Finding a job is almost impossible.

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01 Mar 2009, 4:02 pm

I've done it before, but in this economy I'm not sure what to do. Usually I get rejected by almost every employer based strictly on physical appearance. I even had one employer straight say sorry, you aren't right for this job without even talking to me. That was a painful one.

What a sad sack eh? I am trying to find a job with minimal human contact, like a graveyard gas station job or something. Wish me luck.

Anyone have any ideas on jobs with minimum of human contact? I've done phone support before, and again the gas station thing. I really try to avoid being anywhere in public because I just can't stand being around people. I think it's actually RUDE for me to be around them too. I probably scare little kids. Maybe I'm in the wrong place, let me know if you think thats it.

Thanks for any advice.



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01 Mar 2009, 5:04 pm

I'm not having any luck either.

I tried the state rehab agency.
In theory, they pay to send you out for an official diagnosis,
then assign you to a job coach and try to get you working.
The employer gets a tax break and the state pays half of your
salary during any training or probation period, up to six months.

It didn't work for me because I couldn't get the right diagnosis.
They just want to sell me drugs and therapy.

If you can get a diagnosis, it might work for you.



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01 Mar 2009, 9:01 pm

Have you tried jobs like the late shift at Wal-Mart or some kind of 24 hour grocery store?

Stuff like working in the processing room at a retail store is optimal, too.

Then there's also the option of getting supported employment (stuff like One Work Source and VESID help a lot), which will find you a job no matter how long it takes.



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03 Mar 2009, 7:36 am

I understand how you feel.

As much as NTs sometimes dispute this to me, I find that over 90% of employment is about making a "connection" with those who make the hiring decision. I've seen it. I've experienced it. I've seen it stated that way in books on how to win a job.

No matter how "skilled' you are, the hiring person wants someone who is a "good fit" for the office. Today (at 40) I'm a highly-functional person with AS, but in the hiring process the odds of my "connecting" with the interview people is very poor. I can act the part, be charming and friendly, but it's all an act...which I suspect they can sense.

All of my jobs have depended on basically two factors....

1. The employer is desperate for anyone who will take the job.
2. Employer valued my skills over my personality.

I'm lucky today to be doing work for someone who has a similar personality (although he's NT). It has enabled me to have a more functional relationship, but the pay isn't great and there is no future in it for me.

I'm in over $100K in debt for education (dual major BA degree and graduate school), and as if the economy being in the can isn't bad enough, knowing that I can't win over the interviewer like an NT can really sucks a lot of hope out of the future.

I just recently learned about AS....for 40 years I tried to deal with life with no clue about what made me different from others.

Can disclosing your AS status help or hurt your job odds? I don't know. I can see it as a negative because with the ADA, many employers try to avoid hiring disabled people via any legitimate excuse they can find. However, I also find that when people know a person has a disability, they suspend normal expectations and are more open minded. If you (with AS) have mastered several marketable skills but the AS poses some workplace compatibility issues, it is possible disclosure of your special needs (which may be easy to accommodate) would open doors that get closed for all the wrong reasons (assumption that you aren't "right" for the job).

Good luck in any case.



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03 Mar 2009, 8:11 am

shinylight wrote:
I've done it before, but in this economy I'm not sure what to do. Usually I get rejected by almost every employer based strictly on physical appearance. I even had one employer straight say sorry, you aren't right for this job without even talking to me. That was a painful one.

What a sad sack eh? I am trying to find a job with minimal human contact, like a graveyard gas station job or something. Wish me luck.

Anyone have any ideas on jobs with minimum of human contact? I've done phone support before, and again the gas station thing. I really try to avoid being anywhere in public because I just can't stand being around people. I think it's actually RUDE for me to be around them too. I probably scare little kids. Maybe I'm in the wrong place, let me know if you think thats it.

Thanks for any advice.


everyone has to start somewhere, so apply to store for night/morning warehouse duty, apply to become a dishwasher at the local pizza shop, janitor, etc. then after a year you have something to put on your resume and you can look for other jobs. ask all your family members and people you know that you need any job you can get that you can do alone. some people work best alone. enjoying solitude at work is an ADVANTAGE to some employers where NTs would die from boredom :)



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03 Mar 2009, 12:26 pm

Learning2Survive wrote:
enjoying solitude at work is an ADVANTAGE to some employers where NTs would die from boredom :)
True. I had one job in which the interviewer "warned" me that I would be all alone in a back room, and he wanted to be sure that I wouldn't mind. I didn't get it. I thought he was being sarcastic, offering it as a selling point. Heaven and hell are in the eye of the beholder.



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03 Mar 2009, 7:55 pm

shinylight wrote:
I even had one employer straight say sorry, you aren't right for this job without even talking to me. That was a painful one.

How do you dress when you go in for an interview? Do you wear a button-up shirt? Shave?



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03 Mar 2009, 10:26 pm

I bet Cyanide and I can walk you through finding a new job :)

start a new thread - we'll teach you how to make a resume, dress up for a job, where to apply, how use family members for networking, how prepare for an interview. it is not guaranteed. the economy sucks. but you can greatly increase your chances if you find out about these things.

you can do it man! we believe in you.



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04 Mar 2009, 1:43 pm

Reading all these job stories and such, you guys seem lucky ... you actually get to the interview stage. :)

Me, I look online and there's nearly no jobs available to me - the only entry level office/admin positions seem to be in sales & marketing and such...



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04 Mar 2009, 2:01 pm

F-16 wrote:
Reading all these job stories and such, you guys seem lucky ... you actually get to the interview stage. :)

Me, I look online and there's nearly no jobs available to me - the only entry level office/admin positions seem to be in sales & marketing and such...


feel free to pm me and i walk you through the job finding process. it's not guaranteed but people who have gone through this can be offer great help.

online is worth a try and i now people have gotten lucky and found jobs. but you should also knock on doors and hand your resume to your family members and so on.



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04 Mar 2009, 9:50 pm

Hi,
that is not true,
A job is possible but if you have ideas to go into new business structures.

I posted this and on answers to get this job:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt92555.html

you should be a artist designer or a good php-er


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10 Mar 2009, 7:27 pm

I know how you feel.

I've got a job coach (who's gotten some assistance from her company) and we've applied for a number of positions for me, but so far I've only gotten I interview, and I found out today that I didn't get the job.

Of course, it seems like 90% of all entry level jobs out there are in sales and marketing ... :(



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11 Mar 2009, 7:26 pm

There are also into design and web-programming :)


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06 Apr 2016, 4:28 pm

F-16 wrote:
Reading all these job stories and such, you guys seem lucky ... you actually get to the interview stage. :)

Me, I look online and there's nearly no jobs available to me - the only entry level office/admin positions seem to be in sales & marketing and such...


I have the same exact issues, even with IT degrees. Can't get those to call me, and the only ones that will respond are the salesish one. And, of course, I cannot manage to get past the interviews for those.



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10 Apr 2016, 10:13 am

I can definitely relate.

I ve tried looking for anything that does not have massive amounts of social contact.

Ive even started looking for constuction laborour jobs.

I would ideally like a laboratory technician job (have basic science qualifactions - A level equivilent plus job involves following processes) but they are few and far between.

I would consider a warehouse Job but the idea of working nights - would screw with my sleep patterns too much.

I think I might like working in IT BUT I need to raise the money to do so first....