I hate university/a warning to aspies thinking about it

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countzarroff
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16 Dec 2008, 3:39 am

My honest view on college is mixed. I'll start off by saying it beats the crap out of High School. In school I had about five people that were my true friends, college, I have more than I know what to do with. I am currently studying animation and It's going fine. I hope to find some kind of work for it when I get out of school, but like any career, who knows what will happen.

The downsides of college is that women are still attracted to the whole stupid bad-boy persona so that makes it difficult for aspie guys to find relationships. The school itself will also take your money at every chance in gets. Many of the professors care deeply about their students but there are some that don't at all and they will really piss you off.

That's my view on college



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23 Dec 2008, 11:45 am

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-socially, it's all a bunch of spoiled drunk kids and stuck up people. You are going to have to hang with the nerds or religious kids if you want friends (even they might not accept you)...


Some of the drinking that I witnessed bordered on the pathological. Clubs and Bars were offering discounts on spirits for students. The students drank themselves to oblivion. I remember being frightened at some of the violence I witnessed, one girl was trying to kick a bouncer whilst swearing. Her male companion joined in. It wasn't a pretty sight. There was vomit in the Colleges and in the streets. The locals were quite rightly up in arms about it all. I didn't feel safe, not even in College. Every Friday and Saturday night, someone would be beaten up or assaulted by someone. At one point I was frightened to go out almost to the point of paralysis.

Looking back on it, I don't think that this binge drinking culture was healthy for anyone concerned. The noise and the toxic atmosphere distracted me from my work and everyone elses brains got addled.

It was the most painful thing to see some of my Colleagues be physically ill. I was very worried about them and was concerned about their welbeing. I hate to think what damage they were doing to themselves. It depressed me to watch them and made me regret being there.

To be quite brutally honest, I don't think that the situation where I was was sustainable. I got very bad vibes from it all. There was a horrid binge drinking culture. That's why I had to leave. I think I made the right decision in hindsight.

Don't get me wrong, I think that people having a civilised drink and party is okay. It's this pathological partying and drinking so much that it puts people in danger that I can't understand.



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23 Dec 2008, 1:05 pm

I hated college in general, but to say it's not worth it is silly.

If you are doing the right thing, your life can benefit greatly from it. Without a degree I'd probably be working in retail somewhere miserably. Instead I'm earning 3x as much doing engineering work.


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23 Dec 2008, 3:40 pm

Social studies, except for (maybe!) economics, are all considered casino subjects. If you fear gambling your grades, and know the odds of finding the job you like lies on your grades, even in part, then take the least casino of your choices.

If you mean, by town planning, urbanism, then... I don't have a bloody clue.


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24 Dec 2008, 1:49 pm

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Social studies, except for (maybe!) economics, are all considered casino subjects. If you fear gambling your grades, and know the odds of finding the job you like lies on your grades, even in part, then take the least casino of your choices.

If you mean, by town planning, urbanism, then... I don't have a bloody clue.


That's nonsense. Maybe I'm biased, as a History major, but if you can write well, think critically, and are willing to devote time to your work, there's no reason why you can't do well as a social science major, or even a humanities major. There are certain skill sets which are good for those kinds of majors, just like there are particular talents needed for science majors. It all comes down to what you're good at. This thread seems to assume that all aspies are math-science oriented, and that's just not true. I did not earn almost straight As taking mostly History and English classes because I just got "lucky."



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25 Dec 2008, 1:00 pm

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I hated college in general, but to say it's not worth it is silly.

If you are doing the right thing, your life can benefit greatly from it. Without a degree I'd probably be working in retail somewhere miserably. Instead I'm earning 3x as much doing engineering work.

It's not worth it MOST of the time. I wish I had gone into petroleum engineering. I am s**t at math and chemistry though. So for ME, I wish I had done something else with the 4 years and the money I put into it.



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25 Dec 2008, 1:09 pm

srriv345 wrote:
A350XWB wrote:
Social studies, except for (maybe!) economics, are all considered casino subjects. If you fear gambling your grades, and know the odds of finding the job you like lies on your grades, even in part, then take the least casino of your choices.

If you mean, by town planning, urbanization, then... I don't have a bloody clue.


That's nonsense. Maybe I'm biased, as a History major, but if you can write well, think critically, and are willing to devote time to your work, there's no reason why you can't do well as a social science major, or even a humanities major. There are certain skill sets which are good for those kinds of majors, just like there are particular talents needed for science majors. It all comes down to what you're good at. This thread seems to assume that all aspies are math-science oriented, and that's just not true. I did not earn almost straight As taking mostly History and English classes because I just got "lucky."


Agreed since I'm a Social Science (GEOG, HIST, GOVT and ECON) for Education Major here and I have decent writing style. I do not complain about Mason because I love it for many reasons. One reason is I made a lot of new friends and new exposures for me to explore. So college is not bad as it seems for some people.


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25 Dec 2008, 7:34 pm

countzarroff wrote:
My honest view on college is mixed. I'll start off by saying it beats the crap out of High School. In school I had about five people that were my true friends, college, I have more than I know what to do with. I am currently studying animation and It's going fine. I hope to find some kind of work for it when I get out of school, but like any career, who knows what will happen.

I haven't managed to make any friends in college yet, and I just got done with my first term of sophomore year. Maybe your school isn't so full of archetypal so-cal yuppie transplant types like mine?

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The downsides of college is that women are still attracted to the whole stupid bad-boy persona so that makes it difficult for aspie guys to find relationships. The school itself will also take your money at every chance in gets. Many of the professors care deeply about their students but there are some that don't at all and they will really piss you off.

I don't know if I'd say they're attracted the whole bad-boy persona... (there really aren't those at my school, just the yuppies i described above), but they definitely aren't attracted to intelligence. I can say that much...
Oh yeah, college LOVES to nickel-dime you at every turn. Seriously, I've taken classes where you have to PAY to be able to do the homework (it was some stupid online thing). Not only that, but my university raised tuition rates by 3% this year. Well, I guess they gotta keep paying the football coach millions.Then the dean gets 3/4 of a million for sitting on his ass.
Most of the classes I've had so far have been gigantic lecture classes, so it really isn't feasible for the professor to care a lot about everyone. Though, in the smallest class I had (10 people), my CS class, the teacher was just a horrible person. He didn't give a crap how well we did.



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25 Dec 2008, 9:50 pm

Hi Space. Can you please put on a shirt? Thanks.


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25 Dec 2008, 10:06 pm

that's not me in my av.

Yeah, in most classes you are just a number. It's only been in a few summer classes and 4th year seminar classes where the prof's actually know your name, because there's usually 12 students or less.



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26 Dec 2008, 8:01 am

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that's not me in my av.

Yeah, in most classes you are just a number. It's only been in a few summer classes and 4th year seminar classes where the prof's actually know your name, because there's usually 12 students or less.


Actually in a GEOG Class the Professor knew all our names and the same with my Introduction to International Politics as well. Its usually the 300 people class that you are a number but even then the professor could know your name as well. So being a number is not fully true in a majority of classes for me.


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06 Jan 2009, 5:27 am

I love being at university.
Some things were hard... like having to sit with complete strangers during fresher's week and talk to them and stuff, but it was ok. I just had to remember that however they seemed, all these scary outgoing people were alone and friendless at university too.
I love my course. It is absolutely fascinating and I don't want it to finish. Although not every single bit is wonderful, enough of it is to make doing the other bits seem worth it.
Also I've made some amazing friends. I actually live in a house with people and they are wonderful. I have actually survived going to clubs once or twice because I've known they are there if things get too much. I never thought I would manage that. I never thought I would get a boyfriend either. It's just incredible how much I've learnt and not all of it academic.



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09 Jan 2009, 3:55 am

I love college.

I've got a great group of friends, who are all mostly computer geeks and nerds. I hang out with a few science majors and a few nursing students. but my group of friends are the greatest. I'm in a bible study. I have my own radio show. I work for the Tech desk (another fancy term for the people who make sure the school network doesn't die because of squirrels.......don't ask.......or porcupines/hedgehogs.......again.....don't ask)

I go to a conservative christian college, dry campus, but the town has a bar and at least a few other establishments taht serve alcohol. It's a really great place to be at. I love it.

I'm a junior in the Writing Lit program. Not the easiest program, but I've always loved books, and so I'm treating myself this semester by taking a course on Shakespeare.


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13 Jan 2009, 2:32 am

I'm still in high school (a year or two to go). I'm going to go inot veternary medicine and avoid dorms, parties and other students outside of class at all costs.


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16 Jan 2009, 12:02 am

JerryHatake wrote:
Space wrote:
that's not me in my av.

Yeah, in most classes you are just a number. It's only been in a few summer classes and 4th year seminar classes where the prof's actually know your name, because there's usually 12 students or less.


Actually in a GEOG Class the Professor knew all our names and the same with my Introduction to International Politics as well. Its usually the 300 people class that you are a number but even then the professor could know your name as well. So being a number is not fully true in a majority of classes for me.

In pretty much all universities the students are there to fund the lecturers research first and foremost - really they don't give a damn about the pupils for the large part. My uni were especially callous in the statement they put out about a dead student this week.



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16 Jan 2009, 12:41 am

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I am in my 4th year of university. I hate it. Here's my advice for people with AS considering university....
-if you want a job, go into engineering or medicine
-don't go into law or business (except accounting).... they are very AS unfriendly. Trust me.
-anything else, go into it because you like what you study, and don't care what job you get out of it (or if you get one)
-universities are full of BS politics and policies that are unstated, but control who gets into what grad programs/colleges and who gets good marks in social sciences
-socially, it's all a bunch of spoiled drunk kids and stuck up people. You are going to have to hang with the nerds or religious kids if you want friends (even they might not accept you)... .

Lastly, university is interesting. You can learn a lot... but I want a job now. I have no friends or future at university, and I am going to go into a trade and hopefully make gobs of money. I should've done this instead of getting a degree.


well i agree and disagree with you here. i agree because university is not for everyone. because as people are genuinely kind people they would not make good lawyers bc they have to defend bad and stupid people . mosalso not everyone finds a job right away after college

i disagree bc not all nerds and religous people are like that. those who are do not realize only the creator can judge or that no one is the smartest person on the planet most of my friends are nerds and we are very accepting people but i have seen a few bad apples who just cause drama by their own arrogance and pride(That is not a nerd that is an a-hole)

i wish u luck in wherever u take ur studies