How to get employment without competition?

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Gutcruncher
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28 Aug 2011, 2:00 pm

I have a medical problem other than AS that would stop me from getting a licence, it is not me thinking so that would stop me but a real medical problem. FACT.

Not sure about the distance, it would have to be in the normal times when public transport is running (i.e. not after a certain time). I don't go outside at all for weeks or months on end though at the moment I can't cope without support which I don't get.

Why are people saying self employment? I don't want to have another breakdown and I wouldn't have the money to start a business, I have student debt and a bad credit rating.



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29 Aug 2011, 4:10 am

People are saying self employment because in fact you've ruled out every other possible job by the following qualifications:

1. You can't leave your house unaccompanied, and there is no one to do that.
2. You can't drive.
3. You cannot apply to any job that has any other applicants, or "competition" for the position.

So you are, by definition, looking for a way to make money by staying at home and never leaving your house, doing something that nobody else is doing or would want to do.

That leaves only one possibility: self employment from home.

Now that you've ruled that out too with your qualification that you're incapable of doing it because it would cause a breakdown, you have ruled out every possible option for earning money except for:

1. Getting on social assistance.
2. Illegal activities such as selling drugs or prostituting yourself.
3. Marrying a wealthy spouse for their money.

When you then rule out #1 because you've tried and they've refused, #2 because you're not a criminal, and #3 because you're not a gorgeous model, you have dismissed every source of revenue that exists except for panhandling and begging for money.

Maybe you need to invest your available resources into finding someone who can help you with your application to get social assistance. Maybe someone from a church could help you with that or refer you to other agencies. Other than that, I can only suggest that you go beg for coins on the sidewalk. I don't mean that to be cruel or unfeeling, but you really only have so many practical options and you've disqualified all of them except for that.

Quite honestly I think you may be emotionally drowning and reaching out grasping for someone to save you, maybe unable to help yourself without some kind of support. If that's not true then I apologize for assuming too much. If it is true, you may need some emotional support or counseling before you can do much of anything practical in terms of working. Without needed support, you may find yourself fearfully saying that every option that can be suggested sounds impossible to you, until nothing is left.



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29 Aug 2011, 7:35 am

You might like to look into your local library to find books dealing with self image and skill development. I'm reading a good book at the moment by Michael Michalko called 'Tinkertoys', all about exercises in creative thinking. And I want to get 'Bear Hunt: Earn Your Living By Doing What You Love' by Malcolm McClean.

So, you're stuck at home. Any chances you'll develop any skills? Carpentry, computer programming, jewelry making, cake decorating???

AS has work positives. 'The Complete Guide to Asperger's Syndrome' by Tony Attwood says that a performance appraisal of an AS employee might conclude that s/he is:

'reliable, persistent, a perfectionist, accurate, logical'... and a bunch of other things.

I've noticed in several books on the subject that there are positives that it is advised to emphasis. But even NTs can talk themselves into a state of depression. So back to the idea of looking into positive self talk, affirmations, whatever. Hit the library, hit the books, learn how you can self talk into a brighter self view.


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29 Aug 2011, 7:22 pm

DoniiMann wrote:
So, you're stuck at home. Any chances you'll develop any skills? Carpentry, computer programming, jewelry making, cake decorating???
I can't afford any education courses. I don't get free courses because I have higher than Level 3 qualifications. I cannot learn those skills as I have no means to afford to learn them. I definitely WANT to do some kind of continuing education but I don't have thousands of pounds lying around to pay for it.

also to the other poster, I AM NOT REFUSING TO DRIVE, I CANNOT DRIVE, DUE TO MEDICAL REASONS

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It doesn't matter if there are so-called "positive", it is up to the EMPLOYER to chose to EMPLOY you. Employers see AS as toxic, extremely bad. I wish that wasn't the case either.



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29 Aug 2011, 7:51 pm

Also I am NOT refusing to be self employed, I just don't want to have a breakdown and be hospitalised again



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29 Aug 2011, 11:00 pm

If you want to get a job that you will not have to compete for, you will need to look for jobs that no one else is willing to do. These are usually disgusting or really dangerous. The distasteful nature of the job means few people will be competing with you. Unfortunately these kinds of jobs rarely pay well (some do, but most don't)

Now if you are good at teaching yourself stuff and you have a nearby library or internet connection, you might be able to teach yourself some skills that few people are likely to have, but are in demand. Do some research... What kinds of businesses are within the range of public transportation and require skills that you have or can learn? Pick a couple of your best skills and see if they can be made useful to some of the local businesses. Then go to those businesses and let them know how much money they could save or earn by hiring you.

In convincing someone to hire you, always pay attention to how it will help the employer to hire you specifically. Your skills or your attention to detail or your commitment to doing the job until it's done are good traits that an employer is looking for.


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30 Aug 2011, 2:29 am

MollyTroubletail wrote:
You cannot avoid competing with people in the regular job market, because every job has either many applicants, or the job will be filled only by someone's friend or relative. And I imagine you don't have many friends willing to give you a job.

Your only practical option is to become self employed, the way I see it. Once in a while a person becomes such a unique specialist in some rare field that he or she is literally the only one who is qualified in that field. Then they will have no competition, for a while, unless it becomes lucrative or trendy. But as you can imagine, being able to do that is even harder than landing a normal job by competing with NT's.

The only other way to get any sort of job without competition is to apply to places that hire everyone who applies, like debt-collection agencies and fast food chains with a constant high staff turnover. But these are the bottom of the job barrel, and probably not the kind of job that could support you or that you could even tolerate.


Yep. I posted a position for a flyer distributor which I consider fairly undesirable work and have a total of ... *checks quickly*... 61 applicants, so there are far too many job seekers and not enough jobs. The only way I was able to find a job was to become self-employed and start a business, and that was the only way that I could even open a position looking for someone else to do some of the advertising foot-work in the business.



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30 Aug 2011, 5:40 am

By free education, I'm not referring to courses. I mean go to the library and get books on whatever subject interests you. Plus you have internet access. There are lots of free manuals online. Learn/practice a subject or skill set at home. Even without the certificate. If you can DEMONSTRATE a high quality of work in your chosen self taught subject, you will demonstrate:

Interest

Aptitude

Attitude

And that he doesn't have to start from scratch.

I remember years ago I did three hospitality certificates. We had to talk to bosses, and one informed us that he'd rather employ someone to work in his bar who hadn't done a course. That way he could train the person how he wanted, rather than hire some recent graduate who thought they knew everything and refused to do it the boss's way.

Horticulture might be a good one. There's always lots of specialty books on the subject. You could impress any boss with your knowledge. Remember, you have to do the time anyway, so fill it. You can learn languages for free using library resources, online resources, and finding native speakers who want to practice their english. An impressive skill that's free and doesn't weigh even one ounce to carry in your head.


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30 Aug 2011, 6:34 am

You have 2 options: look for work that other people might not want to do(or on schedules they don't want to work) or find a busy sidewalk and sit with a cup and a sob story on cardboard. Choose wisely.



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30 Aug 2011, 7:48 am

I saw this online today. You might find some inspiration here:

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30 Aug 2011, 7:56 am

You're all lunatic f*****g wretched BS spouting sociopaths. All this is lunacy. Not an ounce of constructive REALISTIC help here.



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30 Aug 2011, 7:58 am

Disgusting lunatic sociopathic c***s, f*****g all of you. Dribbling inane crap.



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30 Aug 2011, 7:59 am

Gutcruncher wrote:
You're all lunatic f***ing wretched BS spouting sociopaths. All this is lunacy. Not an ounce of constructive REALISTIC help here.


u mad?



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30 Aug 2011, 8:48 am

Thread locked since you are unable to maintain a civil conversation.


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