Three weeks in my new job and my weirdness has been noted...

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AardvarkGoodSwimmer
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22 Aug 2012, 2:18 pm

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. . . I'm a perfectionist and that slows me down, but the work is medical and for a hospital, so speed is not necessarily more important than doing it right.
Yeah, accuracy seems pretty important in medicine to me! :wink: I guess there's methods such a medium rhythm without going too fast. Staying open and alert to feedback, for even a procedure done well can go astray. Letting a medium mistake just stay a medium mistake (one of my favorites!) but I'm not sure how much that applies to medicine. I don't know. I tend to be on the slow, perfectionist side myself. But all the same . . .

On behalf of patients, thank you for being accurate. :D



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22 Aug 2012, 8:24 pm

I'll have a lot to talk about with my therapist tomorrow. That is a good point, the way the "all-user" email was worded was kind of threatening in a weird sort of way, although I suppose "threatening" is not quite the right word. To be asked to disclose my AS and almost in the same sentence say (paraphrasing here), "This information may be passed along to supervisors and determinations may be made about reassignments," made me feel very nervous.



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22 Aug 2012, 8:26 pm

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
On behalf of patients, thank you for being accurate. :D


You're welcome! Believe me, my heart's pounding as I'm trying not to go too slow and yet avoid even the remotest suggestion of a mistake at the same time. It's a tough line to walk.



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22 Aug 2012, 8:30 pm

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And pressuring people to disclose, that's not ADA. As I understand it, what ADA is, is that an employee can choose to disclose, and the company or institution needs to then make a good faith effort to find reasonable accommodations.


OH!! This is the first I've heard of the advantages of not disclosing. I have to do some research, I think.



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22 Aug 2012, 8:32 pm

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They may be just trying to cover their butts in case something happens to an employee with a disability and they are called on it—"Why didn't you provide X for them/etc.). In any case, I don't think they can require you to tell, or fire you if you don't. But I'd check up with your local job board/government agency if you feel pressured by this.


More to think about. I'm starting to lean towards not disclosing I have AS.



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22 Aug 2012, 11:06 pm

I really think it is each individual employee's choice whether or not to disclose.



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27 Aug 2012, 7:56 pm

I filled out the form today that discloses to my employer that I have AS. My therapist help me word it very carefully, so that it's clear that I'm not asking for more than I really need.

But over the years I have come close to losing my job multiple times because I haven't been able to navigate through situations with my coworkers that made no sense to me. So I made it clear that I need help with that specific problem, with HR to help me out.

We'll see how it goes. I still can't believe I finally did it. I'm still very aware that this could all go wrong and my employer might find a way to "shelve" me off into some meaningless routine, and eventually into unemployment.



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28 Aug 2012, 6:05 pm

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I filled out the form today that discloses to my employer that I have AS. My therapist help me word it very carefully, so that it's clear that I'm not asking for more than I really need.

But over the years I have come close to losing my job multiple times because I haven't been able to navigate through situations with my coworkers that made no sense to me. So I made it clear that I need help with that specific problem, with HR to help me out.

We'll see how it goes. I still can't believe I finally did it. I'm still very aware that this could all go wrong and my employer might find a way to "shelve" me off into some meaningless routine, and eventually into unemployment.


I think it will be all right. They have kept you all these years, regardless of your problems.


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28 Aug 2012, 8:34 pm

I'm new here...partly because at nearly 50 years old, I've finally figured out what's going on. ... A lifetime of being an outsider and watching every friendship or relationship eventually dissolve for reasons I've never been able to figure out. Anyway, I'm also really tired of getting weird looks like I just said something utterly *wrong* and people I hardly know acting like I'm strange or avoiding me. I feel like I go out of my way to be nice and try to make conversation, but quirky just isn't accepted. In some places, I might go for a year before it gets noticed, but I'm in a new job myself and it's not only more techy, it also requires more social skills. The social side was never brought up in the job description or the interview. Apparently, that skill is just supposed to be in the air that you breathe so it never crossed their minds to discuss it. Lack of explicit communication is rampant in this job and I'm seriously stressing out trying to figure out what everyone is "really saying". Half sentences, forgotten emails....not due to trying to leave anyone out, but because they're just used to working with social butterflies that always "drive by" and chat and who get the information verbally.

Ah...I rant. I don't have any answers. Basically, this is just a long "me too" post.



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30 Aug 2012, 8:55 pm

I feel fortunate in some ways that my employer at least seems to be providing this option for employees to disclose their disabilities, but on the other hand kind of SCARED at how cutthroat many companies seem to be, and would probably do all they could not to provide this option for their workers. I'm still not even sure how this will play out with me, but thanks for the encouragement, and I'll keep you all updated on what happens next (I officially dropped the form off at Human Resources).


cecirdr ... it's because NT's take it for granted that everyone will have those social skills. We have to learn them, though, and it isn't easy. I always think of people who are even farther along the spectrum and have full-blown autism, and how they don't have the option of learning these skills as much as those of us in the middle do.



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31 Aug 2012, 3:00 pm

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Last week, my manager called to her room me and said she is worried about me. Supposedly, I look like I have my head in the clouds. She said that it is not a warning, because I do a good job and everybody in the office (including the boss) likes me. But she says I should be careful about that kind of behavior.

I spent most of my weekend with that in my mind, but I have no idea what I should do to disguise my aloofness. Eventually, I stopped worrying about it, but today she mentioned the problem while me and a coworker who is teaching me some new tasks were talking to her. She asked him what he thought about me and (fortunately) he said he did not agree with her and that I am doing a very good job.

Despite that, it is clear that my manager is satisfied with me (she even said it to me). Besides, in all of my previous jobs people eventually realized there is something wrong with, but, since it never affected my performance, they never seemed to bother with it. Therefore, I am not worried about losing my job, because the chances of that happening are very low. Yes, I am very confident about things like work and education. 8)

What bothers me is that it happens every. Freaking. Time. And it is not only at work; in every social situation I have ever been through, like school, gym and acting classes, it takes a ridiculously short ammount of time for people to realize that I am unusual. They rarely tell me, but it is always clear.

Sorry, it was a long rant and I am whining about a problem that has no solution. Besides, I am not even sure if this is the right place to post this (I was in doubt between here, the Haven and the Social Skills forums).


Welcome to the club my friend.....in the past, we'd be seen as eccentrics and if a movie was made about us, we'd be played by Johnny Depp. Just smile and be nice, try your best to listen, and be polite, and wait till you're really comfortable and you can trust someone before making really tasteless jokes, I usually give it a few months before I start creeping people out with my humor.


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31 Aug 2012, 7:10 pm

knowbody15 wrote:
Welcome to the club my friend.....in the past, we'd be seen as eccentrics and if a movie was made about us, we'd be played by Johnny Depp. Just smile and be nice, try your best to listen, and be polite, and wait till you're really comfortable and you can trust someone before making really tasteless jokes, I usually give it a few months before I start creeping people out with my humor.


Yeah, I do have a very tasteless sense of humour. It also takes a few months for it to show itself, but once it does, I cannot control it. I am a very strange person. :cry:

However, it would be awesome if Johnny Depp starred in a biopic about me. :D


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01 Sep 2012, 2:38 am

Magnus_Rex wrote:
Last week, my manager called to her room me and said she is worried about me. Supposedly, I look like I have my head in the clouds. She said that it is not a warning, because I do a good job and everybody in the office (including the boss) likes me. But she says I should be careful about that kind of behavior.

I spent most of my weekend with that in my mind, but I have no idea what I should do to disguise my aloofness. Eventually, I stopped worrying about it, but today she mentioned the problem while me and a coworker who is teaching me some new tasks were talking to her. She asked him what he thought about me and (fortunately) he said he did not agree with her and that I am doing a very good job.

Despite that, it is clear that my manager is satisfied with me (she even said it to me). Besides, in all of my previous jobs people eventually realized there is something wrong with, but, since it never affected my performance, they never seemed to bother with it. Therefore, I am not worried about losing my job, because the chances of that happening are very low. Yes, I am very confident about things like work and education. 8)

What bothers me is that it happens every. Freaking. Time. And it is not only at work; in every social situation I have ever been through, like school, gym and acting classes, it takes a ridiculously short ammount of time for people to realize that I am unusual. They rarely tell me, but it is always clear.

Sorry, it was a long rant and I am whining about a problem that has no solution. Besides, I am not even sure if this is the right place to post this (I was in doubt between here, the Haven and the Social Skills forums).




Plant your hand on your chin and make it look like you are thinking. Make it a habit.

Trust me, fools them every time.

At least you look aloof. I get told I look like I am going to show up with an arsenal and shoot the place up. 8O



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01 Sep 2012, 9:01 am

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Plant your hand on your chin and make it look like you are thinking. Make it a habit.

Trust me, fools them every time.

At least you look aloof. I get told I look like I am going to show up with an arsenal and shoot the place up. 8O


I used to do this a lot in high school. People called me "The Phisolopher" (it was intentionally misspelled).


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16 Sep 2012, 2:37 pm

Body Language brah

that and smiling

and manners

if you honestly still get s**t after that they just playing you



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16 Sep 2012, 5:02 pm

It does not matter anymore; I overreacted. When I completed 45 days on the job, I was told that I will be promoted. I do not know when (although I suspect it will be when I complete my 90-days experience contract - one month and four days from today).

I still dislike the fact that my weirdness is obvious, but I should stop worrying about it. It is pretty obvious that it is not going to affect my career, even though it makes for a very sh***y social/personal life. I am working on it, though. I am going to try something in a few days, even though I am 99% sure it will not work. Most certainly due to my weirdness. :?


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Sorry for this terrible joke, by the way.