Skills downplayed, "interpersonal" side overblown

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MissMoneypenny
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11 Mar 2013, 9:02 am

Unfortunately, other jobs all want the same "Personality Factor X". Unless I can find a way into some other type of work completely where being Mrs. Data isn't a big deal, I'll just end up getting more of the same at another organization. And where I won't have the modicum of protection I have here through racking up several years' service and someone could then just make sure I don't pass the 6 month's probation.

And no, I'm never grumpy. Just invisible. Or so it feels, until THEY want something.



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11 Mar 2013, 5:11 pm

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So now I'm about to be sent to the firm's occupational health service, where there is no guarantee there will be anyone who has the first clue about ASD's. I'll probably end up talking to some "counsellor" who thinks they can coach or headshrink me into being more "normal". They would be far from the first who have tried.


I was referred to OH by HR a month after I went off work sick with stress - a "management referral" and I was worried by this, but I have found them very helpful. To be more specific, I found the OH nurse OK but after a couple of months she referred me to an OH doctor because I was a "complicated case", and I have found the OH doctor extremely helpful. I have been seeing the OH doctor almost every month for a year or so now and during that time she has helped by suggesting various adjustments that might help at work (which have been put in place ... it's been a process of trial and error and some have worked better than others). I do have co-morbid mental health issues but at work it is the ASD that primarily affects me, and she seems to understand this (I'm not sure how much experience she has with ASDs but she listens and seems to understand what I'm saying and is very supportive).

I have heard horror stories about OH services, but they're not all bad and I hope yours is OK.


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12 Mar 2013, 5:05 am

Thanks, Yellowbanana. I just hope that the OH people realise that it's not counselling I need (I'm quite comfortable in my own skin thank you), I just need a quiet place to sit and work where I'm not distracted/interrupted constantly, and to be appreciated for my skills and knowledge instead of having some personality thing that I don't understand demanded.



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12 Mar 2013, 11:00 am

I believe Tyrion is right. You have given specific incidents and I may have some ideas. Tyrion, I am giving suggestions myself. Am I correct so far or am I way off track?

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OK, I'm back. To answer the question about my current employment situation, I work in a law office with minimal direct client interaction.

It's very difficult to give specific examples, because the people concerned are themselves very poor at giving specific examples.

The few examples I have been given, I'm sure you'll agree, are lame beyond belief. Things like how I didn't cc in one boss when I emailed as an attachment a letter to an outside party that he had signed and asked me to send, or how I'm supposed to have misinterpreted instructions on a couple of occasions. One time we were supposed to have an office clearout, but the clearing-out party we were going to have one evening never took place in the end, and one person made a fuss because she had a small pile of documents she'd wanted shredded. She could have asked me, or even walked a few paces outside her door to where there's a confidential shredding bin.


Here is the thing on this. Some people want to feel appreciated and want to know that you care. My question for you is why didn't you offer to shred the documents for her? How long would that have taken? I have had to learn this with my wife as well when she asks if I know what time a store closes. My natural response is to say "No, I do not."

My wife hates that and I have had to realize it. It is difficult for me but when she asks me if I know something and if I do not know I ask her if she wants me to find out. Taking and Showing Initiative means doing or volunteering to do something without being asked to do it. This is what some people want from you. By stating "She could have asked me, or even walked a few paces outside her door to where there's a confidential shredding bin" you have the expectation that she should ask you. This shows lack of initiative. By volunteering and offering to help her out with the shredding you show initiative. This is what they mean here by showing initiative and this is one example of where they are saying you lack initiative.

The purpose of taking and showing initiative is to show that you care not only about your job but your co-workers and management.

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Other complaints are as a result of events that have only unfolded that way because of their own actions. For example, this same woman who wanted the shredding done sent me an email saying she needed a document formatted urgently.
It was already late in the afternoon and I was already completely under the cosh trying to finish compiling a report that the head of our department needed in front of him to run through with the client by international conference call. I explained what I was in the middle of and said I had no capacity, and needed to finish what I was doing without getting side-tracked as the head honcho and this important client had already started their phone call, but in about 10 minutes' time I would liaise with the night secretary and explain to her what needed to be done. When I had finished the report and passed it to the department head, I immediately called the night secretary as promised, only for her to tell me she was already working on it! Not only did this woman choose to bypass me in this way, but she made a complaint that I hadn't "been responsive" and ensured she was serviced straight away.



If Tyrion is correct, I believe this is what you should've done. First, I would've taken a deep breath. Second, I would've told this woman "Mam, I have a major project that is in the hopper now that I am working on. It is a priority #1 now. " After that I would've said, "when do you need this formatted by exactly because if I have to I will stay late or take the document home and format it there?" Finally, I would've said "I do have a sick boyfriend and I do need to take care of him and if it is possible I would prefer to take it home and I will work on it at home."
Is this what they call passive-aggressive?

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Everything else is "explained" to me in very general terms, such as that they want to see more "initiative" and "proactivitity", whatever they mean by that. However, I'm already so stretched working for 8 people that it's a constant battle to keep the urgent and important work turned around on time (a situation of which they are aware). Experience has shown that if I show my face at someone's door too often, they'll assume I'm not busy and will load me up with fiddly, nitpicky tasks that I don't always feel confident doing and really don't have time to accommodate anyway. Even when there is a lull period, I really NEED that time to play catch-up and recoup my personal energy resources.


Examine your workplace setting now. Are there things that need to be done on a recurring basis? Offer to do them for folks whenever you can. Let's say you're the first person there. Go ahead and make coffee. If you see things in the break room as messy straighten it up. If you see someone struggling with something offer to help. If one of your co-workers has to stay every night to get something done offer to help them out by doing it for them every week or so as a favor even if your not paid for it.

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I think others cope with the workload and ridiculously overstretched professional/support ratios by staying late into the evening but that isn't an option as I look after my sick partner evenings and weekends. And yes, someone made a fuss about that too when I got a phone call saying my bf was ill and I had to leave on time.


Was this an emergency situation? How sick is your bf? Does he have the flu or a cold? Like Tyrion said, is it possible to get someone else to look after him? Can he look after himself? Is he bedridden? If you have to be there with your bf can you take your work home with you and work on it and every so often check in on him?



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12 Mar 2013, 11:11 am

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It defence of the OP pretty sure "but in about 10 minutes' time I would liaise with the night secretary and explain to her what needed to be done." is "trying to negotiate alternatives when there's a conflict'' so she did conduct herself properly. In my opinion the colleague was making unreasonable demands and was actually being passive aggressive about the way she managed the issue.


The problem is she did not show or act like she cared.

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Furthermore, many 'lawyers' do typically stay late until their work is done...but I could be wrong but I don't think she is a lawyer and therefore, it is highly unlikely that she is getting paid a wage worth warranting going above and beyond the standard job description of working the prescribed hours, nor would she be wanting to climb up the corporate ladder to become a partner as is in the forefront of most lawyers minds when they're bending over backwards for their employers. Miss moneypenny has a sick boyfriend, her work should be supporting her more, if anything, not chastising her for not being able to stay late to try and meet their unrealistic demands. People have lives outside work, and especially if they're caring for a sick relative or partner, or are sick themselves then the work should be trying to support them and not the other way around.


I do agree. I would've attempted to make a compromise so we can all win.

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I don't know why you think she's got a bad attitude at work, I didn't see anything in her posts that implied that and even if she did well maybe it's because she's worried about her partner, and people are treating her like dirt! And IF you were my boss, I'd think you were an as*hole! May you never have anything to manage outside your work which affects your ability to put 110% in your work life, because then you might be really sorry that you set such high expectations of yourself and others.


Unfortunately, to them she does. To them, it looks like she doesn't care. This is why I would've tried to compromise as best as possible to show that I do. Missmoneypenny sounds like she was abrupt. This is not good because it shows she does not care. Whether this is true or not is irrelevant. Personally, I don't like it myself but in the workplace perception counts more than what actually is. Yes, it is stupid but there is nothing I can do about it. Ultimately, she needs to find a way to show she does care about the people there.

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To Missmoneypenny, it doesn't sound like a very pleasant environment for you to be working in, and I suggest you start looking for work elsewhere. It seems to be you're being bullied and having worked in a place like that I know it's not a good thing for your state of mind and it's the last thing you need when you've got family problems and everything else to deal with.


If she can't do my suggestions, I will have to agree with you and Tyrion and that is to move on and find another job or do other things to support yourself.

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12 Mar 2013, 11:19 am

MissMoneypenny wrote:
Thanks, Yellowbanana. I just hope that the OH people realise that it's not counselling I need (I'm quite comfortable in my own skin thank you), I just need a quiet place to sit and work where I'm not distracted/interrupted constantly, and to be appreciated for my skills and knowledge instead of having some personality thing that I don't understand demanded.


No, don't do that. This comes across as though your high maintenance and inflexible. I would take the counseling that they offer you. I would tell the counselor what your thoughts and feelings are and I would apologize for any offense I have committed. I would tell this counselor what you have said here. I would ask for constructive feedback on it. Do not demand but use your asking voice. Try to keep it a bit calm and mellow. I would ask your counselor what can I do to improve my relationship with others here?

You have to show that you are willing to do things yourself as well for others in your team and work environment.

I'm going to be honest with you as well. I do not believe there is a major difference between the underlying philosophies of the different employers. Basically, you have your choice amongst kodos and kang (simpsons).

When they state get a different job I do not think this will make a difference whatsoever.