I Don't WANT to Work!

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....except for the fact that depression was the result of the anxiety of living in a social construct that I didn't fit into. I no longer have the levels of anxiety I had when I was struggling to work and get by (the xanax helps a LOT). I am by no means isolated,. The big difference is I now have control over my surroundings and I can pick and choose when and where to be social without having to be forced into it. You're right, you are nowhere near an expert.

....and for the sake of staying on topic I will simply rephrase my initial point... there is no shame in being on disability!

Now I've got to put my two cents in. I did the 30 years servitude - first job in 1967. Last job ended 1997. Guess what - I should never, *never*! !! have been forced to do that. I supported myself but my life has been pure unmitigated hell. As an individual, I must have paid enough premiums to take some back as benefits on my permanent disability. But I wish, oh how I wish! that I could have spent my life differently.

And you, who are you to tell anybody whether they should work? And whom are you calling a leech? Get down off that soapbox. None of us knows enough to judge another.

Honestly, I do want to work. I am on disability right now. I honest to God hate it. I am doing some work right now. I am doing mystery shopping. It sucks. It's too ad-hoc. There is no routine to it but I do not know how to pass the interviews even for walmart. I do not see how you like to just be on disability.

Honestly, I think we are going to have to challenge American values, anti-value, and beliefs. http://ultimatesuperset.blogspot.com/

An anti-value is a value that is repulsive to a person or people. For instance, a sense of entitlement would be repulsive to some people. This is their anti-value. Jimbeaux, you debated violet_yoshi about how you dealing with your girlfriend's son I believe. I'm not sure if you're engaged or married yet. I'm on your side on that one. Your son is a guest in your home. He can't just do whatever he wants. He should not be entitled to break your stuff whenever he feels like it or be on your computer when you're busy.

I have a fundamental problem with a sense of entitlement being an absolute bad thing. Here is why.
http://ultimatesuperset.blogspot.com/20 ... ement.html
http://ultimatesuperset.blogspot.com/20 ... douts.html
http://ultimatesuperset.blogspot.com/20 ... in-my.html

There has to be some entitlements or else I can claim that I'm not entitled not to commit murder which has to be a false statement. Would you mind talking about this with me so we can try to resolve this?

Well before I was diagnosed with AS I went through 3 years of misdiagnosis, and they had me on SSRIs and Tricyclics which did nothing but make me worse. It wasn't until I self-diagnosed myself with AS and took myself to the top autism specialist in the state and got my official diagnosis that we realized the depression part was caused by the anxiety, and the anxiety by the sensory problems, and (guess what) the sensory problems from the autism. It's a sad state we live in where doctors don't bother trying to find the cause of mental problems and simply throw drugs at the symptoms to make them go away. The xanax of course turned the volume of everything way down which in turn reduced all the other symptoms (most of which I haven't even listed here).

I feel like a new man, but I know there is still no way in hell I could ever hope to have a job.

I wish I had a desire to work or do something, but I don't and I am ok with that.

Haha nice links cube, I liked that.

So obviously, you simply cannot work. Sorry to hear that. I understand, and your disability payments are completely justified, and good for you for not feeling like it is a stigma (although those of us who do are NOT all as*holes).
Have you tried Welbutrin or Effexor? They might help! They did WONDERS for me! And yes, I had debilitating anxiety disorder.

I give up, if you want to spend the rest of your life collectting small checks every month and not challenging yourself, go ahead. I feel kind of sorry for you, but its your choice.

If you get on the right meds, like me, you may regain the desire to work and challenge yourself!

If your anxiety is that bad, how did you manage to get 2 college degrees, but you can't last in a job for more than a week? That makes absolutely no sense. Plus you say that you take Xanax which makes it a lot better... You're really not helping your case here. Not to mention the fact that if your anxiety was really that bad, a disability check every month wouldn't give you "solace". You'd still be having panic attacks constantly/

Your story just makes no sense, and you keep contradicting yourself.

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Besides the fact that I'm really sick of society lately, you make other people with AS (like me) look bad.

You talk about giving up and challenging yourself in the same sentence?

You've had debilitating anxiety disorder???? I am shocked. I did not know that. Will you take a look at my blog sometime and give me a critique if you do not mind? I do want to be able to work at somepoint. I've even been to voc-rehab. Apparently they gave me the wrong appointment day or I misunderstood myself.

This entire argument is petty, small minded and ultimately absurd. The whole reason for the 'spectrum' umbrella for describing Autism is because different people may function at widely varying levels. What is doable or even relatively easy for one may be impossible for others with essentially identical symptoms. However, the definition of disability is that it significantly impairs one's ability to obtain or maintain gainful employment or to perform typical day-to-day functions. If you can operate your own business, you're not having a significant problem, so disorder or none, that doesn't qualify as a disability.

Anxiety and depression very much can cause debilitating loss of functionality, but in my experience it's the Autistic subtleties that interfere with employability. It's the very fact that coworkers perceive people with AS as 'different', even when they can't quite define what 'different' means. That the need to employ alternate methods is classified as stubborn refusal to conform . That being focused and non-social is thought of as being anti-social.

When jobs in my original long term career path started changing form and then finally drying up by the thousands, I turned to a Career Education program for the Disabled to obtain a license to perform a different job (I already held the same license in another state, but here they insisted I retake the entire training course). In spite of the fact that I completed the program, and the instructors documented that fact, they refused to license me and kicked me out of the program days before I should have graduated because of my Autism - they insisted that I magically overcome social anxiety issues (stop being Autistic) in order to become a more high-pressure salesman (which is in no way related to the job in any case). Let me say that again - I was discriminated against for my handicap in a program that was supposed to assist the disabled in finding work! And the state Board of Continuing Career Education upheld that decision, because as they told me "It's not our place to enforce the Americans With Disabilites (antidiscrimination) Act".

My point being, that I'd be more than happy to be working right now, but the state is barring me from holding a job in my chosen profession (and as I trust all of you are aware, just picking a random job out of the newspaper is not an option - personally, I've never lasted more than a month in any of those). Some of us would like to work, at least part-time, but my Autistic disability keeps me from gainful employment even when I want to work.

While there may be many people abusing the Welfare system, qualifying for Disability in the US is not a simple process. Not only do your own medical or Mental Health professionals have to vouch for you, a panel of government doctors has to decide that you really do have a legitimate problem, and they take their sweet time coming to a determination. In most cases, if you're under 50 and not on serious medication, they figure you're capable of doing something and won't even consider you. If you do get it, it's based on whether you live alone or have family or a spouse with an income that can carry part of the tab, and if you live alone (who could seriously suggest that a person disabled by a SOCIAL disorder be forced to live with a roommate?) it's barely enough to survive on - by the time they take out Medicare, it isn't enough to live on. When you shop once a month, you have to decide: bath soap or laundry soap - you can't afford both and still buy enough Ramen noodles and hot dogs to get through the month. So you can shove words like 'leech' and 'loser' where the sun don't shine - nobody wants to live in this endless luxury.

Geez Louise, do you realize how ridiculous it is for a bunch of people with a neuropsyche disorder to sit around fighting over who's the biggest loser and how "all you other Bozos don't function as well as I do, so you suck" ? It reminds me of Jack Nicholson in Cuckoo's Nest looking down his nose at all the 'looneys' he had to put up with in the Mental Institution, never realizing he was just as screwed up as the rest of them, just in a different way.

It doesn't matter HOW I managed, what matters is I did! And it was HARD! I don't have to make a case for myself here because I have nothing to prove to a complete stranger on the internet, but apparently you are making one.

Do you have any idea how long it takes to get on disability? It took my mother 4 years to get on it for bipolar. I got on it in 2 months. You can add that to your little list of impossibilities and it will make a fun little puzzle game for you to think on for the next couple of days.

How about we switch the focus off me for one second and you answer the question I posed to you twice already? How about we make a case for you? What is it about HAPPILY accepting disability checks that gets your panties in such a wad? Why should I feel shame for doing so? For some reason you feel it is perfectly acceptable for me to go examine my own thoughts and motives but you seem reluctant to do so, why is that? I already know the answer and I think you might as well, but I really want to see you admit it.

If you are capable of working and choose not to, then you are abusing the system in my eyes. If you disagree - good. It means you have an opinion. If you are legitimately disabled, then I have no issue with your being on disability. It is your attitude of glorious entitlement I find nauseating. There is no shame to being on disability; your attitude about others, however, is something I find shameful. Please try to separate my opinion on your behavior and my opinion on disability, because they are not the same.


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If your disability is the reason why you can't work than why did you write this nonsense. If you were able to obtain two degrees and say you refuse to share the knowledge you obtain, than that's a problem with your beliefs that has nothing to do with anxiety or whatever other problems you claim to be dealing with.

@Willard - Amen! (and sorry about them kicking you like that, I would be emailing congressmen and attorneys about it. Your story pisses me off just hearing it).