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13 Jul 2009, 3:04 pm

Again, everyone is totally expendable so what is the point? We want to hear from someone who lives INDEPENDENTLY, works and keeps a job regularly for years and years, and can afford their own house, not living with someone else. Bottom line: Being nice at work got me the words 'you are easy to pick on because you are so nice'. This question is moot, since again we put up with the noise, loudness and nastiness, and they still refused the salary requirement, offered no salary raise for the 21mile commute after initially saying when they made me the job offer that you would work locally.

So, basically, none of the real problems have been solved in this forum entry and response. My seminar, and working for yourself, is sometimes the only solution.
I received that response in PM from Donna Williams herself. It is what it is.. do not expect it to change anytime soon.

Either that , or increase the awareness of the differences in communication for asp. autism and others in the workplace. That is what I , and others, are striving to do.

The number of managers who I have personally seen throw fits and temper tantrums worse than 2 year old's shows that the 'I have to be calm at work' thing is not true.
( I work in management). Just because you are owner or manager does not give you an excuse for acting worse than a 4 year old.

NEVER take abuse at work with the logic 'I have to.. they are paying me'. They are NOT paying you. Now, you have a double insult. I will personally give you the list of people who have been called 'f u b***h' ,in the workplace, by the manager (!) and were never paid for their work time. The huge number of people who personally told me they had to go to Dept of Labor to fight to get their earned wages for hours worked after being fired or quitting.



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14 Jul 2009, 6:38 am

ww wrote:
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My take about the OP is this....

Fast food jobs are a dime a dozen with high turnover...especially with people who don't want to work. It's not a horrible job, but you have to get there when scheduled to work and do your job.

Some people just want to be up-front with what their position is (no nonsense) so you know, and if you don't plan to work, go home and save yourself (and her) the trouble of training you.


What are you talking about?? If they're a 'dime a dozen', why aren't people lining up to work there if so many are 'desperate' and whining every day how the economy is bad and they have no money? Yeah, right. U didn't answer that question.


I'm just stating something I've seen. I worked in grocery stores. It's easy to get someone in the door who says they want to work, but a lot of them won't do a lick of work if you don't watch them all the time. A business needs people who will do their job without having to be watched once they are trained. If in the case I felt the OP presented the trainer had her share of people who show up for a job but really won't work, I could understand why she said what she said.

I was not trying to pass judgment on any specific person.



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14 Jul 2009, 7:43 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
ww wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
My take about the OP is this....

Fast food jobs are a dime a dozen with high turnover...especially with people who don't want to work. It's not a horrible job, but you have to get there when scheduled to work and do your job.

Some people just want to be up-front with what their position is (no nonsense) so you know, and if you don't plan to work, go home and save yourself (and her) the trouble of training you.


What are you talking about?? If they're a 'dime a dozen', why aren't people lining up to work there if so many are 'desperate' and whining every day how the economy is bad and they have no money? Yeah, right. U didn't answer that question.


I'm just stating something I've seen. I worked in grocery stores. It's easy to get someone in the door who says they want to work, but a lot of them won't do a lick of work if you don't watch them all the time. A business needs people who will do their job without having to be watched once they are trained. If in the case I felt the OP presented the trainer had her share of people who show up for a job but really won't work, I could understand why she said what she said.

I was not trying to pass judgment on any specific person.


I am a manager, remember? So I am the one who has to watch the people who don't work. AS A MANAGER, I never took a mean attitude with my subordinates, because I had so many jerky bosses in the past. If people were paid according to the work they do, they would be much more ambitious to work hard. Not sure where you live, but around here, people who stand around all day keep their jobs, particularly in grocery stores, where I see them talking to their friends and on their cellular phone instead of doing their job. Also saw one reading a magazine on the job. Ha! Not sure who u keep referring to (??) as OP, original poster, but they have a name.



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15 Jul 2009, 6:50 am

I don't want to get into a pissing contest over this. I was just posting my 2 cents. :(



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25 Jul 2009, 7:29 pm

I think what she meant by 'mean', is that she's, strict, focused, and possibly not forgiving. If the other guys were chiming in, that's probably what it means. In a way, that could actually be good, in that the rules will be clearly defined, and you know how to act in a given situation.

I haven't worked in fast food in almost 30 years (I was ass't manager at a Taco chain you've probably heard of) for about 3 weeks. I got let go because someone was stealing from the till, and I was too busy to keep an eye on it (since we were always short-handed).

My daughter's done fast food, and it sounds like a lot of people assume it's 'lowest common denominator' sort of work. Since most chains are franchises, they measure everything (a lot of them can tell you your average time on getting out a burger with extra pickles at 2:30 in the afternoon, and how much that's costing), and the franchises have to meet their target costs and profits, or the franchise can go to someone else.