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13 Jan 2023, 12:12 am

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Ah yes, the you can't have a job unless you have experience, but you can't get experience because they won't give you a job conundrum. Been there. It's very frustrating.

I would say try and get experience in any sort of office work regardless of whether it uses your degree or not. Then you will have some experience under your belt. I job hopped for years gaining experience until I finally found a job I actually like that is stable and pays well.

Does the work you do for the family company not count towards work experience? Are there any transferable skills you could emphasise in your applications for jobs?

I dont think it would count towards work experience for a job because my mom does not think it would look good on a app to say you were CEO and now you are applying for a entry-level job.The problem is that I think most or all of the office jobs in the area prefer or require degrees but then the whole no experience thing keeps me from getting hired.I am only qualified for min wage type jobs or working at Goodwill for pennies an hour apparently despite having a 4-year degree.I dont think there would be any transferrable skills or not because we just get a check every month for our oil company.


So you don't do any admin work at all for the oil company? What do you do? Don't put CEO on your resume. Call it something else that's more skills focussed.

I think you need to write a list of what skills you have and look for work based on that. A skills based resume can be very useful. What transferable skills can you use from your course.

Or is there any self employed type of work you can do using your skillset?

I second the getting a McJob. Getting a degree proves you can do intellectual work, but sticking with a basic job proves reliability.

Hi hurtloam there is not really much work to do because all the company really meaningfully does from a business perspective is getting a check once a month for our oil production.



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13 Jan 2023, 3:18 am

hurtloam wrote:
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Ah yes, the you can't have a job unless you have experience, but you can't get experience because they won't give you a job conundrum. Been there. It's very frustrating.

I would say try and get experience in any sort of office work regardless of whether it uses your degree or not. Then you will have some experience under your belt. I job hopped for years gaining experience until I finally found a job I actually like that is stable and pays well.

Does the work you do for the family company not count towards work experience? Are there any transferable skills you could emphasise in your applications for jobs?

I dont think it would count towards work experience for a job because my mom does not think it would look good on a app to say you were CEO and now you are applying for a entry-level job.The problem is that I think most or all of the office jobs in the area prefer or require degrees but then the whole no experience thing keeps me from getting hired.I am only qualified for min wage type jobs or working at Goodwill for pennies an hour apparently despite having a 4-year degree.I dont think there would be any transferrable skills or not because we just get a check every month for our oil company.


So you don't do any admin work at all for the oil company? What do you do? Don't put CEO on your resume. Call it something else that's more skills focussed.

I think you need to write a list of what skills you have and look for work based on that. A skills based resume can be very useful. What transferable skills can you use from your course.

Or is there any self employed type of work you can do using your skillset?

I second the getting a McJob. Getting a degree proves you can do intellectual work, but sticking with a basic job proves reliability.

I am trying to start a church as a self-employed type work as a preacher but that requires me to file for tax exemption and my parents wont let me do that right now.



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13 Jan 2023, 3:24 am

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Why don’t you go for a Texas civil service position? Take a civil service test.

Well I dont want to be a employee for the rest of my career .I only want to do it for a couple years until my business and community organizing/preaching career gets going.However, the civil service is my last resort before just giving up and living as a trust fund baby for the rest of my life.


I am looking for a partner for life and for missions. I don't require my partner to work outside the home. I just need someone to take care of me emotionally and physically. I am totally accommodating for my partner to enjoy their online gaming and creative life, as long as it does not involve sin or betrayal. And as long as the homemaking tasks are done in a timely fashion. I would also never come between my partner and their family--again, as long as there was no sin involved, as there is with many families. I love my work and can be the breadwinner. Everyone has a certain work to do inasmuch as God leads them to because everyone has a special gifting and usefulness to God and His Plan. Perhaps my partner's work is to just support me so I can help others and them. :)

What denomination is your mission work affiliated with, MissMary227?My mom and dad wont let me date so I doubt they would want us to be life partners but I appreciate it anyways.



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13 Jan 2023, 3:28 am

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I had a friend who had a college degree in theology. He got married, had children and needed to make more income than things like "assistant youth pastor" would pay. He used his personal contacts to get a job in marketing, working for a marketing company. He was able to use his people skills and on-the-job training (and the school of hard knocks) to make a career path.

Even a "McJob" can turn into a career path - some people move into management.

I have found the book "What Color is my Parachute" to be helpful.

One piece of advice I have seen recently for people on the spectrum is to be very clear and able to clearly state what you are good at. Focus on this more than the usual "people skills" type advice. The one exception: use friends and family (especially family) for networking. Look for those people you know and trust who have the strong people skills and ask them to help you with networking, and to network for you when they are able to, comfortable doing so.

"What Color is my Parachute" has a section on this too. The advice it gives is that even if you have a real handicap, focus on what you CAN do more than what you CANNOT do. It even has a list of job skills in case you have a hard time identifying "what you CAN do".

My extended family does not really want to help me network in the oil industry....in fact some of them refuse to help me get my oil career going good by giving me oil deals so they wont help me.



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13 Jan 2023, 9:18 am

Ok, that's not a business like I know of. I don't think most of us have lived like your family so it's taken a few posts for you to knock it into us that there is no work in that business.

I don't know what other advice I can give I'm afraid. My goal was to get a job, any job, so that I could have independence. I wasn't fussy about what it was, so I think our perspectives are way too different.



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13 Jan 2023, 9:31 am

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What denomination is your mission work affiliated with, MissMary227?My mom and dad wont let me date so I doubt they would want us to be life partners but I appreciate it anyways.


I am a born-again Christian.

I don't want to 'date' either, so I respect that. I would want to have a courtship, if the situation ever presented itself.


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13 Jan 2023, 10:07 am

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Ok, that's not a business like I know of. I don't think most of us have lived like your family so it's taken a few posts for you to knock it into us that there is no work in that business.

I don't know what other advice I can give I'm afraid. My goal was to get a job, any job, so that I could have independence. I wasn't fussy about what it was, so I think our perspectives are way too different.

Oh okay thanks.I am just trying to get with my headhunter to see what her thoughts are about my job search.I am limited to 25 hours a week due to SSI/SSDI 2000 dollar rule so even if I got a job I would not make enough to live on my own due to government restrictions on the amount of money I can make legally.



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14 Jan 2023, 7:09 pm

At the end of the first stage of my legal career, around age fifty, I took a job as a live in caretaker for a man with dementia. I literally had to wipe his arse for him. I was with him 24 hours a day, first three then four than five days a week. By the end he was the most important person in my life. When he did pass away, almost three years later, it was like losing a family member.

I needed another job, so I got one, stacking grocery shelves at Walmart. I didn’t think that was beneath me, a man who had practiced big firm corporate law for 25 years, even though I thought shoppers thought I was a loser stocking shelves at 53. I did that for three weeks, I smiled, I worked my ass off, I lost ten pounds, before by the grace of God I was offered a second chance to practice law,

Go get a McJob. It will good for your soul.



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14 Jan 2023, 9:17 pm

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At the end of the first stage of my legal career, around age fifty, I took a job as a live in caretaker for a man with dementia. I literally had to wipe his arse for him. I was with him 24 hours a day, first three then four than five days a week. By the end he was the most important person in my life. When he did pass away, almost three years later, it was like losing a family member.

I needed another job, so I got one, stacking grocery shelves at Walmart. I didn’t think that was beneath me, a man who had practiced big firm corporate law for 25 years, even though I thought shoppers thought I was a loser stocking shelves at 53. I did that for three weeks, I smiled, I worked my ass off, I lost ten pounds, before by the grace of God I was offered a second chance to practice law,

Go get a McJob. It will good for your soul.

But stats show that college grads who take a McJob are much more likely to be working a McJob for the rest of their lives.I dont see how working a McJob would get me where I want to go in life.College grads who take a McJob are about 5 times more likely to be stuck working in a job that does not require a degree.I know my situation right now isnt much better but I would just view it as a waste of education to risk working a McJob for the rest of my life.I did not get a bachelor's degree to work at Walmart when I could of worked Walmart without going to college.I dont want to risk ruining my career and making my education worthless by taking a McJob.



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16 Jan 2023, 3:18 am

Mona Pereth wrote:
What subject do you have a degree in?

Its a degree in one of the social sciences.



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17 Jan 2023, 2:47 pm

Companies that have IT projects these days often hire "agile coaches", basically nanny figures that help developers and the management (or any stakeholders in the project) communicate with one another about required items, to get things done more efficiently. Women tend to fit better the "nanny" figure, but there is no reason a man can't.

It only takes a certification or two to do it. Maybe attend a few seminars. Will work just fine in conjunction with your 4-year degree.

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Mona Pereth wrote:
What subject do you have a degree in?

Its a degree in one of the social sciences.

Oh, yeah, that'll work.



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17 Jan 2023, 5:38 pm

r00tb33r wrote:
Companies that have IT projects these days often hire "agile coaches", basically nanny figures that help developers and the management (or any stakeholders in the project) communicate with one another about required items, to get things done more efficiently. Women tend to fit better the "nanny" figure, but there is no reason a man can't.

It only takes a certification or two to do it. Maybe attend a few seminars. Will work just fine in conjunction with your 4-year degree.
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Mona Pereth wrote:
What subject do you have a degree in?

Its a degree in one of the social sciences.

Oh, yeah, that'll work.

Okay thanks for the suggestion,I really appreciate it.