Five fields an Aspie should NEVER work in

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05 Feb 2013, 8:58 pm

Lmao, been a restaurant manager for 16 years - at points I've trained and opened restaurants - you're right though, it's a terrible job for an aspie. I could be a great actor now I guess as well as I've learned not to act aspie.



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16 Feb 2013, 6:04 pm

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ASPIE FRIENDLY:
TEACHER: I believe most aspies should become teacher barring those who are average I.Q. because while NTs with average I.Q. can and do become teachers and even become "researchers" because of their faking ability, we aspies have to be of at least slightly above intelligence to have such jobs. And I guess this rule applies even in other fields, it is often seen that an aspie because of lack of social skills doing a job whose requirement is far below his/her qualification. Highly intelligent aspies can, and they do, become theoretical scientists/researcher.
A very good reason to become a teacher is that in free time you can go to the library and do not need to socialize and also you need not figure out complex social relationship among people like you will have to in other jobs to keep the job. The point is that being an outcast would be much easily ignored in a school, college and university. Therefore I believe that aspies should receive an affirmative action for teaching jobs.


I think my autistic traits would make it hard for me to become a teacher. Being a teacher requires explaining things orally and I have a lot of trouble with oral communication. In addition, I think I would have a hard time in grade schools dealing with students disrupting the class and harassing other students.



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17 Feb 2013, 2:32 am

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Of course the stereotype of lawyers is that they're dishonest and sleazy, I don't generally agree with that - and an Aspie could still succeed in the field in spite of other lawyers reeling in business by fibbing - it wouldn't be as much of a barrier as say being a used car salesman where you have to be completely dishonest to succeed.


I think the reason a lot of folks think criminal defense lawyers are sleazy is that it is generally a given that they are knowingly defending individuals who are guilty. I don't even think it's a true perception of dishonesty as much as that many people cannot wrap their minds around the concept of divorcing personal feelings from simple interpretation of the law. Good lawyers don't defend clients, they defend the law itself. I agree that you are right that Aspies might be better than most at being able to do this as our general mindset is based in logic. The simple fact of the matter is that all of those "not guilty" verdicts of people who are likely guilty forces the police to do a better job, leading to a greater justice system for all. Of course, those who pass the bar can also work as prosecutors if they can't handle the idea of defending the guilty.


Criminal defense lawyers are the "waiters" of the profession and only a small part of it. I am currently pursuing government regulatory work at the FTC/SEC/DOJ (won't say which I'll be working for), which I think is very aspie-friendly. My main job will be reviewing stacks of documents and data, looking for patterns that could indicate corporate malfeasance. I already do a version of this job part-time at the state level, so I know what it's like.

No client interaction at all since the "client" is the people of the United States, and the enemy is capitalism.



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17 Feb 2013, 2:29 pm

I was a Barman, I've done Telemarketing and I've worked in construction, Only one I disliked was Telemarketing.


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17 Feb 2013, 3:02 pm

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2) SALES: again, this field should be avoided...sure an Aspie can relay technical product details inside-out, but would miss the subtle signs that a potential client is not interested in what you have to offer, and try to recoup the sale or adopt another tactic to sell them on something else. Also, in this field your co-workers tend to be cut-throat and competitive even in an unscrupulous way, so an Aspie is liable to be walked all over, have credit stolen for sales due to being too trusting with colleagues as "friends", etc...not good. .

Sorry I disagree with you on that as an aspie I'm going into sales. I've always sold a helluva a lot of stuff. Sometimes I broke records. Of you have OCD you can focus on this career



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17 Feb 2013, 5:40 pm

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18 Feb 2013, 3:48 pm

Philpm930 wrote:
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2) SALES: again, this field should be avoided...sure an Aspie can relay technical product details inside-out, but would miss the subtle signs that a potential client is not interested in what you have to offer, and try to recoup the sale or adopt another tactic to sell them on something else. Also, in this field your co-workers tend to be cut-throat and competitive even in an unscrupulous way, so an Aspie is liable to be walked all over, have credit stolen for sales due to being too trusting with colleagues as "friends", etc...not good. .

Sorry I disagree with you on that as an aspie I'm going into sales. I've always sold a helluva a lot of stuff. Sometimes I broke records. Of you have OCD you can focus on this career


You're going into sales, but you've already sold a lot of stuff??

Anyways - I could see somebody with Aspergers being good at certain niches of sales, or depending on the context.
I'd speculate that they'd do better in a sales setting where the client has some interest already, like inbound sales inquiries; but not so much "cold" sales or lead generation, which requires a very friendly and charming personality and ability to be spontaneous. Still - if you can make more $$ and success and happiness under the former method than the latter, who cares!! !



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18 Feb 2013, 4:25 pm

I have zero persuasiveness. I thought this was one of the prominent aspie traits.


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18 Feb 2013, 5:35 pm

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25 May 2013, 3:20 pm

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I agree with the job list. However I am really trying to clarify the theory that aspies don't empathise. I have all the other so called aspie traits but I over empathise with others. I have done enormous amounts of training and can read social ques now if looking for them but have always struggled with a sense of feelikng what others feel even when I don't want to..... is this true for other aspies? I became a counsellor eventually as I learnt lots of skills etc. and have moved away from counselling again. I am three times as qualified as the person that just got awarded the job I am temping in!! !!

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I have just completed my first year of training in counselling and I found the skills side of it surprisingly difficult. I was very good at the understanding of the theoretical approaches, good at reflecting and summarising the spoken word but I found it difficult selecting the correct words to reflect the emotion that the person was expressing. Following on from that I'm considering not pursuing this career. I have been an analytical chemist for the whole of my adult life and I always wondered why I have been so good at that job. My son was recently diagnosed with Asperger;s and that made me question myself. At the age of 33 I have finally been diagnosed with it too. I feel so relieved as it answers a lot of questions about how I find social situations so difficult etc but I feel disheartened at the thought of a career in counselling may now be out of the question as some of the training may not be within my grasp of understanding. Is empathy a trait that can be learned in the same way I have learned how to behave in social situations? I'm so new to all this!



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25 May 2013, 3:31 pm

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Is empathy a trait that can be learned in the same way I have learned how to behave in social situations? I'm so new to all this!


Empathy is a term that has so many different meanings I would'nt know where to start.

That said, being able to show the non-verbal and verbal communication signs of what is expected as "empathy" presumably can be learned.


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25 May 2013, 8:07 pm

I found that there are interesting high value opportunities for Aspergers in sales and management.

Line management is not great for aspies. I have probably been a terrible boss, providing people with solutions, rather then letting them learn, missing opportunities to show personal issues. etc. However, honesty, reliability, commitment and loyalty plus honest analysis are values in management teams.

Similarly, straight forward sales is full of confrontation, faking, bluffing and other things aspies are weak in. But strategic business development and development of new strategic partnerships requires the same kind of core aspie values: trust worthyness, creativity, new ideas, loyalty in relationships can be of great value in managing key accounts.



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28 May 2013, 4:11 pm

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5) CARPENTRY & CONSTRUCTION: these involve motor skills, spatial reasoning, and practical smarts as opposed to intellectual smarts...while I believe that an Aspie can be a good designer, architect, drafter etc...they would not be as good in "real-time" as far as responding to directions (oh, you wanted this stake driven one foot closer this way away from this wall? Sorry, you didn't tell me that in specific terms...you just assumed I knew). They might focus more on the details of a task rather than looking at the overall environment to infer that the detail-oriented task would not allow for further tasks to be completed in the same general space b/c it is too constraining or interfering, and they can't press "Ctrl+Z" to undo the error as easily as they could in AutoCAD or Visio.


That, plus the "redneck attitudes" that exist in the construction industry.


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30 May 2013, 4:21 pm

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14 Jun 2013, 1:19 am

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I'm a qualified Music teacher but have struggled getting permanent jobs because of poor interview skills, although I am a damn good teacher.

I love kids and get along far better with children than with adults - I struggle interacting with the other teachers and would be quite happy to never see any of them.

I have done supply teaching which is a nightmare as you never know whether there is work that day, or where you will be going or what you will be doing.

At the moment I am writing a book - a perfect job - I get to sit at home all day on the computer and never have to talk to anyone - bliss!


You should just do private instruction at your own home probably. Self employment can be really good to look into, if you ask me, though.



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22 Jun 2013, 7:48 am

I've always had strong aversion to HOSPITALITY, SALES and MANAGEMENT... not sure about the EMERGENCY SERVICES because I'm only stressed in social situations where I'm expected to fake "normal" behavior; in emergency, I remain composed and react better than many other people I know because I'm 1. too dumb to panic and 2. too cold to really suffer seeing people bleeding, dying, etc.
As to this...

daspie wrote:
ASPIE FRIENDLY:
TEACHER: I believe most aspies should become teacher barring those who are average I.Q. because while NTs with average I.Q. can and do become teachers and even become "researchers" because of their faking ability, we aspies have to be of at least slightly above intelligence to have such jobs. And I guess this rule applies even in other fields, it is often seen that an aspie because of lack of social skills doing a job whose requirement is far below his/her qualification. Highly intelligent aspies can, and they do, become theoretical scientists/researcher.
A very good reason to become a teacher is that in free time you can go to the library and do not need to socialize and also you need not figure out complex social relationship among people like you will have to in other jobs to keep the job. The point is that being an outcast would be much easily ignored in a school, college and university. Therefore I believe that aspies should receive an affirmative action for teaching jobs.
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... well, I have some teaching experience, and I would say that it's all right if you work as a tutor with only one student at a time, or in small groups where everyone is interested in the subject and the atmosphere is friendly.
Otherwise, it's a nightmare. I worked at school for some five or six months, and I learned by experience that the social relationships there were far from simple. A teacher gets involved in conflicts between kids, parents, other teachers, school management, etc., and it takes a lot of empathy and diplomatic skills to solve them. Besides, teaching involves a lot of pubic speaking which not everyone feels comfortable with.
I also worked as an assistant teacher at the university for about a year after the graduation. It was better than school; at least, the whole process was at a higher intellectual level. But anyway, I felt that I was not in the right place.