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legendoftheselkie
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10 Aug 2008, 11:39 pm

Funny how those who say ''let the kids decide for themselves when they grow up'', are the ones who scream and howl when their kids decide for themselves...to be religious!



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11 Aug 2008, 7:41 pm

I did all of it, church, sunday school and confirmation, all to keep my mum happy. I hated all of it and felt a fraud as I never really believed. Especially after finding out Santa wasn't real around three. Just accept that your kids may not choose your views as adults, and to make sure you still show you love them and accept their decision no matter what it is.


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12 Aug 2008, 11:34 am

Kacy wrote:
Thanks to all of you for your replies, especially those who were able to discern what I was truly asking for advice on. Interestingly (although I am not disappointed by any means), I posted this on the kids thread because I really wanted to hear from some kids who may or may not be in the same situation. I could be wrong, but I think most of the replies came from adults! As I said, it is still great input either way and I appreciate your time. A special thanks to Justthatdirl11 and gbollard.

I did not intend on igniting any fires. I am new here, and the last thing I want to do is already wear out my welcome.

Kacy


Kacy, I'll ask my son what he thinks and get back to you.

For me, growing up this way wasn't too much or an inconvenience. It didn't bother me at all. I didn't like wearing tights so much and I've never been a fan of dresses, but that's ok. I've grown accustomed to it and now I wear those slips that are like loose pants. Anyway, your son likely won't have that issue. :)

We dress Max as comfortably as we can. He picks out his dress clothes and dress shoes. I just had to buy him new dress socks, actually, because my in-laws bought him cheap polyester socks that he hates. He prefers cotton. He also prefers cotton for his pants/shirts, although he does have 1 suit that is slippery fabric and he will wear that every single day if he could.

It's all his choice. We do require dress clothes, but he picks which ones to wear.


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14 Aug 2008, 12:57 am

soljaboi51 wrote:
Any parent who wants to give their kid a religious education is ignorant. Maybe you're kid doesnt give a sh** about religion, let him choose want he wants. I am agnostic as well as my family and we dont waste our time believing that religious BS.


I think you may be right. I'm an 11 year old athiest and I don't believe all the stuff they say at church. That's why I decided to become athiest.



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20 Aug 2008, 1:15 pm

Well, I don't know. Take it slowly with him. My own experience led to atheism due to boredom and failure to get anything out of the experiences.

I used to go to sunday school when I was too young to stay home alone and my mom worked at a church in DC...so I went there. It was fun for a while when I was younger, but then we started getting into bible readings later and eventually that was all we ever did: frankly, it was boring. Thinking of it now makes me almost able to feel the foam that accumulated in my mouth every time I read a passage...



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20 Aug 2008, 6:24 pm

Cult_of_SSBB wrote:
soljaboi51 wrote:
Any parent who wants to give their kid a religious education is ignorant. Maybe you're kid doesnt give a sh** about religion, let him choose want he wants. I am agnostic as well as my family and we dont waste our time believing that religious BS.


I think you may be right. I'm an 11 year old athiest and I don't believe all the stuff they say at church. That's why I decided to become athiest.


If you're parents make you go to church tell them to f**k off cuz the constitution guarantees freedom of religion. Unless you're mormom cuz those parents make their kids go to church



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20 Aug 2008, 6:33 pm

i was brought up by an atheist mum, then start to go to church on my own, and now i am a muslim. I needed to have more structure in my life, as with my mum i wwas allowed to do whatever i wanted to do.

Katy, i am home educating my children, because even if they are NT, i really dont want them to go through hard time like i did at school (bullying, not belonging, not understanding what i am supposed to do/say, frienship...)

So in your case i would home school the religious part. And i think you are the best person to understand your child, you can go at his own pace, and you know how to talk to him etc...

Anyway, he is 6, and i think he can start to make small decision. maybe send him to church school for a month as a trial, to see if he likes it. but tell him, that he is a choice between going to church school, or studying it at home/library... not studying his religion or nothing.. lol
it is important that it has a choice to how he will study it, not wheter it wants to do it.



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20 Aug 2008, 6:36 pm

I could never believe in anything that I hadn't seen proof for - and since no one can prove that god exists, church did nothing to make me believe him.

I went for the toys and stickers they gave out for answering questions. I can tell you the exact day I stopped going to church - I know because its written in "my" bible. When you passed third grade you were presented with a bible. After you got the bible there were no more toys and stickers. So thought I longed for the bible, I saw no point in going back to church once I got it.

I was president of the bible club in high school but the reasons I joined involved looking good on college applications and getting to work in the shop every day after school. Some would state that they wanted to read John 3:16 and the person beside me would have to whisper to me where at in the bible I needed to look (ie front, middle back). I had no clue. When it was my turn to share a verse, I opened a page at random, picked a verse than told why that one was important to me.

If there was any doubt in my mind left about god's existence it was the night when I was 11 years old and decided to pray for him for the first time (on my own). I prayed that he would keep my cat safe because I forgot to let him back in the house - he'd tried to get in once but one of the other cats hissed and swatted so he choose to stay outside. He was hit by a car and killed that very night. Also I wasn't permitted to see the body so I never received closure from his death. I haven't made many real prayers to god since then, (less than 5) but there were similar results to everything else I prayed to him about

Also I was able to recognize the ridiculousness of what passes for a religious holiday in Christians childs. Oh jesus was killed on the cross, here's some candy for you. We celebrate jesus's birthday by not talking about him in our homes but by giving you numerous presents. My bf's family is jewish and i like how their religious holidays actually involve a religious component. They make much more sense.



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22 Aug 2008, 3:28 am

What I would suggest is thinking of questions during the sermon, and then after, ask your kid, if you get, say, half of them right, he can have a treat, like a pack of pokemon cards, chocolate, whatever he likes, as long as it's inexpensive.

It should make his like church more, as it is more interactive, and he can get a prize, but he will be paying attention more to the sermon.