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Ichinin
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23 Apr 2010, 5:27 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
How does the IT field continue to run like this?


It just shows how corrupt and stupid the entire business have become. People with no real technical skills and useless certifications that arent usefull for anything than of wiping your own ass with are belived to be usefull and can present themselves as socially skilled, so the recruiters choose them instead of people who actually can solve problems.

As someone put it on another forum:
"It is ok to be mediocre, as long as you're social."

Anyway, i wish you good luck in finding a job in the business.


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03 May 2010, 8:42 pm

Perhaps my situation was different, this will not work out for everyone. It is my perspective that there are whole legions of people doing what they are supposed to do to get a job. So if you follow in their foot steps, your chances of getting the job are that much lower. I would advise thinking outside of the box. This is what happened to me when I was not even looking for a job.

Some time ago, I discovered a public web service. I found the web service difficult to use and a general pain. I used a shortcoming in the web service to scrape the data (public domain) and build my own database of its contents. Over the next month I wrote an easy to use web service and made it publically available. I had no intention of looking for a job, but for some reason I felt the need to show off a little. I sat in on a few public board meetings and discussed what I had done. There was a little alarm among some members of the board, but the more prominent members seemed pleased. Some six months later I got a phone call and was offered a contract with this organization. Since accepting this position, I have been able to vent a lot of my creative energy and get paid for it. My end goal is still and always will be to work for myself, but for now it has worked out.

Try using some of your creative energy, and making sure that everyone can see the things you have created. Someone, somewhere, will see and will be impressed.



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18 May 2010, 12:31 pm

Jimbeaux wrote:
In '91, I found my first two jobs in the newspaper. You may want to try companies' websites, job boards, and word of mouth. If they say they want 1 to 3 years experience, don't be afraid to apply. You already don't have the job. ;)

Big thing is to call a few days after you send your resume and ask on the status. It shows you are interested and that may be enough to get you noticed.


1. What happens if they have multiple requirements? For example, they may want 1-3 years of vb.net. In addition, they may want 3-4 years of C# or 4 years of oracle? What if most or all of these jobs are like this? What do I do?

2. How many days is a few days? This is vague.

3. When I call the company who do I ask to speak to? Whom do I call exactly?

4. How do I ask for the status? What is the appropriate way to ask?

5. Can a resume exceed 1 page or not? I'm receiving mixed answers. If not, how do I make it look good without exceeding 1 page.

6. In all fairness and honesty do you think we aspies are truly capable of employment anywhere or not?



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18 May 2010, 8:22 pm

1.
Usually when these figures are written up, they off of the top of someones head. Quite often the person making the requirements has little to no knowledge in the required subjects beyond a basic understanding of what they actually are. As a result, the ones who precisely fit the mold are rare. Many are lying. Leaving so few to fit the mold in my opinion is probably an HR (Human Resources) tactic to reducing the number of applying applicants significantly. Try anyways, but be honest. And even better than that, make sure your honesty shows through. If listing languages that you know, list those you once knew and forgot. List your proficiency in various languages, even those of which you are low in at the moment; just be ready and open to learn whatever new technologies they want you to learn.

2.
I personally would wait anywhere from two to four days. Depending of course on the speed at which they intend to fill the position.

3.
Usually whoever is doing the actual hiring. In most places of business, this is the HR (Human Resources) department. However, smaller places, such as the office in which I work, it may be someone else. For example, the Executive Director handles this sort of thing where I work.

4.
This depends on the personality of the person on the other end. It is probably best to just ask in a NT friendly and polite manner whether receipt of your resume/application was successful and where you currently stand in the application process. This should be a brief phone call, just friendly enough to be remembered when your name comes across the hiring managers desk, trying too hard can make any social awkwardness you may or may not possess show through, and we want to wait until we are past the "HR Filters" for that. "HR Filters" can be really tough to get by, so it is best not to give them any ammunition to disregard your resume. I would not recommend calling more than two times during the application process, unless there is good reason to differ from this. My wife mentions to me another good idea, you could also try emailing them. Since email is persistent (unless deleted) a little piece of you will always be in their inbox.

5. (First part of question)
I am not touching that one with a ten foot pole. However, leave out employment terms less than three months unless relevant to the position you are applying for.

5. (Second part of question, it is not letting me use BBCode to quote)
Honestly, I am not sure if what I do is appropriate or not. I tend to utilize border-less tables to condense relevant material (such as programming languages) in to a confined, but noticeable, space. I use different size fonts for various sections of the paper, though about 10 points in most locations.

6.
This is impossible to answer, as not all aspies are the same. Like NTs, aspies come in all shapes and sizes and degrees of severity. Many have even learned to fit in. I personally find myself lucky, I have a boss that understands me and copes with the things that may appear strange to her and others.
The next time you are treated rudely by customer service, remember, some body felt it appropriate to give that rude individual a job. That just proves that some where there is a place for everyone. Some times it is just harder for some, especially those of us with disabilities, to find that place. Discrimination and a lack of understanding are very real things, and it will get you down some times, but remember who you are, and what makes you great.