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21 Oct 2014, 7:06 pm

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New York is a great place.

And it's very safe in the areas where tourists frequent (basically, Manhattan below 125th street on the West Side, and below 96th Street on the East Side, and a small part of Brooklyn). You have to watch out for people who want to scam you, though.


If I ever made the trip, the first thing I would do is go to the Morgan Library & Museum:

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Pierpont Morgan collected a large number of ancient Near Eastern artifacts that I would love to see:

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21 Oct 2014, 7:16 pm

Excellent choice! I've been there twice.

I was going to college at the time (when I was in my late 30's). A most transcendent experience!

With your sense of aesthetics, I can glean that you want more than merely "humping" kinds of interactions with men. I'm sorry you haven't had great experience so far.

You're a very intelligent person. In the old days, I think you would have thrived in "lyceum" type clubs in cities. Within these clubs, there would be literary and philosophical-type discussions. And lectures galore. They were great places to meet people of the opposite sex.

Then there was the Chataqua (spelling?) movement, which was basically the same thing, except in more rural areas.

It's a pity that Popular Culture (not all is bad with Popular Culture, let me emphasize that) has taken over. I truly think you would have been more successful in the late 19th-early 20th century in urban aras.



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21 Oct 2014, 7:35 pm

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Excellent choice! I've been there twice.

I was going to college at the time (when I was in my late 30's). A most transcendent experience!

Ooh ... I bet!

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With your sense of aesthetics, I can glean that you want more than merely "humping" kinds of interactions with men. I'm sorry you haven't had great experience so far.

You're a very intelligent person. In the old days, I think you would have thrived in "lyceum" type clubs in cities. Within these clubs, there would be literary and philosophical-type discussions. And lectures galore. They were great places to meet people of the opposite sex.


Thank you for your kind words. And your shared interest in artifacts.

The lyceum sounds like a great place. Maybe there will be a revival of them.

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I truly think you would have been more successful in the late 19th-early 20th century in urban areas.


Not if I was autistic ... I don't do so well without medication. And the medication I take wasn't invented then. I would have probably ended up in a sanatorium.



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21 Oct 2014, 7:35 pm

You're actually nearer to NYC than Toronto.

You're on the "other side" of the Thousand Islands. Alexandria Bay, NY, is about a five-hour drive to NYC. And it's a nice, straight drive, too.

You could do it on the cheap, too.

Last week, I was able to drive from Orlando, FL, to NYC on only about six pieces of chicken for a 16-hour drive.



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21 Oct 2014, 7:40 pm

I'm thinking:

Like me, maybe you would have been a successful "eccentric."

Maybe, within that environment, you might not have needed medication.

I think, to a certain extent, that the stressors of "modern" life lead one to need medication.



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21 Oct 2014, 7:40 pm

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You're actually nearer to NYC than Toronto.

Cool, I did not know that.
I wouldn't cross a puddle to visit Toronto.

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You're on the "other side" of the Thousand Islands. Alexandria Bay, NY, is about a five-hour drive to NYC. And it's a nice, straight drive, too.

And a beautiful one, especially this time of year with the leaves changing.

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You could do it on the cheap, too.

Last week, I was able to drive from Orlando, FL, to NYC on only about six pieces of chicken for a 16-hour drive.


That's a long drive. Anything over an hour and I prefer the train. There is something so soothing about its rhythm.



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21 Oct 2014, 7:43 pm

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I'm thinking:

Like me, maybe you would have been a successful "eccentric."

Maybe, within that environment, you might not have needed medication.

I think, to a certain extent, that the stressors of "modern" life lead one to need medication.


Hard to know, so many variables.



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21 Oct 2014, 7:44 pm

By the way, at the Morgan, if you're interested in the history of music, there are musical notations which were written about the 11th Century in Europe. Very different from the musical notation of today!

Have you ever gone into its website?

The Morgan also has what are called "cartoon" versions of various paintings--one of which, if I recall correctly, was of a Rubens painting. From what I what gather, a 'cartoon" is a painting's "outline."



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21 Oct 2014, 7:49 pm

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By the way, at the Morgan, if you're interested in the history of music, there are musical notations which were written about the 11th Century in Europe. Very different from the musical notation of today!

Have you ever gone into its website?

The Morgan also has what are called "cartoon" versions of various paintings--one of which, if I recall correctly, was of a Rubens painting. From what I what gather, a 'cartoon" is a painting's "outline."


Cool. I did browse the site ... I notice they've got some gorgeous illuminated manuscripts as well.



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21 Oct 2014, 8:01 pm

Yep...they certainly do.

That's what monks used to do with their time away from prayer and various labors;

Produce illuminated manuscripts. In painstaking detail. Talent in visual arts was essential. You had to have a sense of perspective.

If they screwed up, there was no white-out, or spell check, etc. LOL

Sometimes, the "screw-ups" could be funny.



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21 Oct 2014, 8:12 pm

Plus before Gutenberg, copying was the only way to preserve the literature. Did you ever see "The Name of the Rose" with Sean Connery - it take place in a monastery. It was good.



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21 Oct 2014, 8:16 pm

I would be interested in that.

I visited the Cloisters when I was 15. For a while, I wanted to be a monk---despite the fact that I was a confirmed agnostic even then!

I still have a slight yearning to live in an Irish monastery on the sea. I enjoy contemplating waves as they do their dances over the rocks. In the 6th century or so, Irish monks used to sleep on stone slab-type things.



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21 Oct 2014, 8:20 pm

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I visited the Cloisters when I was 15. For a while, I wanted to be a monk---despite the fact that I was a confirmed agnostic even then!


There's a massive convent close to where I live - huge piece of land right in the city. I've often thought it would be a nice life to spend one's days in contemplation - I usually do anyway, but my setting isn't as nice. But I could never get behind Catholicism.



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21 Oct 2014, 8:36 pm

There's one thing I'm interested in which I haven't studied much: the theology of the "Dark Ages." There were many "heretical" sects in those days, prominent amongst these "Arianism," which gave rise to that simplest of words (perhaps a phrase?) which, if you spelled it correctly, marked you as smart:

Antidisestablishmentarianism or Antidisestablishment Arianism

For the most part, these sects had notions related to Jesus' divinity or lack thereof--in a hierarchy ranging from purely human to purely "God."

I hope you get to meet decent people in Tim Horton's.

I wouldn't mind meeting you some day as well. It would be cool if I were to just walk into Tim Horton's and see you. I wouldn't surprise you, though LOL.



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21 Oct 2014, 8:45 pm

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I hope you get to meet decent people in Tim Horton's.

I wouldn't mind meeting you some day as well. It would be cool if I were to just walk into Tim Horton's and see you. I wouldn't surprise you, though LOL.


Likewise... maybe we will, we're not that far from each other.



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21 Oct 2014, 9:49 pm

When I think of the toucan, I think of Froot Loops.

Remember the commercial where you "followed your nose?" to get to the Froot Loops?