never gona work if i can help it!

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well first off i want to reply to Gambit, man don't say anything at all till you have an idea of what we have gone though. I worked my ass off for another employer and also worked for myself (self employment) for nearly 10-12 years. So i don't wanna hear your negative thoughts Gambit on people on disability. You have no idea of what kind of hell and life I have had or others on this forum, that has caused me or them to be on disability. Alot of Aspies also have mental and physical disability cause of the system that you are working your ass off in has treated them, unfair scheduling, overworking, lack of sleep, increase stress, traumatic events that has torn there life to constant fear and conditions that you couldn't even think about having.

Alot of us has endured so much pain and hate at the job industry (thanks to our mood swings, personality disorders)

alot of us who have worked in the job industry has spine problems, bulging discs, artheritis which causes severe pain that you can't even get off the bed or coach some days.

Not only that but people on have a severe side of mental health issues, PTSD, anxiety, depression that prevents them from working if you know anything about it alot of us have flashbacks and nightmares of our past jobs, while alot of us do not get any sleep or very little, read about sleeping disorders and do some research before you attack people who are seriously disabled.

I understand that there may people who don't deserve to be on disability, but you can't attack people who actually are disabled.
Now if you had the same issues of life events as I have had, you would understand but just think about getting migraines and panic attacks several times every couple hours. then you would really understand what it to be on disability.

just a statement, you don't need to be worried: If I had a job right now, I would probably get a shotgun and shoot myself thats how much pain i'm in right now. so before you attack people you really need to know what there life has been like. If you had my kind of life you would see how hard it is to even be active at all.

on the side of self employment, becoming very wealthy and then losing it all including my life, due to traumatic events, work burnout and much more, i am considered to be forever on permanent disability, Well if I was taking advantage of it, then I would feel guilty about it, But I deserve this service for what our country and job industry (employers and managers) has treated there employees. So i don't feel guilty about it at all. Now if you were in my Shoes then you would really see how life is!! !

very well said!! !

you might work one day, as you would get bored of doing the same stuff everyday, and you will not really meet new people if you don't work, and you dont know you may like your job.

I don't know where people get the idea that people on disability are some kind of huge burden on society. There is a sizable over-supply of low-skilled labor already, and forcing a lot of desperate, low-functioning people onto the labor market at subsistence wages won't make anyone better off. Work does not equal productivity, in any case-there are countless make-work jobs in both the public and private sector that society could function perfectly well (maybe better) without.

That said, long-term unemployment is extremely demoralizing for most people. If you can find a job you can stand (not necessarily enjoy) it's worth sticking with it-not because of any sense of obligation, but just for your own sake.

I'm with Nutlog, I'd rather blow my head off than work 40 hours a week (or even 25) at some crap job that attacks my soul and senses from every direction.
I do not derive the smallest iota of self-worth from being employed by another human. I find it shameful to be at another's beck and call for a paltry wage. I am nobody's slave or servant.
I have many talents and skills. They are all too odd or worthless to society for me to earn a living from them. I have no interest in earning a living. I would very much like to live my life, but angry humans constantly stand in my way and demand money from me or tell me I have to leave private property. There is no non-private property where I can go and forage for myself.
Gambit, I'm glad to see you backed off a little on your initial attack. I don't think you should attack those trying to find a different way to live, especially when you yourself don't seem to be a fan of the current system. It is your choice to merely 'get by' according to other people's rules, rather than take survival risks by rebelling. (I do understand that many make this choice, and I respect it - my girlfriend is in your boat - but I take a survival risk trying to hold down a job, since it makes me suicidal. Rather than kill myself, I quit the job, breathe a sigh of relief for my soul, and then feel the apprehension set in as I try to come up with another way to pay bills for services I don't want but are mandated by society.)

I am tired of being badgered by society when I am clearly not interested to conform to illogical things... Thinking about saving up for a van or bus, with some gas and food money and hit the road like a modern gypsy... Go camping indefinately in remote places, away from people and society.

work will make you independent. it will make you feel confident and feel good about yourself. don't work for the man, work for the human inside yourself.

I have been working quite consistently for the past 21 years, still broke... been broke sine I was married ~ 17 years ago... seems to do that... Work for what? make someone else rich while I bargain my skills and ability for a wage so that I can barely pay the bills and such... Besides that... society is quite backwards... it is illogical with the value structure system and such... emotional and illogical reasoning veiled by the consumeristic culture which warps reality with fantasy with the trash spewing out of hollywood and the media...

I am going to find some land, build my own house... be off the power grid and stuff, very self effecient and such... eventually work out of the home, self employed with a minimal amount of expenses... be a hermit and maybe rent a cabin or two as my at home job... see a few people once a month to collect rent and a fwe other errans....

I am starting to work for myself, I found out that I can fix stuff, and I actually like fixing stuff, so I learned how to fix computers. I tried working for somebody else, and starting up an internet website business, both failed. So now I'll do what I love and fix stuff. I'll live extremely frugally and save lots of money and buy ridiculously cheap stocks. Then when (not if) the stock market goes back up I'll be a millionaire and never have to work again. Then I'll buy a house up north on the northwest coast of California and manage my stock holdings for an hour a day and have a happy life.

The stock market is a doomed affair. All stocks are overpriced by the time you have a chance to buy them, because the inside circle gets all the inside information before the public. Once the guys with the inside information have invested their money accordingly, the price of stock has gone up proportionally and it makes no sense for the general public to invest.

Raised, are you speaking from experience or from fantasy? Have you ever been homeless, have you ever slept in a shelter or on the street?

Having money or being able to eat is not even a concern for me anymore. That is what it is boiling down to really.

honestly, though, don't be hard on yourself. you can engage in life if you try. you could start with volunteering with people with disabilities. then you could try and apply to be "relief staff" at a group home for example, if you try, something may open up.