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27 Sep 2015, 12:48 am

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I complained that me working with old people in my last job was boring. My dad then said to me "well fair enough but young people take the piss out of you'

Do you think my dad makes a good point or is understandable as a young person not wanting to hang out with really old people.


I turned 26 two days ago


In the United States a good nurse is an RN. You mostly see an RN in a hospital.

The CNA wipes asses and the LPN is just better than the CNA but the LPN gives out meds.

The RN goes through the most schooling and it's very hard to become an RN.

You mostly see CNAs in nursing homes with LPNs. Rarely an RN will work in a nursing home but it could mean the end of her career and all the money in college. If something goes wrong in your shift and your CNA or your LPN does something wrong or perhaps the old man or lady has nothing better to do but complain and they call public health you can lose your license forever.

That's why you don't see doctors going into geriatrics and nurses stay away from nursing homes like the plague.



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27 Sep 2015, 12:21 pm

I thinking working is a crazy concept doing something you hate on most days of the week


Work should be something you enjoy because you spend most of your life doing it and you only live once :(



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27 Sep 2015, 12:58 pm

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...while being too overqualified for retail, food services and other "low end" jobs.

Believe you me, I have definitely been told I am over qualified for "low end", while not being experienced enough for unpaid internships and entry level jobs.

So lie about your experience. If a skill or experience isn't relevant to the job you are applying for don't mention it. Just play up the skills you have that pertain to the job. Lots of people work "low end" jobs while looking for something else.

Nearly every job comes with background checks and searches.
Lying won't do you any good these days.

Part of background checks includes the following:
*criminal checks
*employment history checks
*Google searches
*education checks
*social media checks
*linkedin checks
*family checks

You literally cannot hide anything these days with extensive background checks.
Many of my fellow peers were fired after their first internships for being too qualified for those "low end" jobs. Most were let go the minute they graduated from college, because they were now over qualified.

post graduation, most of my peers are unemployed cause they cannot get employed for the "low end" job nor can they find entry level work!

I'm not going to shutdown my website, delete my extensive LinkedIn profile, try and hide my education records, hide by activities in TedX and other clubs, and lastly I'm not going to try and hide my membership in the international Business honors society (BGS)!

This would do more damage to me long term.

None of the older adults I know who,were laid off including my dad could successfully pass the background checks to work a "low end" job due to all the information that existed. None of the information was bad.

Companies don't want to be stuck with people who don't plan on sticking around for long time.
They want to reduce turnover which in turn saves them a big amount of mines.

I've literally been told I lack the experiences in "low end" industries, while the background checks confirmed the information about me.
I've also been told I'm too smart and will go on to bigger and better things, thus not worth hiring by a retail manager.

Lying doesn't work when they can get ahold of any information not protected by law!(medical records, government benefits, and stuff of that nature)

Have employers gone off the deep end? hell yes!

If you're caught lying about your history. You are terminated on the spot and the company has the right to sue you over it.


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27 Sep 2015, 1:49 pm

xenocity wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
...while being too overqualified for retail, food services and other "low end" jobs.

Believe you me, I have definitely been told I am over qualified for "low end", while not being experienced enough for unpaid internships and entry level jobs.

So lie about your experience. If a skill or experience isn't relevant to the job you are applying for don't mention it. Just play up the skills you have that pertain to the job. Lots of people work "low end" jobs while looking for something else.

Nearly every job comes with background checks and searches.
Lying won't do you any good these days.

Part of background checks includes the following:
*criminal checks
*employment history checks
*Google searches
*education checks
*social media checks
*linkedin checks
*family checks

You literally cannot hide anything these days with extensive background checks.
Many of my fellow peers were fired after their first internships for being too qualified for those "low end" jobs. Most were let go the minute they graduated from college, because they were now over qualified.

post graduation, most of my peers are unemployed cause they cannot get employed for the "low end" job nor can they find entry level work!

I'm not going to shutdown my website, delete my extensive LinkedIn profile, try and hide my education records, hide by activities in TedX and other clubs, and lastly I'm not going to try and hide my membership in the international Business honors society (BGS)!

This would do more damage to me long term.

None of the older adults I know who,were laid off including my dad could successfully pass the background checks to work a "low end" job due to all the information that existed. None of the information was bad.

Companies don't want to be stuck with people who don't plan on sticking around for long time.
They want to reduce turnover which in turn saves them a big amount of mines.

I've literally been told I lack the experiences in "low end" industries, while the background checks confirmed the information about me.
I've also been told I'm too smart and will go on to bigger and better things, thus not worth hiring by a retail manager.

Lying doesn't work when they can get ahold of any information not protected by law!(medical records, government benefits, and stuff of that nature)

Have employers gone off the deep end? hell yes!

If you're caught lying about your history. You are terminated on the spot and the company has the right to sue you over it.


As the millennial's are now taking over the work place most lazy baby boomers who switched HR into a robotic payroll department that screens via an automated resume checker for key words no longer can employers ignore workers who are rather mercenary not staying very long at any job.

Due to the economy employees shift around quiet often and for those of us who were getting in the door during the 2009 crash it was another lesson if your job is looking to out source or off shore you could have a case of a massive amount of people quiting.



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27 Sep 2015, 2:38 pm

xenocity wrote:
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If a skill or experience isn't relevant to the job you are applying for don't mention it. Just play up the skills you have that pertain to the job. Lots of people work "low end" jobs while looking for something else.
Nearly every job comes with background checks and searches...
Lying won't do you any good these days.

Depends what kind of job you are applying for. Some companies have a high turnover rate and they really don't care. They just want a body there.



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27 Sep 2015, 2:42 pm

HisShadowX wrote:
xenocity wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
...while being too overqualified for retail, food services and other "low end" jobs.

Believe you me, I have definitely been told I am over qualified for "low end", while not being experienced enough for unpaid internships and entry level jobs.

So lie about your experience. If a skill or experience isn't relevant to the job you are applying for don't mention it. Just play up the skills you have that pertain to the job. Lots of people work "low end" jobs while looking for something else.

Nearly every job comes with background checks and searches.
Lying won't do you any good these days.

Part of background checks includes the following:
*criminal checks
*employment history checks
*Google searches
*education checks
*social media checks
*linkedin checks
*family checks

You literally cannot hide anything these days with extensive background checks.
Many of my fellow peers were fired after their first internships for being too qualified for those "low end" jobs. Most were let go the minute they graduated from college, because they were now over qualified.

post graduation, most of my peers are unemployed cause they cannot get employed for the "low end" job nor can they find entry level work!

I'm not going to shutdown my website, delete my extensive LinkedIn profile, try and hide my education records, hide by activities in TedX and other clubs, and lastly I'm not going to try and hide my membership in the international Business honors society (BGS)!

This would do more damage to me long term.

None of the older adults I know who,were laid off including my dad could successfully pass the background checks to work a "low end" job due to all the information that existed. None of the information was bad.

Companies don't want to be stuck with people who don't plan on sticking around for long time.
They want to reduce turnover which in turn saves them a big amount of mines.

I've literally been told I lack the experiences in "low end" industries, while the background checks confirmed the information about me.
I've also been told I'm too smart and will go on to bigger and better things, thus not worth hiring by a retail manager.

Lying doesn't work when they can get ahold of any information not protected by law!(medical records, government benefits, and stuff of that nature)

Have employers gone off the deep end? hell yes!

If you're caught lying about your history. You are terminated on the spot and the company has the right to sue you over it.


As the millennial's are now taking over the work place most lazy baby boomers who switched HR into a robotic payroll department that screens via an automated resume checker for key words no longer can employers ignore workers who are rather mercenary not staying very long at any job.

Due to the economy employees shift around quiet often and for those of us who were getting in the door during the 2009 crash it was another lesson if your job is looking to out source or off shore you could have a case of a massive amount of people quiting.

That too.
Companies big and small now outsource the intake of new applications and resumes to staffing companies.
These staffing companies choose which resumes get sent on to company's HR people.
HR then screens them further to determine before sending them to the hiring people.
You no longer interact with those in the department you are hiring into, let alone those giving the interviews.
Those who do the interviews and hiring are typically from HR instead of the department you will be hired into.

Also companies don't want to train you and let you adjust.
You are expected to do everything on the first day.


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27 Sep 2015, 2:45 pm

androbot01 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
If a skill or experience isn't relevant to the job you are applying for don't mention it. Just play up the skills you have that pertain to the job. Lots of people work "low end" jobs while looking for something else.
Nearly every job comes with background checks and searches...
Lying won't do you any good these days.

Depends what kind of job you are applying for. Some companies have a high turnover rate and they really don't care. They just want a body there.

I have yet to find listings for these jobs or companies who behave like this.


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27 Sep 2015, 2:53 pm

xenocity wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
If a skill or experience isn't relevant to the job you are applying for don't mention it. Just play up the skills you have that pertain to the job. Lots of people work "low end" jobs while looking for something else.
Nearly every job comes with background checks and searches...
Lying won't do you any good these days.

Depends what kind of job you are applying for. Some companies have a high turnover rate and they really don't care. They just want a body there.

I have yet to find listings for these jobs or companies who behave like this.

What listings are you looking at?



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27 Sep 2015, 2:58 pm

androbot01 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
If a skill or experience isn't relevant to the job you are applying for don't mention it. Just play up the skills you have that pertain to the job. Lots of people work "low end" jobs while looking for something else.
Nearly every job comes with background checks and searches...
Lying won't do you any good these days.

Depends what kind of job you are applying for. Some companies have a high turnover rate and they really don't care. They just want a body there.

I have yet to find listings for these jobs or companies who behave like this.

What listings are you looking at?

The different career sites and craigslist.
I use sites including LinkedIn, Indeed.com and many others I have accounts on which are supposed to be the best to use.
I also use craigslist, because yeah you can actually land a decent job on there too.
I quite with my school's site, because it was useless.

Don't tell me to look in one of the local papers, because job listings are dead in them from everything going digital.


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27 Sep 2015, 3:10 pm

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The different career sites and craigslist.
I use sites including LinkedIn, Indeed.com and many others I have accounts on which are supposed to be the best to use.
I also use craigslist, because yeah you can actually land a decent job on there too.
I quite with my school's site, because it was useless.

Don't tell me to look in one of the local papers, because job listings are dead in them from everything going digital.


Indeed is how I got my current job. I was working as a cleaner in an employment program and posted my resume on Indeed. My boss found me. I didn't realize it at the time, but I had an old resume on there that listed my university degree. She found it too, but didn't care that I was educated.

Are you open to working in jobs not in your field ... the so called "low jobs?"



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27 Sep 2015, 3:16 pm

androbot01 wrote:
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The different career sites and craigslist.
I use sites including LinkedIn, Indeed.com and many others I have accounts on which are supposed to be the best to use.
I also use craigslist, because yeah you can actually land a decent job on there too.
I quite with my school's site, because it was useless.

Don't tell me to look in one of the local papers, because job listings are dead in them from everything going digital.


Indeed is how I got my current job. I was working as a cleaner in an employment program and posted my resume on Indeed. My boss found me. I didn't realize it at the time, but I had an old resume on there that listed my university degree. She found it too, but didn't care that I was educated.

Are you open to working in jobs not in your field ... the so called "low jobs?"

I've interviewed for jobs not in my field and have gotten the lecture from the interviewers for applying for jobs outside of my field.

To be fair I've been told by professionals and some who actually work in HR that working outside your field is very damaging for your career because it shows you aren't serious about the field to potential employers.


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27 Sep 2015, 3:20 pm

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To be fair I've been told by professionals and some who actually work in HR that working outside your field is very damaging for your career because it shows you aren't serious about the field to potential employers.

Fair enough.

Jamesy wrote:
I thinking working is a crazy concept doing something you hate on most days of the week


Work should be something you enjoy because you spend most of your life doing it and you only live once :(

No kidding ... there are a few people who do enjoy their work. I think they are the minority. Most people are wage whores. Gotta eat.



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27 Sep 2015, 5:48 pm

androbot01 wrote:
xenocity wrote:
To be fair I've been told by professionals and some who actually work in HR that working outside your field is very damaging for your career because it shows you aren't serious about the field to potential employers.

Fair enough.

Jamesy wrote:
I thinking working is a crazy concept doing something you hate on most days of the week


Work should be something you enjoy because you spend most of your life doing it and you only live once :(

No kidding ... there are a few people who do enjoy their work. I think they are the minority. Most people are wage whores. Gotta eat.





spend the majority of the week working with people that annoy you and only have 2 days in a week (sometimes even less) and one 6 week holiday a year to properly enjoy the things you have worked so hard for. Sucks :(

I suppose I have a rather warped view of life since I have been pampered by parents for most of my existence.



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29 Sep 2015, 12:22 pm

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If you want me to be honest i dont really want to work and rely on my parents to be breadwinners


What do you do with yourself all day? Why should you be exempted from earning a living? What if your parents kick you out?



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29 Sep 2015, 3:10 pm

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If you want me to be honest i dont really want to work and rely on my parents to be breadwinners


What do you do with yourself all day? Why should you be exempted from earning a living? What if your parents kick you out?


Another thing to keep in mind is that your parents aren't going to live forever.



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30 Sep 2015, 6:11 pm

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If you want me to be honest i dont really want to work and rely on my parents to be breadwinners


What do you do with yourself all day? Why should you be exempted from earning a living? What if your parents kick you out?




I go to the gym and mooch around town all day watching the world go by. Because that's what comes naturally to me.

Why should I be exempted from earning a living you ask? Because it ain't good for my mental health that's why.