Aspergers independence poll (might be controversial)

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I get a little upset with some older aspies(and yes, at 44, I am one) having some bias that..because they did it, all aspies should do it and if they don't then it is because they are just to lazy or coddled.

This is a "spectrum" the diagnoses does not measure "spectrum" it just gives you a blanket label. It does not quantify you as aspie1, aspie2, aspie3, according to your function level and it certainly does not take into account co-morbids like dyslexia, auditory processing disorder, physical ailments.

So...just because one aspie worked hard and suffered and managed not to starve does not mean that ALL aspies can achieve the same if they are just willing to suffer more.

I have pushed myself to the point of break-down(physical and psychological) and had the lowest paying, dirtiest jobs available and still would have starved with out occasional intervention and help from social services and my parents. Someone may have made it inspite of their difficulties because they had strengths that help compensate. Not all aspies are science wizs, engineers or tech genuises. I have been doing crap jobs for 28 years and will continue to do them as long as I am able but it does catch up to you when your in your 40's and your body can no longer keep up with the 20 year olds that you work these menial jobs with.

There has never been a job that I "slacked at"....I give my all. I have still been fired for not "fitting in" and I think that has become more and more difficult as the jobs shifted from industrial and agricultural to service industry where they demand that you be able to read NVC, be a team player(though I see little evidence in my co-workers ), and have good people skills..ie...(smiling in all the right places), executive function and muti-tasking. The world has become even more NT in just the past 28 years that I have been working. Have you lokked in the want adds lately? These put us at a disadvantage. The senory issues add to these problems. Many of the co-morbids that are COMMON but not an actual part of the DX...eliminate some of the options that some aspies may have.

It is a SPECTRUM. Don't judge all aspies based on where you are on it.

Hi All;

It would seem I have found a "debate" partner here. (giggle) Thank you.

First of all, I define things strictly. Financial independence= the ability to provide for ones basic needs without external unearned assistance. Owning a home= owning ones dwelling.

I have difficulty connecting on an emotional level, because I just don't spend much time there. Therefore, other peoples "theory of mind" doesn't work so well with me. So what I'm stating is: Krex I think you are assuming what I'm assuming. I assume your assumptions are in error.

Perhaps, a metaphor would clarify my position.

In any race, someone has to come in last. The race is not over untill the last contestant crosses the finish line. None the less, for any one participant, the race is over either when they cross the finish line, or when they quit. Even the person who came in last has achieved a personal victory! Lesson learned: Quiters never win; winners never quit.

There is a very strong corrilary between expectation and result. Therefore if you expect to fail, you probably will. Conversely, your chance for achievement is directly tied to your expectation of doing so.

There are many people who are profoundly more disabled than I, yet have achieved far more than myself. As aspies, I think many of us need to take "The road less traveled", and will be beter for having taken it.

Regards, and Best Wishes,

Being finantially independent, sure. Living in your own house, sure. All aspies, no. But hopefully more than not.

One issue for many Aspies is simply getting the job in the first place, as employers tend to rely on interviews for hiring, so if you don't do well, you're not going to get the job. Even after you get a job, there's a chance that you could get laid off when sales aren't as high as expected. With the economy and housing crisis, there are plenty of NT's who aren't fully independent. I think that the housing crisis was caused by those sub-prime loans and ARM's that mostly NT's got because they didn't read the fine print when signing the application.

Living independently has been very important to me. Always. I've made it priority one. With some luck and a lot of work, I live independently, and comfortably at last. At enormous cost. One only has so much energy to go around. I spent more time getting ready for work that others spent on building relationships and starting families. Families and relationships - that stuff is incredibly stressing for me. As others have pointed out, the co-morbid conditions are tough too. Like depression. That one is a beast for me. So. I don't expect everyone to be able to live independently. I consider myself enormously fortunate that I've been able to do it, but it's cost me too. But it was worth it. Everyone has different circumstances. The beauty of Wrong Planet is we can share. We can help each other get through it. Even thrive. I like that.

Yes-I want to try an internet T-shirt selling business using the current crazes and the like. Or to get a computer job, or to try to see the forumforcreaticsstudy.

I can't tell if it's my AS or the economy. I'd like to think I'll be totally independent once I find a job...but that's a big "if".

I agree that most of them can be financially independent, but not all of them.

The question is rigged! You could ask "Do ALL cats have one head"? or "Do ALL rivers have water"? where no would be the correct answer.

What I do at work is different than how I act at home or somewhere else in a different format where I have to socialize. I hate my job but, when I am at work I am a little more calm (Strangely) also I feel more professional there too. I hate socializing at all don't get me wrong but when It comes to work my job sort of pushes me to be more professional.(I still feel strangely at work all or most of the time when I act professional because others act more laid back)