable, you can look for something better (but don’t leave until you can move directly into the new place!).

Improvement is usually a gradual process. Most of us don’t go from a lousy situation to a great one all in one step.






...Thr trouble is, in my position, something such as what there was in Patterson would maybe not be something I could easily take a forward step from, but a tra ' especially considering. for two. " Daniel "'s apparent dedication to trying to Hoover away all my possessions and their lying to me about public transportation not existing in Patterson!


Almost anything is better than being homeless.



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05 Jun 2019, 5:12 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
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Twilightprincess wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I'd rather you get one of those apartments for medically fragile people where there's care nearby when you need it...but you can go out when you want, and invite people over when you want.






...Yes. that could be nice. SF is just so stuffed with HL that..
I have thought that maybe I should go somewhere else, but where? Especially with being handicapped and not driving.
Regarding the poster below that . I haven't heard of such , nice " care houses :( - You were rather pushing a Patterson situation on me, more or less saying it was the best I could expect! 8O :cry:


A Patterson situation is far superior to your current situation. Anything is a step above that.

Then, once you’re stable, you can look for something better (but don’t leave until you can move directly into the new place!).

Improvement is usually a gradual process. Most of us don’t go from a lousy situation to a great one all in one step.






...Thr trouble is, in my position, something such as what there was in Patterson would maybe not be something I could easily take a forward step from, but a tra ' especially considering. for two. " Daniel "'s apparent dedication to trying to Hoover away all my possessions and their lying to me about public transportation not existing in Patterson!


Almost anything is better than being homeless.









...Like when I turned 21 in a state mental hospital, stuffed fill of Thorazine, etal :cry:, with a doctor saying about me " He"s not good for anything else but being on a back ward the rest of his life! " :cry: ? That wonderful slternative :cry: ? :evil:


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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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05 Jun 2019, 7:18 pm

ASS-P wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
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Twilightprincess wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I'd rather you get one of those apartments for medically fragile people where there's care nearby when you need it...but you can go out when you want, and invite people over when you want.




...Yes. that could be nice. SF is just so stuffed with HL that..
I have thought that maybe I should go somewhere else, but where? Especially with being handicapped and not driving.
Regarding the poster below that . I haven't heard of such , nice " care houses :( - You were rather pushing a Patterson situation on me, more or less saying it was the best I could expect! 8O :cry:


A Patterson situation is far superior to your current situation. Anything is a step above that.

Then, once you’re stable, you can look for something better (but don’t leave until you can move directly into the new place!).

Improvement is usually a gradual process. Most of us don’t go from a lousy situation to a great one all in one step.






...Thr trouble is, in my position, something such as what there was in Patterson would maybe not be something I could easily take a forward step from, but a tra ' especially considering. for two. " Daniel "'s apparent dedication to trying to Hoover away all my possessions and their lying to me about public transportation not existing in Patterson!


Almost anything is better than being homeless.









...Like when I turned 21 in a state mental hospital, stuffed fill of Thorazine, etal :cry:, with a doctor saying about me " He"s not good for anything else but being on a back ward the rest of his life! " :cry: ? That wonderful slternative :cry: ? :evil:


I don’t think that’s very likely, especially if you cooperate with your treatment team. The mental health field has improved by leaps and bounds since then.

I’ve been in a psych ward. It wasn’t an awful experience. The doctors certainly weren’t endeavoring to overmedicate me, and there was social service workers on the premises to help people get services that they needed upon release including housing.



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05 Jun 2019, 7:34 pm

I should have been with you when you were 21. I would have told you not to listen to those schmuck doctors!



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05 Jun 2019, 8:04 pm

A residential care home is not the same as a hospital. Especially not a psyche ward. There is no doctor on staff. Far as I know the staff that is there are not allowed to prescribe medication or treatment. At a residential care home one is a resident, not a patient. An independent person is free to vacate at any time. Apparently they will even load up your stuff, move you a hundred miles away and drop you off on the street. Although apparently not at a bargain rate.



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EzraS wrote:
A residential care home is not the same as a hospital. Especially not a psyche ward. There is no doctor on staff. Far as I know the staff that is there are not allowed to prescribe medication or treatment. At a residential care home one is a resident, not a patient. An independent person is free to vacate at any time. Apparently they will even load up your stuff, move you a hundred miles away and drop you off on the street. Although apparently not at a bargain rate.


I think he’s afraid that they will have him committed or something. Places don’t like involuntarily having people committed to psych units because they fear lawsuits.

Just avoid having huge temper tantrums, breaking stuff, or threatening to hurt yourself or others. - Sound advice for us all.



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Twilightprincess wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
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Twilightprincess wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I'd rather you get one of those apartments for medically fragile people where there's care nearby when you need it...but you can go out when you want, and invite people over when you want.




...Yes. that could be nice. SF is just so stuffed with HL that..
I have thought that maybe I should go somewhere else, but where? Especially with being handicapped and not driving.
Regarding the poster below that . I haven't heard of such , nice " care houses :( - You were rather pushing a Patterson situation on me, more or less saying it was the best I could expect! 8O :cry:


A Patterson situation is far superior to your current situation. Anything is a step above that.

Then, once you’re stable, you can look for something better (but don’t leave until you can move directly into the new place!).

Improvement is usually a gradual process. Most of us don’t go from a lousy situation to a great one all in one step.






...Thr trouble is, in my position, something such as what there was in Patterson would maybe not be something I could easily take a forward step from, but a tra ' especially considering. for two. " Daniel "'s apparent dedication to trying to Hoover away all my possessions and their lying to me about public transportation not existing in Patterson!


Almost anything is better than being homeless.









...Like when I turned 21 in a state mental hospital, stuffed fill of Thorazine, etal :cry:, with a doctor saying about me " He"s not good for anything else but being on a back ward the rest of his life! " :cry: ? That wonderful slternative :cry: ? :evil:


I don’t think that’s very likely, especially if you cooperate with your treatment team. The mental health field has improved by leaps and bounds since then.

I’ve been in a psych ward. It wasn’t an awful experience. The doctors certainly weren’t endeavoring to overmedicate me, and there was social service workers on the premises to help people get services that they needed q :arrow: :arrow: upon release including housing.








...The Psychiatric-Industrial Complex has never apologized to me for what they did to me. They have never sought me out to say We were wrong ". :cry:. They have never offered me a new miracle drug to fix at least SOME OF THE DAMAGE THEIR LAST MIRACLE DRUG DID TO ME!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! ! :evil:


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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!