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10 Jun 2013, 7:22 am

Avoiding the nested quotes. [mod. edit: now fixed]

My 2 cents.

The benefits of a person with AS (generally) being a merc is that they are analytical, can think OUTSIDE of what most everyone else sees, and they can be hyper-focused on a task.

The liabilities of a person with AS (generally) being a merc is that they may not work well with others and you can't count on them to see things as YOU might see things. It'd be critical to appreciate their unique psychology so that you ensure the outcome you get meets expectations.

Otherwise, if they can do the work, they might be worthwhile assets.

Mercs serve various purposes. A computer genius can be a merc...not every mainframe is accessible via the Internet. Someone who operates on a different plane than the average person would be harder to predict or see coming unless you know how they think.

The issue is if someone hiring (merc org or military) can recognize the potential of someone with AS and utilize him/her to the best use they offer.



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10 Jun 2013, 2:06 pm

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agreed that AS folk are just as capable, but the central question remains, of WHY BOTHER with all that mess?


Get paid like hell. It's just gambling. Make 100-200K a year for what a normal soldier gets paid like 15K for. Even things like driving a truck out there you can get paid 80-100K for what'd get you peanuts out here in the States.



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10 Jun 2013, 3:54 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
Avoiding the nested quotes. [mod. edit: now fixed]

My 2 cents.

The benefits of a person with AS (generally) being a merc is that they are analytical, can think OUTSIDE of what most everyone else sees, and they can be hyper-focused on a task.

The liabilities of a person with AS (generally) being a merc is that they may not work well with others and you can't count on them to see things as YOU might see things. It'd be critical to appreciate their unique psychology so that you ensure the outcome you get meets expectations.

Otherwise, if they can do the work, they might be worthwhile assets.

Mercs serve various purposes. A computer genius can be a merc...not every mainframe is accessible via the Internet. Someone who operates on a different plane than the average person would be harder to predict or see coming unless you know how they think.

The issue is if someone hiring (merc org or military) can recognize the potential of someone with AS and utilize him/her to the best use they offer.




The plus side of being a mercenary with AS is that for the reasons that you just mentioned they can be an invaluable asset to their unit, their company and their employer.

Well, we can certainly do the job because a substantial number of us are already in the military.

We can certainly do a very wide and a very diverse variety of jobs but we have to be very careful about who we considering accepting contracts / assignments from.

Mercenaries that are Aspies would be very good at what they do, whatever specialty that they have or whatever job that they're being ordered to do by their employer.



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10 Jun 2013, 4:04 pm

1000Knives wrote:
Get paid like hell. It's just gambling. Make 100-200K a year for what a normal soldier gets paid like 15K for. Even things like driving a truck out there you can get paid 80-100K for what'd get you peanuts out here in the States.


But you have to understand, we have to be very careful about who we receive assignments from. If we're hired by like say, someone's who Middle Eastern and if people from that person's military, government, country or members of a militant / insurgent faction in that country are suspected / confirmed of supporting, helping those sorts of people who slaughter and bully innocent people, well then it's quite obvious that mercenaries that have Asperger's can't / won't accept contracts from those types of people who refuse to slaughter innocent people, be sadistic or racist due to their extensive and strict moral and ethical code which is derived, brought down from their Asperger's.



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11 Jun 2013, 12:39 am

Does anyone wanna know well that mercenaries / paramilitary operatives with Asperger's would be armed ? What sort of firepower that mercenaries / paramilitary personnel with Asperger's would have access to ?



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11 Jun 2013, 6:42 am

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Hired soldiers and paramilitary operatives with high functioning autism, mild autism and / or Asperger's can be really useful and really cool.

Hmm, wonder if any government, including the U.S. or big, huge corporations would hire high functioning / mild autistics to do their fighting for them ?


Bad coordination and lacking ability to function in a team? Being sensitive to absolutely everything? Forget it.
Mercenaries with bad social skills are only found in 80's movies.



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11 Jun 2013, 1:54 pm

That's crazy. There are people with Asperger's that are already in the military. We can recruit them as contractors once they leave. And there are also three other reasons, amongst other things why people with Asperger's can join the military: A: Some / most / all of those symptoms never existed for people in the military with Asperger's to begin with, 2: Some / most / all symptoms became less severe over time for those in the military with Asperger's. C: People in the military with Asperger's overcame some / most / all symptoms altogether. If they can fulfill certain requirements, standards, and pass all the tests and possess all the skills that they need in order to become contractors for our paramilitary unit and as long they're not receiving any treatment, therapy, counseling or taking any medication for a certain period of time, then yes, they can be eligible for employment.



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11 Jun 2013, 3:10 pm

I was actually in the Royal Norwegian Navy doing my military service 20 years ago. My coordination was so bad that I was excused from shooting practice and I worked as a clerk copying documents. A lot has changed since then -- at that time there were still a lot of people who had criminal rapsheets, people who were borderline ret*d and Aspies who could do simple tasks like clerk work, gardening, working in the kitchen, etc. I doubt that there are many Aspies at all in the military. If there are -- I doub they are doing anything advanced.



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11 Jun 2013, 3:12 pm

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MDD123 wrote:
Most blackwater (or whatever they call themselves now) employees were ex special forces or have had some extensive military/law enforcment experience. The last time I read into it, their qualification course is in the same ballpark as special forces, it produces a lot of washouts. Groups like blackwater expect teamwork, and more physical endurance than the average person has. If you have any sense of morality involving human life or dignity, it'll very likely come into conflict with your career at some point.


Tell me about it. But we're only taking orders from two groups : The Government and the paramilitary unit that's a military / defense subsidiary of my multinational corporation that I'm planning to found. And we certainly wouldn't slaughter innocent civilians, and we also won't be psychotic / psychopathic / sociopathic, we won't take pleasure in killing or hurting other people or think that doing these types of things is fun and we certainly won't be racist or antireligious. We don't have any beliefs, except that for the fact that we won't accept female candidates / applicants.


Stick to writing comics or computer games.



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11 Jun 2013, 3:33 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
I was actually in the Royal Norwegian Navy doing my military service 20 years ago. My coordination was so bad that I was excused from shooting practice and I worked as a clerk copying documents. A lot has changed since then -- at that time there were still a lot of people who had criminal rapsheets, people who were borderline ret*d and Aspies who could do simple tasks like clerk work, gardening, working in the kitchen, etc. I doubt that there are many Aspies at all in the military. If there are -- I doub they are doing anything advanced.


Look, Aspies that are already in the military have a way of thinking very clearly, logically and very straight-forward and they're not gonna do something that they don't wanna do because someone, whether they be autistic or not, didn't like it and they felt uncomfortable with it. You should know that by now, if you were an Aspie. As stated in my previous statement, if we overcame those symptoms, or if they became less severe overtime, or they never existed for certain people with Asperger's to begin with, and as long as they passed all the tests, standards, requirements and possessed all the skills and as long as they weren't receiving any treatment, therapy, counseling for a certain amount of time and as long as they weren't on any medication, then yes, they were allowed to enlist in the military.



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11 Jun 2013, 3:54 pm

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Stick to writing comics or computer games.


Whoa, whoa ! !! You're not raising, taking care or responsible for people with Asperger's, so you can't control what other people with Asperger's can do. You should only be concerned with what affects you, what's important to you. I know of at least one three Aspies, one of whom did at least four different jobs in the U.S. Army, two who were combat engineers in the U.S. Army, and another who is still in the U.S. Marine Corps as a infantry Marine trained for intelligence operations. So, you think that there are people with Asperger's who aren't doing anything sophisticated in the military and there are already loads of people already in the military with Asperger's and they've held positions like combat engineer, infantry, and officers. I know of at least two officers, one of them is a lieutenant colonel and the other wants to be promoted to Brigadier General, both of who. are Aspies. So, all this being said, I think that you're the one who isn't just wrong, you're misplaced. Sorry, but you're gonna have to find something else to do. You may not like it or you may even feel uncomfortable with it, but that's just the way that it is.



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11 Jun 2013, 4:36 pm

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Look, Aspies that are already in the military have a way of thinking very clearly, logically and very straight-forward and they're not gonna do something that they don't wanna do because someone, whether they be autistic or not, didn't like it and they felt uncomfortable with it. You should know that by now, if you were an Aspie. As stated in my previous statement, if we overcame those symptoms, or if they became less severe overtime, or they never existed for certain people with Asperger's to begin with, and as long as they passed all the tests, standards, requirements and possessed all the skills and as long as they weren't receiving any treatment, therapy, counseling for a certain amount of time and as long as they weren't on any medication, then yes, they were allowed to enlist in the military.



Most Aspies will never be able to get into a professional army.



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11 Jun 2013, 4:43 pm

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Whoa, whoa ! !! You're not raising, taking care or responsible for people with Asperger's, so you can't control what other people with Asperger's can do. You should only be concerned with what affects you, what's important to you. I know of at least one three Aspies, one of whom did at least four different jobs in the U.S. Army, two who were combat engineers in the U.S. Army, and another who is still in the U.S. Marine Corps as a infantry Marine trained for intelligence operations. So, you think that there are people with Asperger's who aren't doing anything sophisticated in the military and there are already loads of people already in the military with Asperger's and they've held positions like combat engineer, infantry, and officers. I know of at least two officers, one of them is a lieutenant colonel and the other wants to be promoted to Brigadier General, both of who. are Aspies. So, all this being said, I think that you're the one who isn't just wrong, you're misplaced. Sorry, but you're gonna have to find something else to do. You may not like it or you may even feel uncomfortable with it, but that's just the way that it is.


To me you sound like a kid in junior high! You remind me of kids who used to be Chuck Norris or Bruce Lee fans when I was about 13! You're talking nonsense!
There is basically zero chance that the people you're talking about actually have Asperger's. If a person is able to get into the military at all, he or she is not an Aspie.



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11 Jun 2013, 4:45 pm

As a matter of fact, they can. There are already a substantial portion of them that are already in the military. Next time, actually do some research and review and check and then double check and then verify your information before you go shooting your mouth off about things that you only know partially about.



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11 Jun 2013, 4:48 pm

You know that the recruiters even try to enlist learning disabled kids as cannon fodder?



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11 Jun 2013, 5:01 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
To me you sound like a kid in junior high! You remind me of kids who used to be Chuck Norris or Bruce Lee fans when I was about 13! You're talking nonsense!
There is basically zero chance that the people you're talking about actually have Asperger's. If a person is able to get into the military at all, he or she is not an Aspie.


Well, you sound like one of those irritating little five-year olds who starts crying every time that he didn't receive the ice-cream that he wanted. So, you're not only immature, you're misinformed. As a matter of fact, there are a substantial portion of Aspies that are already in the military and a considerable number of them are American, they are Aspies, and they do have military training. But I bet you wouldn't / couldn't check their records because you don't have access to them. Plus, Aspies have no reason to lie about what they're discussing because their disorder requires them to tell the truth and be honest to some extent at what they do. Also, it's a felony impersonating military personnel in the United States. It's referred to as The Stolen Valor Act. Google it.