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14 Jul 2009, 4:18 am

First things first, have a virtual hug:

(((((((((((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))))))))))))

OK, hope you feel a bit better. Now, depending on the culture the word 'ret*d' may be used as a general insult and not something directed to you personally. The person on the other side of the counter may not have known about your problems and the word was just part of his (limited) vocabulary. Another example, in some cultures the word 'spastic' is an insulting term for someone who is physically disabled yet I have a service manual on my shelf that talks about "spastic solder joints" which in this case means broken.

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P.S. Yes, he was rude.



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14 Jul 2009, 6:52 am

SeizeTheDay,
maybe they are biased to fast food staff,and it doesn't matter how slight the mistake was-are still going to look faulty and a lesser being to them.
am know people who are like that and they see all fast food staff as having severe intellectual disability,but people with ID are not usually given jobs behind the counter/doing all the food,they are given table/bin etc cleaning jobs [am know this as have lived with IDers who did it one day a week].

maybe fast food places should let staff refuse to serve people if they're being nasty,they'd soon change then when they've not got any food to stuff themselves with.


vanilla_slice,
'spastic' isn't a word for all physical disability,it's due to having stiff jerky muscles through cerebral palsy and was an innocent word,but then it got hijacked like the rest of them,lots of people have tried to reclaim them all though.


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14 Jul 2009, 8:07 am

In England, spastic means ret*d in a very insulting way.


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14 Jul 2009, 8:33 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
In England, spastic means ret*d in a very insulting way.


Why is that? That explains why the BBC banned Ian Dury's "Spasticus Autisticus." But I still don't get it. Is it hard for people there to see someone have spasms?


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14 Jul 2009, 8:42 am

he called you a "ret*d" because you dropped a cup?

i would have turned to him and said "yes i am ret*d. i am sorry about that. have you got anything else to add?"
usually people go quiet and think to themselves that they may have been too harsh.

( i know you are not ret*d and i know i am not ret*d but i would pretend i was ret*d after someone accused me of it, and i would want them to display their reaction to me)

the point is that he would not probably have been so cruel as to call you a ret*d if he really did think you were ret*d. if he found out you were battling some obstacles that he did not preconceive, he may be very sorry for his callousness. if not, then he is best consigned to memory.

i always am never affected by people's attitudes that i do not feel i deserve.



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14 Jul 2009, 8:58 am

b9 wrote:
he called you a "ret*d" because you dropped a cup?

i would have turned to him and said "yes i am ret*d. i am sorry about that. have you got anything else to add?"
usually people go quiet and think to themselves that they may have been too harsh.

( i know you are not ret*d and i know i am not ret*d but i would pretend i was ret*d after someone accused me of it, and i would want them to display their reaction to me)

the point is that he would not probably have been so cruel as to call you a ret*d if he really did think you were ret*d. if he found out you were battling some obstacles that he did not preconceive, he may be very sorry for his callousness. if not, then he is best consigned to memory.

i always am never affected by people's attitudes that i do not feel i deserve.



I think this is a pretty good comeback. Sometimes people really will behave better if they are suddenly ashamed of something they did or said. But if the person feels no appropriate sense of shame then they are, like you said, "best consigned to memory".



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14 Jul 2009, 9:29 am

Janissy wrote:
b9 wrote:
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I think this is a pretty good comeback. Sometimes people really will behave better if they are suddenly ashamed of something they did or said. But if the person feels no appropriate sense of shame then they are, like you said, "best consigned to memory".


yes i agree but i forgot to add that it is not a good thing to prey on anyone's sympathy as well. i do not need any appraisal gained from "sympathy" from other people to tell me if i am valid.

i am so tired goodnight



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14 Jul 2009, 9:33 am

b9 wrote:
Janissy wrote:
b9 wrote:
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I think this is a pretty good comeback. Sometimes people really will behave better if they are suddenly ashamed of something they did or said. But if the person feels no appropriate sense of shame then they are, like you said, "best consigned to memory".


yes i agree but i forgot to add that it is not a good thing to prey on anyone's sympathy as well. i do not need any appraisal gained from "sympathy" from other people to tell me if i am valid.

i am so tired goodnight


Sympathy, no. But purposely activating their sense of shame is a fine way to go.

A friend once did this on my behalf. I was 9 months pregnant and we were both riding the city bus and standing up. Nobody would give me a seat. She loudly said, "I don't mind standing. I'm not 9 months pregnant. But you are. One of these people really should give a pregnant lady a seat!" You should have seen shamefaced people come flying off of their seats to give me one.



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14 Jul 2009, 10:28 am

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ret*d means delay or hinder. ret*d means delayed. If I drop something, there was a retardation in the control of my own self that lead to the dropping of an object. It is completely different from attempting to say that a small mistake means your entire psyche is ret*d, but ultimately mistakes inherently are the result of a retardation of action, if you had processed the situation in a less delayed manner and not had the hindered ability to respond, would you have made a mistake? If there was not such a delay between the loss of grip on a cup and the movement of the hand to beneath the cop to stop it's fall, would the cup have dropped?


.. and that has absolutely nothing to do with this topic.



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14 Jul 2009, 11:03 am

And you reacted by bawling? I would have replied with something like "Too damn right! Only a spastic could hit the floor when aiming for a moronic customer's face".



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14 Jul 2009, 11:16 am

Michjo wrote:
And you reacted by bawling? I would have replied with something like "Too damn right! Only a spastic could hit the floor when aiming for a moronic customer's face".


Haha... :D


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14 Jul 2009, 11:23 am

I had a person that I knew and considered to be a friend declare with sincerity that he thought that I was literally ret*d...because of the way that I act.

When I worked at Whole Foods, I had a customer threaten to jump over the deli counter and kick my ass if there was any evidence that I had done something bad to the sandwich she kept having me make over and over again



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14 Jul 2009, 11:29 am

They're crazy 8O
People can get really crazy sometimes 8O

Such violence for... what?
Nothing



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14 Jul 2009, 12:00 pm

poopylungstuffing wrote:
I had a person that I knew and considered to be a friend declare with sincerity that he thought that I was literally ret*d...because of the way that I act.

When I worked at Whole Foods, I had a customer threaten to jump over the deli counter and kick my ass if there was any evidence that I had done something bad to the sandwich she kept having me make over and over again


I know the feeling. Before this, there had been rumours that I was very intellectually delayed because of my personality and my seizure disorder. Shows how ignorant people can be. Thankfully I have friends that are on my side trying to keep the rumours from spreading. That's another reason why that incident was so hard to bare. That and I am a strong supporter of the Special Olympics's "Spread the Word to End the Word" cause.


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16 Jul 2009, 9:54 pm

you can't let crap like that bother you, i worked in food service for 1+ year, customers love to give you crap. it's just something you gotta learn to tolerate.
trust me, you'll eventually get much worse than something like "ret*d."


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17 Jul 2009, 3:50 am

It's horrible to treat anyone like an inferior. Some people have never been educated well enough to respect other human beings.
Next time someone says something similar to you in a similar situation, you could say "I'm sorry for dropping your cup, but you have to apologize for what you just said." And it would be helpful if there were other customers or co-workers around.

It doesn't matter the age. That kind of behaviour and language must not be tolerated.