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26 Mar 2025, 7:05 pm

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College is not meant to replace experience. College is meant to add to experience. A degree is not a magic shortcut. Experience still matters.

How do I get experience if I cant get hired for that first job? My parents and all my teachers told me that getting a degree would be a meal ticket to the good life and the American Dream and that it would get me a good job but it did not. How would suggest getting a job with no experience and that is not a McJob or volunteering or a unpaid internship? I wanted to get experience but DARS would not help me and still may not get me a job coach. Its still up in the air. I just will be unemployed/self-employed for the rest of my life if I cant get a free job coach from the state.
I kinda relate. I struggled majorly in school due to dyslexia & other issues & my parents refused to let me drop out of high-school insisting that having a high-school diploma would majorly increase my career opportunities. I graduated high-school in 2001 & almost none of the job apps I filled out ever asked about high-school but there were sections for college, trade schools, & special certifications & licenses. The jobs I applied for were things like washing dishes, stocking shelves, & custodial type stuff. I struggled majorly to get hired for those jobs. When I was living with my mom & not working I had to hear her b!tch about it along with how much money her & dad spent for me to go to a Catholic high-school because I had problems in public school only for me to be too lazy to do anything with my costly high-school diploma :wall: My mom complained that I was not living in the real world but I thought she's majorly out of touch with the modern world. She also could not relate to being disabled.


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26 Mar 2025, 8:40 pm

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How hard is to find entry-level jobs that require 4 year degrees? I hear conflicting information. I hear more and more jobs are requiring them than they were decades ago. However people think i should just work a McJob but I have never wanted to work a McJob because I am college educated. I dont see the point of college if I never work at a job that requires a bachelor's degree I have no experience. What kind of jobs would they be? I have a degree in one of the social sciences. I could not get any jobs after college because the state of Texas never gave me a job coach. I regret going to college.


The ‘recruitment’ process is a joke now. It really is. Just keep playing their stupid game and send as many applications out as they interest you. And do something that mimics the work they want from you but refuse to be a slave. That is the gist of it.

Don’t allow anyone to take advantage of you. The autism community is vulnerable to workplace abusers because we can be naive and eager to please. (I’m so sick of the disingenuous employers.)

You haven’t wasted your education because you have gained knowledge in some areas. That is valuable with or without a formal job.

Good luck out there.



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26 Mar 2025, 8:52 pm

It's those entry-level jobs that require 5 years experience that are real doozies.


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26 Mar 2025, 9:30 pm

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Seems to me, the reason so many Gen-Z have degrees but no jobs is, they got the degree, but have no work experience, and expect to get jobs they're not qualified for.


So even fully qualified graduates need retraining. Even in infotech and engineering.


[FIXED] College graduates still need training. Period.

Undergrads in particular (associate and bachelor). Graduate-level programs (master and phd) are less prone (but not immune) to lacking practical experience, as graduate-level programs tend to require a relevant work-history and references to even be accepted.

Theoretical knowledge doesn't replace, and doesn't become, practical knowledge.

Worth noting: "Entry-level" does not mean the same thing as "no experience". That's why job searches have them as two separate things. An "entry level" job at NASA is a very different animal than an "entry-level" job at Bubba's Burger Barn. Some jobs are sufficiently complex that even an "entry-level" position still requires a certain level of experience or qualification.



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27 Mar 2025, 2:45 am

uncommondenominator wrote:
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Seems to me, the reason so many Gen-Z have degrees but no jobs is, they got the degree, but have no work experience, and expect to get jobs they're not qualified for.


So even fully qualified graduates need retraining. Even in infotech and engineering.


[FIXED] College graduates still need training. Period.

Undergrads in particular (associate and bachelor). Graduate-level programs (master and phd) are less prone (but not immune) to lacking practical experience, as graduate-level programs tend to require a relevant work-history and references to even be accepted.

Theoretical knowledge doesn't replace, and doesn't become, practical knowledge.

Worth noting: "Entry-level" does not mean the same thing as "no experience". That's why job searches have them as two separate things. An "entry level" job at NASA is a very different animal than an "entry-level" job at Bubba's Burger Barn. Some jobs are sufficiently complex that even an "entry-level" position still requires a certain level of experience or qualification.


^^^ Makes sense



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27 Mar 2025, 4:26 am

For an entry level job, some indication that you could do the job would be a prime consideration.

More important, though, would be some legitimate reason to believe that they are dedicated to the job and not just there for a paycheck.

If are there for the paycheck, then there is far less likely to be a path for advancement.

There's a story about a railroad work crew working on some railroad tracks when a train stops and a very well dressed man comes over and talks to one of the older workers. They talk for a well and the well dressed men gets back on his train the train leaves.

A younger worker asked the older worker who that was. The older worker replied, "That's the president of the railroad company."

The younger worker was quite impressed and ask why he stopped to speak to the older worker. The older worker replied, "We both started out together at this railroad on the same day forty years ago."

The younger worker looked at him and asked why the other man progressed so high and he didn't. His response, "I came here to work for a paycheck. He came her to work for the railroad."



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27 Mar 2025, 4:45 am

Check out to see if your city is looking for someone to hire.

My preference would be working for a small town where you learn a wide variety of jobs. You might be driving a garbage truck one day, reading meters the next day, and fixing a broken water main the next day. If someone needs help, help them. If you are a hard and dedicated worker, you will get noticed in a small town and will likely see more opportunities and a good chance for advancement if you choose to stay.

In a big city, you'd be more likely to just doing the same thing day after day after day. Starting out, you would probably be better off with a wide variety of experience instead of a very narrow job.

Some of the more respected people in my town have worked for the city. I used to hire one for after hours work. It wasn't unusual for us to help whoever asked with their problems as we did our work. For example, we were at one old lady's house one evening and she asked about a sewer issue she was having. He immediately checked it out, found the problem, and had city employees out there first thing the next morning to fix it.

I help them out on occasion, too. Just the other day, I went out and cleared out an alley that was mostly blocked. When I got through, you could drive down the alley again.



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27 Mar 2025, 3:49 pm

kokopelli wrote:
My preference would be working for a small town where you learn a wide variety of jobs. You might be driving a garbage truck one day, reading meters the next day, and fixing a broken water main the next day. If someone needs help, help them. If you are a hard and dedicated worker, you will get noticed in a small town and will likely see more opportunities and a good chance for advancement if you choose to stay.


I can speak for regional/rural Australia. Getting work if you are an outsider is not easy. Especially when unemployment is already a major issue for these regions. Locals accept you if you are FIFO working on minesites, or employed in a shopping centre, or professionals (I'm sure this is the same in the US, but its hard to attract healthcare workers or teachers to work outside of urban areas). But coming into a small town when you are unemployed is a waste of time. You are competing against local young people who are themselves struggling to find work. Apart from picking fruit, locals don't want to import other jobless and will resent you coming in and competing with their own kids.



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27 Mar 2025, 5:02 pm

Stargazer99 wrote:
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Hi yall,
How hard is to find entry-level jobs that require 4 year degrees? I hear conflicting information. I hear more and more jobs are requiring them than they were decades ago. However people think i should just work a McJob but I have never wanted to work a McJob because I am college educated. I dont see the point of college if I never work at a job that requires a bachelor's degree I have no experience. What kind of jobs would they be? I have a degree in one of the social sciences. I could not get any jobs after college because the state of Texas never gave me a job coach. I regret going to college.


College degrees are becoming less valuable to the workforce because the workforce has changed. The world has changed dramatically within the last 20 years. The new world order requires social networking to gain jobs. It’s more about who you know than ability from what I’ve witnessed. They encourage people to mimic the job that they intend to do and they are rated on the mimicry. Weird, huh? But this is the method they are using that remains unspoken.

Trades are becoming more valuable now because they are less likely to be replaced by robotic automation.

Ya I am thinking about buying a business in the trades but i dont know if that would be the best plan.



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27 Mar 2025, 5:04 pm

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I dont have any experience at a job. Also I feel like I am the one who needs a job coach. I dont see how I can teach people how to work when I have never held a job for any amount of time. I have only worked at a job for 1 month but thats not enough to count.


Believe it or not. a lot of job coaches and life coaches have not held a 9-5 job prior to entering their profession. Back to job coaches, all you would be doing is showing people how to apply for jobs. Snagging the job is up them (not you). Your experience in applying for a wide range of jobs is what is useful. Not holding a job. I regularly was turned down for work and always insisted on getting full feedback from the interview panels which was useful in terms of either where I stood against other applicants or what I needed to do to improve my prospects. that sort of data is what a job coach needs to be of value to a client (not how to make hamburgers or take apart a computer).


Oh okay thanks.



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27 Mar 2025, 5:08 pm

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I know a woman who started at data entry and is now making 140k/year at the same company.
She was out of the work force raising two daughters and had to start with a McJob.

I heard on Youtube that corporations dont really promote that much from within anymore. I heard the best way to make more money is job hopping.



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27 Mar 2025, 5:10 pm

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I had two math teachers that won the Presidential Award for Excellence in Mathematics and Science Teaching.
We need more teachers like them.

I discovered that I can still teach basic math that I haven't used in many years! Just need to take a few minutes to bring that up those old memories. When I was working they came to me when they had math questions.

Ya you are right we need more teachers like them. I wish I would of had as good of a math teacher as them.



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27 Mar 2025, 5:24 pm

Thanks nick007.



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27 Mar 2025, 5:27 pm

Stargazer99 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Hi yall,
How hard is to find entry-level jobs that require 4 year degrees? I hear conflicting information. I hear more and more jobs are requiring them than they were decades ago. However people think i should just work a McJob but I have never wanted to work a McJob because I am college educated. I dont see the point of college if I never work at a job that requires a bachelor's degree I have no experience. What kind of jobs would they be? I have a degree in one of the social sciences. I could not get any jobs after college because the state of Texas never gave me a job coach. I regret going to college.


The ‘recruitment’ process is a joke now. It really is. Just keep playing their stupid game and send as many applications out as they interest you. And do something that mimics the work they want from you but refuse to be a slave. That is the gist of it.

Don’t allow anyone to take advantage of you. The autism community is vulnerable to workplace abusers because we can be naive and eager to please. (I’m so sick of the disingenuous employers.)

You haven’t wasted your education because you have gained knowledge in some areas. That is valuable with or without a formal job.

Good luck out there.


Thanks....the real bad thing is the employers can legally take advantage of me because they dont have to pay me a min wage because I am disabled.



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27 Mar 2025, 5:27 pm

Stargazer99 wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Hi yall,
How hard is to find entry-level jobs that require 4 year degrees? I hear conflicting information. I hear more and more jobs are requiring them than they were decades ago. However people think i should just work a McJob but I have never wanted to work a McJob because I am college educated. I dont see the point of college if I never work at a job that requires a bachelor's degree I have no experience. What kind of jobs would they be? I have a degree in one of the social sciences. I could not get any jobs after college because the state of Texas never gave me a job coach. I regret going to college.


The ‘recruitment’ process is a joke now. It really is. Just keep playing their stupid game and send as many applications out as they interest you. And do something that mimics the work they want from you but refuse to be a slave. That is the gist of it.

Don’t allow anyone to take advantage of you. The autism community is vulnerable to workplace abusers because we can be naive and eager to please. (I’m so sick of the disingenuous employers.)

You haven’t wasted your education because you have gained knowledge in some areas. That is valuable with or without a formal job.

Good luck out there.


Thanks....the real bad thing is the employers can legally take advantage of me because they dont have to pay me a min wage because I am disabled.



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27 Mar 2025, 5:29 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
It's those entry-level jobs that require 5 years experience that are real doozies.

Ya I could of gotten a job with it wasnt for those Tim.



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