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09 Nov 2018, 3:16 pm

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S9 you think i could get a decent job yes? Even as a highschool dropout?


Why are you so obsessed with a "decent" job? No one starts out with a decent job. Everyone starts on rung one.

In time, yes, you may be able to get a decent job.

But you won't if you never set foot in the work force.

You've either got to go get some qualifications or start at an entry level job.

At least look at what options are available to you?

What websites have you looked up? What jobs did you see advertised? What courses are available?



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09 Nov 2018, 3:19 pm

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Ok but can you understand that i am scared? Because i have anxiety.


I was too at your age. That's why I got a cleaning job. It was great. I had very little interaction with others. It got me used to working.

I went to a local vocational college because going to university in the city scared me.

I don't have a degree, but I do have an IT qualification and that got me a minimum wage job in an office and the more experience I got the more I moved up the ladder.

I'm not rich, but I'm comfortable. Took 18 years though.



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09 Nov 2018, 3:22 pm

And i have no education.



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09 Nov 2018, 3:27 pm

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And i have no education.


You can get some. Look up local colleges.



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09 Nov 2018, 3:29 pm

No not even a highschool diploma.



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09 Nov 2018, 3:31 pm

some homeless people have jobs.

some people that are not homeless do not have jobs.

look up "job training program".

where i live, there is Opportunity Junction and Cypress Mandela Training Center

Job Corps

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09 Nov 2018, 3:32 pm

What Jobs could i even do? Not many right?



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09 Nov 2018, 3:36 pm

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Ok but can you understand that i am scared? Because i have anxiety.
F***! ! We're ALL scared!!

But exactly what are you scared of? Somebody might yell at you? Somebody might criticize your work? Somebody might give you an order?

Three times a week, I have my face buried in a roadside cabinet that is only a few feet from the pavement of a freeway, and that orange vest I wear won't stop a Mack truck running at 75 miles per hour from splattering me against a sound wall and making my wife an instant widow. Every day, I work with live circuits carrying lethal voltages that could literally flash-fry me before anyone could shut off the power. Hardly a week goes by that some stupid driver doesn't plough right through the cones and come within inches of running over me and my crew. At least once a month, I'm hanging 20 feet over a rush-hour freeway doing maintenance on an Amber Alert sign.

Go ahead, tell me again how scared you are.



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09 Nov 2018, 3:38 pm

You said homelessness is no big Deal. Will Füsse what, i would not survive it for Long.



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09 Nov 2018, 3:44 pm

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Sure, and while it may back up what he says about disability vs. employment, it does nothing to justify his claims that work doesn't pay, that there aren't any jobs to be had, and that nobody will hire him anyway.

He chooses to be lazy, and that's his only real problem.


Thing is though is this. Yes, what he says is not absolute but has a high probability. Let's go through his claims one by one and I'm going to refine them.

a. Work doesn't pay. What he really should say is that he is less likely to obtain a job in which he will be able to afford the cost of living which includes but not limited to food, clothing, shelter, and medical care.

b. that there aren't any jobs to be had. There are less likely to be jobs that he is capable of doing that will again be able for him to afford the cost of living which includes but not limited to food, clothing, shelter, and medical care.

c. nobody will hire him anyway. Here is how I will refine it. If one is disabled one is less likely to be hired.

Quite honestly if this study is valid and accurate 40% of the population are struggling to meet at least one basic need for food, health care, housing or utilities. https://www.urban.org/sites/default/fil ... n_2017.pdf

So, if a high minority are struggling what is the likelyhood that Fos11 will be able to be at a job or jobs to where he can afford these needs since he has Aspergers and is disabled like the rest of us?

All one has to do is start looking at this data and I can see why Fos11 is extremely anxious, scared and sees no possible future.



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09 Nov 2018, 3:46 pm

I do not live in the US, but yes even switzerland has poverty.



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09 Nov 2018, 3:47 pm

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I do not live in the US, but yes even switzerland has poverty.


Well, some of my stuff is moot. I don't know about swiss culture or how it works. I do wonder if your country puts out labor stats as well.



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09 Nov 2018, 3:49 pm

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What Jobs could i even do? Not many right?


People have already answered this question.

I'm out. You obviously came on here hoping people would say, "oh poor you. You're parents are being unfair. You don't have to get a job".

Well, sorry kiddo, you can't give up before you've even tried. People have given you loads of useful advice and you won't engage with those suggestions. You just complain, "No I can't, I can't." You don't even try.

You have tried my patience though and I'm done.



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09 Nov 2018, 3:50 pm

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Sure, and while it may back up what he says about disability vs. employment, it does nothing to justify his claims that work doesn't pay, that there aren't any jobs to be had, and that nobody will hire him anyway.

He chooses to be lazy, and that's his only real problem.


Thing is though is this. Yes, what he says is not absolute but has a high probability. Let's go through his claims one by one and I'm going to refine them.

a. Work doesn't pay. What he really should say is that he is less likely to obtain a job in which he will be able to afford the cost of living which includes but not limited to food, clothing, shelter, and medical care.

b. that there aren't any jobs to be had. There are less likely to be jobs that he is capable of doing that will again be able for him to afford the cost of living which includes but not limited to food, clothing, shelter, and medical care.

c. nobody will hire him anyway. Here is how I will refine it. If one is disabled one is less likely to be hired.

Quite honestly if this study is valid and accurate 40% of the population are struggling to meet at least one basic need for food, health care, housing or utilities. https://www.urban.org/sites/default/fil ... n_2017.pdf

So, if a high minority are struggling what is the likelyhood that Fos11 will be able to be at a job or jobs to where he can afford these needs since he has Aspergers and is disabled like the rest of us?

All one has to do is start looking at this data and I can see why Fos11 is extremely anxious, scared and sees no possible future.


That's no excuse not to even try.

People crash their cars everyday. But I still drive my car.



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09 Nov 2018, 3:55 pm

Why this bootstrap mentality? You should know that autists have a hard time finding jobs. You are autistic, right?



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09 Nov 2018, 4:02 pm

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Why this bootstrap mentality? You should know that autists have a hard time finding jobs. You are autistic, right?


Yes, I struggled to get a job. My communication skills were terrible when I was your age.

I really wanted a job as a waitress in a cafe. I thought it would be cool, but no one would hire me. I can't remember what else I applied for, but it took 6 months of unemployment and constant hunting to find something.

Cleaning doesn't sound glamourous, but I could do it. No one cared that I couldn't hold a conversation as long as I could hold a vacuum cleaner.

The IT qualification helped me get a receptionist job. I have no idea how I got that job. It was only part time. The interviewer was a fellow quirky person and saw something in me I guess, though I was told often that I needed to improve my communication skills.

If he hadn't taken a chance on me I'm not sure where I would have ended up.