Do not go into Information Technology if you have an ASD

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09 Jul 2018, 9:39 pm

cubedemon6073 said, "It pains me to say this but the truth is if you have an ASD do not go into IT."

I tend to disagree. There are many different types of jobs in the IT area and some Aspies are highly qualified to work in this area. They are not all help desk jobs.

I agree with Fnord on this one where he said sarcastically. "I guess I'll have to dismiss over half of my IT department as being unsuitable for their jobs!" I was in charge with a support branch that included an IT group. The work can be very challenging and provide good paying jobs.


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09 Jul 2018, 10:35 pm

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cubedemon6073 said, "It pains me to say this but the truth is if you have an ASD do not go into IT."

I tend to disagree. There are many different types of jobs in the IT area and some Aspies are highly qualified to work in this area. They are not all help desk jobs.

I agree with Fnord on this one where he said sarcastically. "I guess I'll have to dismiss over half of my IT department as being unsuitable for their jobs!" I was in charge with a support branch that included an IT group. The work can be very challenging and provide good paying jobs.


Well, the application process and job search is a nightmare for any job. Thanks, but no thanks.



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10 Jul 2018, 9:58 am

LOTS of things I read about Aspies says we do good in the tech industry. When I mentioned Aspergers on dating sites, the only messages I got were asking me if I was in the tech field cuz they were expecting me to be really good at it. & they all quit chatting with me when I told em I wasn't & most of those women didn't work in that industry & some even mentioned how they weren't that good with tech stuff in their messages. I guess they were expecting me to make lots of money with it or something.


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11 Jul 2018, 1:07 pm

It really depends on which type of IT job.

These statistics are my estimations:
Helpdesk: 100% yes there will be constant communication
Programmers/Software engineers: 95% no there won't be communication unless spoken other workers on a group project.
Network Admins/Engineers (Working with Routers and Switches): 70% no / 30% yes There will still be communication but only to other workers.
Cybersecurity Analyst: 60% no / 40% yes
Repair Technician: 50/50

So I disagree. It's really the helpdesk to stay away from. Most other IT jobs, you're just talking to co-workers and you'll get used to them, no customer intervention necessary.



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11 Jul 2018, 1:19 pm

nick007 wrote:
LOTS of things I read about Aspies says we do good in the tech industry. When I mentioned Aspergers on dating sites, the only messages I got were asking me if I was in the tech field cuz they were expecting me to be really good at it. & they all quit chatting with me when I told em I wasn't & most of those women didn't work in that industry & some even mentioned how they weren't that good with tech stuff in their messages. I guess they were expecting me to make lots of money with it or something.


IMO it's more like don't go into tech unless you can stand constantly being judged over not being a millionaire yet. The main reason I can stand it is just hacking all the time. I have cool stuff to show for my toil even though I'm underpaid & overworked.

We're equally burdened & privileged to know things most others won't glimpse in a lifetime.


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11 Jul 2018, 1:38 pm

I like infotech. It's easier to handle than people.

There is no reason behind statements like "People with ASDs should never get involved with InfoTech". It's like saying "People with diabetes should never go scuba diving" -- there simply is no connection.


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11 Jul 2018, 2:41 pm

Fnord wrote:
I like infotech. It's easier to handle than people.

There is no reason behind statements like "People with ASDs should never get involved with InfoTech". It's like saying "People with diabetes should never go scuba diving" -- there simply is no connection.


Interesting!



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13 Jul 2018, 8:15 am

Sorry dude but this topic is wrong. because I'm software developer and happy with it.
co-workers are full of geek/aspie also.

So programmer/developer and tester jobs are good for aspie.

But yeah helpdesk / system analyst / project co-ordinator is hell for aspie



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13 Jul 2018, 9:05 am

Coder Rebirth wrote:
Sorry dude but this topic is wrong. because I'm software developer and happy with it.
co-workers are full of geek/aspie also.

So programmer/developer and tester jobs are good for aspie.

But yeah helpdesk / system analyst / project co-ordinator is hell for aspie


Hey man, maybe you're right and I'm wrong. I notice you live in Bangkok Thailand. I've not thought of this but maybe part of the reason I've had difficulties finding an IT job is location. Are you a native to Thailand or an expat? I'm just curious.



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13 Jul 2018, 10:07 am

I'm happy they rescued all those kids and that coach from that cave in Chiang Rai.

Chiang Rai is a nice location with a nice climate.



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13 Jul 2018, 11:05 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
Coder Rebirth wrote:
Sorry dude but this topic is wrong. because I'm software developer and happy with it.
co-workers are full of geek/aspie also.

So programmer/developer and tester jobs are good for aspie.

But yeah helpdesk / system analyst / project co-ordinator is hell for aspie


Hey man, maybe you're right and I'm wrong. I notice you live in Bangkok Thailand. I've not thought of this but maybe part of the reason I've had difficulties finding an IT job is location. Are you a native to Thailand or an expat? I'm just curious.

I'm native thai and I do not have bachelor degree in computer at all. All I have is portfolio for my web-application and my code to apply the programmer job.

To be honest, may be it's because of your age for had difficulties finding IT job. (in my country over age 35 is hard to apply job, but it's still has a chance so don't give up.)



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13 Jul 2018, 11:06 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I'm happy they rescued all those kids and that coach from that cave in Chiang Rai.

Chiang Rai is a nice location with a nice climate.


Thanks you! :D



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13 Jul 2018, 4:30 pm

Coder Rebirth wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Coder Rebirth wrote:
Sorry dude but this topic is wrong. because I'm software developer and happy with it.
co-workers are full of geek/aspie also.

So programmer/developer and tester jobs are good for aspie.

But yeah helpdesk / system analyst / project co-ordinator is hell for aspie


Hey man, maybe you're right and I'm wrong. I notice you live in Bangkok Thailand. I've not thought of this but maybe part of the reason I've had difficulties finding an IT job is location. Are you a native to Thailand or an expat? I'm just curious.

I'm native thai and I do not have bachelor degree in computer at all. All I have is portfolio for my web-application and my code to apply the programmer job.

To be honest, may be it's because of your age for had difficulties finding IT job. (in my country over age 35 is hard to apply job, but it's still has a chance so don't give up.)


Bolded >>>>That's what I should've been doing. I should've been doing programs and apps and keeping a portfolio. I had a gut feeling this is what i've been doing wrong over the years but you kind of helped confirm it. I should've been doing internships, portfolio, volunteer work in addition to the degree. I didn't know any of this when I went to college long ago.



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13 Jul 2018, 10:14 pm

In my experience, it's dependent upon the particular job situation and if any changes come along to disrupt it. (And you don't have to start in help desk. Development probably gives a better chance of success.)

My first job while I was finishing my degree and for a bit after I graduated was good initially, until they hired a young NT manager. Her arrival brought an environment of continual change. It wasn't even good or necessary change but more like the type of change people do in business when they don't really know what they're doing but want to impress the higher ups. Eventually I was "cut loose" entirely due to her not wanting to deal with communicating with me. She said I was too literal, among other things.

My next job was great (remote development) until the parent company sold off the subsidiary I was working for and only half our team went with the new company. My manager's manager was tasked to find the remaining team members new teams to join. This went terribly for me. The team I was placed in was entirely offshore except for the managers and we had online meetings all day long. It was nothing like what I had been doing and I was completely overwhelmed. Eventually, they just decided they couldn't find me a comparable position to what I was doing and laid me off in May.

I agree with the observation that you're expected to have multiple years experience in a myriad of skills anymore. I'm reading job ads and have never even heard of a lot of the things employers are looking for let alone have experience. It's like they're inventing new development tools and languages every week and I simply can't keep up. I've got about 6 to 8 weeks to find something before my financial situation goes right off a cliff. I'm not feeling too optimistic right now but any of my other employment options aren't going to pay my bills.



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17 Jul 2018, 9:20 am

Yeah build a portfolio and then also look into private contracting.



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17 Jul 2018, 10:50 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I'm happy they rescued all those kids and that coach from that cave in Chiang Rai.

Chiang Rai is a nice location with a nice climate.


Oh s**t! Yeah me too. I'm glad everyone was rescued but it is sad that navy seal died.