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26 Aug 2010, 4:30 am

I am wondering if this is an ASD related issue or something separate. I do not mean not wanting to work / being lazy!
What I mean, is, for example... I make toys for pet birds and fancy rats. I started to do this because I could not afford to buy a $28 toy that the parrot will destroy and need to be replaced every 2 days. My pets liked my toys so I try to sell them online. People tell me I should charge more (like $28) but I cannot do that. I charge maybe $16 for what family and friends think I should charge $28 for. If I charged as much as they tell me, I would feel like I was cheating people/taking advantage of them. I would feel very bad about it.
Are any of you like this?



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26 Aug 2010, 5:01 am

you are just a decent chap. be careful, as this world does its best to erase the decency from anybody that has it.
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26 Aug 2010, 5:09 am

You'll never be Bill Gates (rich), but then again you'll never be Bill Gates (put money above decency).

Unfortunately, our current system favors greedy sociopaths, making having a conscience a liability. Still, I see more decent than nakedly greedy people at the flea market.



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26 Aug 2010, 5:52 am

If you make it only about business and make your pricing amoral, you'll make more money, and that's what people expect you to do. However, so long as you're making enough money to get along with, being able to sleep at night feeling I did the right thing during that day I usually find more important.



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26 Aug 2010, 6:29 am

Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them. If people are willing to pay $28, sell for $28 and enjoy your profits I say.



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26 Aug 2010, 7:07 am

Asp-Z wrote:
Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them. If people are willing to pay $28, sell for $28 and enjoy your profits I say.


Agreed (at whatever price people are truly willing to pay), and include quantity discounts at the retail level if you want people to occasionally be able to pay a little less. I am a bit like you and I would even prefer to not have to charge people at all, but we are not talking about demanding a bag of gold in return for a piece of bread here. Just keep your product quality up in order to give people opportunities to feel good about having done business with you after willingly meeting your price.


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26 Aug 2010, 7:43 am

I'd say charge what you need to pay the bills. It's not just about materials, it's also the effort and time involved (I'd say add on at least minimum wage for every hour you spend making these things).

If you want, post a pic of them and we'll suggest prices :P



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26 Aug 2010, 8:23 am

I'm exactly the same and I don't personally get the whole greed thing or people living purely to make money.



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26 Aug 2010, 9:25 am

Well, financial systems were supposed to be for maintaining a community's resource flow. However, it's become more of a "if i have this, then I have power, and therefore am a god among men," mentality over the past several millennia. Sadly, any form of resource allocation will be hindered by human greed, so not much anyone can do unless the whole financial setup was remodeled in some way (bonus points for someone who has figured out how socio-economic systems work). Capitalism supposedly gives everyone a chance, but said people have to be greedy. Communism is an interesting idea, but corporate/political leaders screw that up to no end. Commennalism (sp?) seems to be the best of both, but still has limited success due to lack of popularity (people either want to be one or the other, not both I guess).

ps: dont you mean "aversion" (yes, I'm sadly one of those who's particular about spelling :oops: )



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26 Aug 2010, 3:24 pm

I have a shed full of Honda parts that I have replaced with more valuable or unique JDM parts. I have undersold a bunch of stuff that I could have gotten much more for as well. I figure I am not gonna use it, so I might as well sell it for a reasonable price and let someone who needs it have it...


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26 Aug 2010, 6:18 pm

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
You'll never be Bill Gates (rich), but then again you'll never be Bill Gates (put money above decency).

Lolwat? Bill Gates gives a ton of money to charity and medical research. He's given over $28 billion to charity and has joined with Warren Buffett in an initiative to give away half his entire fortune.


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28 Aug 2010, 11:22 pm

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
You'll never be Bill Gates (rich), but then again you'll never be Bill Gates (put money above decency).


Bill Gates is the nicest, most generous guy alive today.
There's this view in America that if someone is rich, it's because they have no morals and cheated their way to the top.



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31 Aug 2010, 6:57 am

Adrien wrote:
Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
You'll never be Bill Gates (rich), but then again you'll never be Bill Gates (put money above decency).


Bill Gates is the nicest, most generous guy alive today.
There's this view in America that if someone is rich, it's because they have no morals and cheated their way to the top.


People hate success out of jealously. Simple.



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05 Sep 2010, 10:22 pm

No body succeeds in the first place...

Try the supply & demand deal. And I at first, suggest you start selling for cheap $4 or something, then, if there's a higher demand, start working your way up slowly, until you hit the "Market Clearing price", which is the price that is profitable to you AND a price that the consumer is willing to pay....



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18 Sep 2010, 1:09 pm

6Happiness wrote:
I am wondering if this is an ASD related issue or something separate. I do not mean not wanting to work / being lazy!
What I mean, is, for example... I make toys for pet birds and fancy rats. I started to do this because I could not afford to buy a $28 toy that the parrot will destroy and need to be replaced every 2 days. My pets liked my toys so I try to sell them online. People tell me I should charge more (like $28) but I cannot do that. I charge maybe $16 for what family and friends think I should charge $28 for. If I charged as much as they tell me, I would feel like I was cheating people/taking advantage of them. I would feel very bad about it.
Are any of you like this?


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Yes, at one time I felt very much like you did. However, today, year 2010 I tend to look at the idea of competitive prices (vs lowest price in town).

There really are so many aspects to pricing a product or service - there can be so many choices.

Even some professionals use a sliding scale for customers.

So, have I wrested with the idea of pricing? Yes.

Bottomline - you must make a profit to stay in business.

I think a lot of persons share your view of adversion to making money but readjust that view later on in life to conform to what works in the marketplace.



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26 Sep 2010, 3:56 pm

I like to milk as much of a profit as I can. Past bosses can tell you that I'm ruthless in wage negotiations, and often succeed.

I do notice I am a bad haggler, though. Often, I pay more than what I should. It's not really fear, it's just that I think, "the vendor's probably poor, so I should give him his asking price." That sort of thing.