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25 Nov 2012, 8:35 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
Just out of curiosity, do you know why you lost those 29 jobs?


I was depressed, abused. My syndrome was never explored or even
discussed until I was 20

So I ran away from home, and I was working at the same job for 8 months,
in the same positions, and I really desired to be promoted to management eventually at McDonalds.
Fair enough. And I really liked art too. And programming, and coding. Except...
a child with fluctuating interests and high ambition, chooses to
focus on a number of subjects. Fair enough. Except.. when you abuse that child,
constantly, for his own innate errors he doesn't understand, or feels comfortable
discussing until the beating stops, stops finding interest in reality.
I also ran away to a home that was just as inconsiderate when they kicked
me out at 18 for losing my jobs, and only passing high school with mediocre
results.

The BEST PART about all of this western culture BS, is that it's MY RESPONSIBILITY.
Nobody else apparently. NOBODY CAUSED THOSE DEFAULTS EXCEPT US. US IRRATIONAL PEOPLE.
It wasn't JP Morgan. It wasn't private central banks. It wasn't the U.S. Government. It wasn't direct communist
dictatorships who over-ruled South American and Asian, and Middle Eastern countries. Nope. Not at all. it
was ME. And YOU. WE ARE THE PROBLEM. I'm tired of hearing it's my fault. It was ME who chose to kick me
out. Or ME who decided not to ask myself, if I was interested in math at 7. Or ME who decided to
take crack-cocaine because I felt it would help me overcome the death of a family member. NO. It's ME. It's MY FAULT.

For a number of years, until he is able to sit in his bed, and relax. For years.

Because until I had the opportunity to explore my autism at a college level on a loan,
without the constant pressure of adhering to twisted ideologies, and production methods
as an employee, I wasn't able to omnisciently explore myself from inside, like being in prison.

Prisoners, when they leave prison, return to society as an intellectual for the most part,
unless they were born with the functionality of an animal, and not an analytical human being
whose limit increases within their time spent within themself, and their ability
to persuade themselves, others, analyze symbols etc. I trapped myself in a
dystopia of Video games when I was younger, and then junk food up until years ago.
That's when I smoked my first joint with my cousin, and ever since I've been hooked
on classic rock and liberalism (true capitalism, and philosophers like Ayn Rand and American history.

So Sue me for being human.

You know what we need?! ! WE NEED JAILS! MORE JAILS! FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME! SO THEY CAN GO TO SCHOOL
WITHOUT LOANS!! !



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25 Nov 2012, 8:50 pm

I was abused as a child. I was sexually abused by a doctor, and by my aunt. I was beaten on a regular basis by my stepfather. I was sexually humiliated on a regular basis by both my mother and my sister. I was a boy with Aspergers who was placed in the public school system with nobody to help me out - I had no support whatsoever while I was growing up.

I played the victim card for 32 years of my 33 years of life. Guess what it got me? Absolutely nothing. I once was a child who could not stand up for himself in the face of immense oppression. When I entered adulthood, I was ill-equipped to deal with the challenges that were set in my path. The more I played the role of the victim, the more people tended to victimize me. The more I played the role of the victim, the more I drove away the people who wanted to help me. The more I played the role of the victim, the more I descended into the world of addiction.

I was no longer a helpless child. I was rejecting the world around me because I had a victim mentality. Eventually, I had to reach the point where my self-inflicted suffering was so great that I had to admit that I could not continue living the way that I was. I had to choose to be an adult, seek out help, and start growing into the role of a man.

Playing the role of the victim and blaming the world for who you are today, as an adult who can make choices, is not going to get you anywhere. I learned that lesson the hard way, and I hope you don't have to go through as much BS as I did to come to that realization. Everybody is helpless when their lives begin. But most people can learn how to not be helpless any longer. You can't keep blaming the world around you forever.



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25 Nov 2012, 8:54 pm

So do you expect the President to be elected if you took measures as a community or grass roots organization
of individuals who are politically and economically active, to resent their current circumstances that their
electoral colleges support? How about, if every American against the war in Cambodia and Laos,
had stayed home and played Call of Duty or pong instead? And ranted on a forum about their dis-interest
in society and the American government.

BECAUSE

that's exactly what social media is.

The outcry for attention and opinions and validation from peers against their common interests.

And when you capitalize on the opportunity to voice your freedom of speech
as a citizen of your country, you are not only condemned and or arrested, but you are
banned from stores, and you are insulted, and you are called crazy or a lunatic.

How many men do you see currently building
a) transportation
b) futures and families
c) savings accounts
d) Holiday gatherings
e) Small Business'
f) Stock accounts
g) Vacation plans
e) Education plans / savings

And how often do you hear "I just want." or "All I need" or "I'm so lucky
to have". No. We are all lucky because we are alive, and have the
opportunity to create a work of art, a true masterpiece known as the capitalist
society that man was meant to operate in. Maybe you should call Ayn Rand crazy too,
or protest her books off the shelves. Because they all refer to the demise of the
industrialist. And his or her dwindling presence in the marketplace in relation
to innovation and production export time in relation to customer
demand.

Private business doesn't need to manipulate demand, or sigma equations anymore. Becaue
the demand is monopolized via majority share holders, and the amount of cost
reduction in relation to outsourcing jobs, and tax and inflation increases.
Why do you need demand, when you can control inflation?

Yep. I deserve this. I'm nothin' but a hill billy'. A criminal in society.' A nothing. A nobody.
Pretty lousy description of someone who can rationally out-smart his
colleagues in professions rather than hobbies.



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25 Nov 2012, 9:03 pm

WhiteWidow wrote:
And when you capitalize on the opportunity to voice your freedom of speech
as a citizen of your country, you are not only condemned and or arrested, but you are
banned from stores, and you are insulted, and you are called crazy or a lunatic.

Freedom of speech is important. But the reality is that there is a time and a place for everything. I could enter a Southern Baptist church and start explicitly talking about all of the gay sex I've had throughout my life, and that would have been about as appropriate as your conversation with the clerk that started this thread to begin with.

How many men do you see currently building
a) transportation
b) futures and families
c) savings accounts
d) Holiday gatherings
e) Small Business'
f) Stock accounts
g) Vacation plans
e) Education plans / savings

A lot more people care about these things than you realize. Choosing to be cynical will get you nowhere. Being a part of the solution will reap rewards. What's it gonna be? Continue whining, or be a man and take action?



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25 Nov 2012, 9:09 pm

KagamineLen wrote:
WhiteWidow wrote:
And when you capitalize on the opportunity to voice your freedom of speech
as a citizen of your country, you are not only condemned and or arrested, but you are
banned from stores, and you are insulted, and you are called crazy or a lunatic.

Freedom of speech is important. But the reality is that there is a time and a place for everything. I could enter a Southern Baptist church and start explicitly talking about all of the gay sex I've had throughout my life, and that would have been about as appropriate as your conversation with the clerk that started this thread to begin with.

How many men do you see currently building
a) transportation
b) futures and families
c) savings accounts
d) Holiday gatherings
e) Small Business'
f) Stock accounts
g) Vacation plans
e) Education plans / savings

A lot more people care about these things than you realize. Choosing to be cynical will get you nowhere. Being a part of the solution will reap rewards. What's it gonna be? Continue whining, or be a man and take action?


Tell me how to be a man then, since you obviously have it figured out and capitalism is a defunct system of economics
that is history now, and nobody should ever think about it, ever again. If people were interested in these
topics, then you wouldn't have an increase in sales of Apple i Phones every year. Or tablet computers.



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25 Nov 2012, 9:15 pm

OK, since you asked.....

Stop being a victim.

Stop thinking that it is the world around you that is the problem.

Realize that while one person cannot change everything, being a part of the community around him and being actively involved with the world can make more of a change in the world than something like playing the role of the "tragic victim" on an Internet forum.

Realize that currently you are only fooling yourself. You are pissed off at the world, and you are essentially responding to that by consuming spiritual and intellectual venom. You are only hurting yourself to spite the world around you, and that is the opposite of being a man.



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25 Nov 2012, 9:32 pm

KagamineLen wrote:
OK, since you asked.....

Stop being a victim.

Stop thinking that it is the world around you that is the problem.

Realize that while one person cannot change everything, being a part of the community around him and being actively involved with the world can make more of a change in the world than something like playing the role of the "tragic victim" on an Internet forum.

Realize that currently you are only fooling yourself. You are pissed off at the world, and you are essentially responding to that by consuming spiritual and intellectual venom. You are only hurting yourself to spite the world around you, and that is the opposite of being a man.


You need to realize this. You need to say no. It was somebody else' fault you were abused. And it's
somebody else' fault at the very origin of economics, that you cannot be an artist, or an astronaut
or an engineer, or complete your dreams.



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26 Nov 2012, 3:36 am

WhiteWidow wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
it's private property, so in fact you can't say anything you want or they will ban you from the store.

Duchess isn't a communist bakery.
http://duchessbakeshop.com/about/


Posting their website doesn't mean that they're now automatically liberal and capitalist.
I talked to their owner directly about net revenues And he said himself
that he is a communist. It also doesn't mean he is aloud to kick me out
if I have the interest to buy something. If he doesn't want to talk to me,
fair enough. But I have the right to spend my money wherever I want. Because I have the right to vote
with my dollars. And he is explicitly stating that he doesn't want my vote, yet he is running in the race with all the other
contestants. He is also supported by a tax-payers association. Therefor he is saying to the tax-payer
in explicitly, that he doesn't care if taxes raise to 50% let alone 11% where they are currently on Income.
Because the ABA will continue to buy his commercial paper, regardless of net revenues. So he
wants tax-payer capital, but he doesn't care if they shop at his store, because the only revenue
he cares about is guaranteed and paid for in full via the Provincial government. And as long as the inflation
continues to increase, like it did in two days to .45 cents on a 2.05 pizza pop, then his business will continue
to increase revenue, regardless of free-flowing untaxed capital.

It is public property. It is private property on privately owned land for the purpose of business so that the land
owner may collect more net revenue from the most profitable business stationed.

Nobody can ban you from a store because they ask you about your ideas, or you get
into a conversation, and you DISAGREE.

Heaven forbid! Dissent! Jews!

I just.. I don't really understand why you keep
talking if you don't want to ask me questions?
Or analyze.. or make your own conclusions based
on statistics derived from myself.

This is probably why I can't handle autistic communities,
because we are stubborn. But you can't be a stubborn
person unless you're willing to commit to your statistics.

whether or not the owner holds communist ideas is not relevant to the fact that his business is capitalist.

it is not public property, it is private property. if you are asked to leave and you return, you are trespassing. also, he can kick you out of his store for any reason he likes, because it is his own property (or leased, but it doesn't matter). you do not have the right to behave however you like and say whatever you want and expect to be allowed to shop there. if he found you to be a nuisance then he can have you banned. in fact, f you return you can be arrested.
http://www.slsedmonton.com/trespass/


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26 Nov 2012, 12:43 pm

When my oldest son was around 12 years old he got a job as a roofing helper with his friend's dad. He worked every summer for years and then after school in the spring and fall. He then went on to other trades.

When my youngest son was about 12 he started doing yard work for people and now has a part time job at the store, helping them out. He sometimes works with a friends dad who does renovations. He's 17 now, and he is completely deaf in one ear and has ADHD.

My sons knew that there were certain things they wanted that we couldn't afford, so they took the initiative and worked for pocket money. If 12 year old boys can do hard physical labor like that, just to get the money that they want for extras then a grown man should be able to do something to get the money he needs to live.

I have AS and wasn't dx'd until my 40s. While I'm a housewife now, I wasn't always. I've worked a lot over the years. AS isn't always a reason not to work, although it can be for some people. By using your AS as an excuse and saying that you just don't want to work, you make some of those who truly can't work, look bad.

You should be ashamed of yourself that 12 year old boys were more of a man than you!


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26 Nov 2012, 1:31 pm

The moral of this story is don't talk to store employees. They are there to ring up your stuff and take your money, not to have conversations with.



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26 Nov 2012, 2:07 pm

WhiteWidow wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
OK, since you asked.....

Stop being a victim.

Stop thinking that it is the world around you that is the problem.

Realize that while one person cannot change everything, being a part of the community around him and being actively involved with the world can make more of a change in the world than something like playing the role of the "tragic victim" on an Internet forum.

Realize that currently you are only fooling yourself. You are pissed off at the world, and you are essentially responding to that by consuming spiritual and intellectual venom. You are only hurting yourself to spite the world around you, and that is the opposite of being a man.


You need to realize this. You need to say no. It was somebody else' fault you were abused. And it's
somebody else' fault at the very origin of economics, that you cannot be an artist, or an astronaut
or an engineer, or complete your dreams.


What if you just don't have the talent or intellect to be those things? Is that someone else's fault?

Here's a little piece of information that obviously nobody has told you. Life isn't fair. You have to deal with that you have. Play the hand that's dealt you, cause you can't get a new one. There are a lot of things I wanted to be, but circumstances meant that I couldn't. Well, that's that and I had to move on, not just sulk about it for the rest of my life.

It's somebody else's fault that I'm not 22 and married to Russel Brand, so therefore I'll never be happy!! !!


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26 Nov 2012, 4:12 pm

So I should be ashamed because:

I don't want to take a federal loan to complete Online courses that will not deliver
me a job appropriate in salary to pay off my debts before retirement age and will now take me 10+ years to complete
an engineering degree at an expensive public University, for a bachelor's and not a masters - because
it's the governments decision NOW, to force all individuals to re-take all their math and science courses from
grade 10 under loans to complete their pre-requisites.
EXCEPT
- I already completed social 30 and english 30 for an arts degree, and NOW 1 year later, I am a science kid!
People change. Time's don't. Time stays the same, always has, always will, until it's end function. And unless
someone with a cognitive or learning disability in relation to the majority of irrational communication, I need
to ask questions. And I can't ask a computer a question.
(AND I KNOW. AND I LEFT IT LIKE THAT - So you would read this next part.)
Now you're thinking "DURRR! YES YEW CAN!" No. Because asking a question requires eye contact to understand
the frustration in relation to difficulty of understanding, time required, and poly-gamma functions that
I do not understand, however, if I was able to rationalize with a computer, then perhaps the computer might understand.

It's like I've said before. I understand math. Great. But do you? You're teaching it. And your logic is
bass ackwards. No offense. But this is how I understand it - even though we have the same answer. And if
you're grading me on YOUR understanding, then of course I will fail. Because I'm being tested
on my understanding of irrationality.

as well...

The USD is 80% off it's 1935 average
Sub-Prime mortgages destroyed global economies
Goldman Sachs runs Europe
Communism and Capitalism is not only misunderstood, misconstrued, but combined to become
something completely ridiculous, where socialism exists within one economy, and capitalism
in another, rather than in one singular economy as a capitalist economy.
Liberatarian means Democratic and left-wing economy. Not
rational decision policies.
I should also be ashamed not only because I have aspergers like all of you,
but because I refuse to work for less than I feel that I'm worth, and the
longer the years go on, the less opportunities exist within the job
marketplace. And b/c they do, I'm now expected to become an "entrepreneur". Without the financial means.
I mean.. you could say "Why don't you run for political office then?" Well, quite frankly, I'm not a
free-trade supporter, and as it stands, the global economy is at it's most critical
interval in terms of commodities and currencies right now because
of shock-therapy programs designed by Harvard Economists to
create new currencies, hedged to new commodities, globally, and not
domestically. Hitler is a great example of a political office
that was able to legally force itself into power. Except, it didn't reveal
that it was receiving international political funding from private firms in the U.S.
rather than it's supporters in Germany. Nobody wanted Socialism, until
Jews were the problem for all of their economic problems.

Who is the jews now? The unemployed, the welfare, the people who were displaced
after the wars, raised by terrible and irrational parents, and kicked out for
misunderstandings only to be told that everything is their fault in the 21st century.

I think, you should be ashamed that you feel you have the right to pass negative
judgement on me, when infact you notice the same statistics as myself,
yet you fear to protest the situation, and instead dance to a new
song which you don't like yourselves. Nor do you
even understand the lyrics, or who the author's are
that composed the song. And if there's that one kid, or 144 million kids
sitting in the corner, not dancing, you point fingers and laugh and ridicule them.

Shame



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26 Nov 2012, 5:12 pm

It must be awfully convenient to have an entire world around you to blame for everything that you don't like in your life.

It certainly is much easier to talk about how much one is blaming the world around him than it is to take steps on improving oneself.

You want happiness and a content feeling in your life? Guess what? You have to work for those things. And if you choose to wait for external factors to hand those things to you on a silver platter, you better stop complaining and start getting used to waiting. But it is never too late to start holding your head up and making an effort to improve who you are. If people see that you have enough confidence to really build yourself up, chances are more opportunities will come your way.

Basically, I look at all of your words in this thread, and I see that your hostility is a thinly-veiled variation of self-pity.

What happened to me early in my life is not my fault. I still have PTSD and shame issues related to a lot of it. But I recognize that none of that has to shape who I am today, and who I will be in the future. But happiness takes work for all people - yes, even for all of those people who you like to blame for your decision not to work. It does not come from cash, material possessions, social circles, or anything external. It comes from building oneself up from within, by any means necessary. You don't sound willing to build yourself up, and you are using external factors as a convenient scapegoat for your irresponsibility.



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26 Nov 2012, 5:37 pm

How do you build if there are no values or opportunities to build on?

60's 70's. Psychedelics. Math. Music.

How many people do you know today that don't call people insane for using their imagination?

Maybe we should lock all the babies up too. They're innocent. Wouldn't want someone who
knows math or is liberal tainting their minds to become revolutionaries. Like lots of
people in Congress, or anywhere. It's not as if sovereign entities, rebels or revolutionaries
against nationalization don't exist. Every CEO, the CEO of Kodak is a liberal. He lost
his business operations because photographs became a dying trend, rather
than converting to digital photography, because of course that market is dominated
by mobile carriers, in specific Apple and Samsung. Steve Jobs. U.S. Congress pays
Steve for his design plans and in order to fund his corporation from the ground up.



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26 Nov 2012, 5:38 pm

I guess Woodstock was insane, I guess island of light, festival express and Jimi Hendrix are insane. Janis Joplin is insane.
Terrance Mckenna is insane. Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson were insane. Albert Einstein
is insane. Albert Einstein was a liberal, Einstein was not in support of the economy, even though
the economy paid him. Because Einstein knew that there were more opportunities to be explored
in a truly capitalist society where websites like Tor, or private neighborhood stock exchanges
and private central bank grass roots funding from small business' is encouraged. As well as
citizen share issuing, dividends and voting rights. I guess economists are insane. I guess
everyone who knows numbers, and values, and gains and losses is insane.

Were nothing but theorists. With crazy and lunactic ideas now.



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26 Nov 2012, 6:03 pm

None of those insane people you mentioned wasted their lives in self-pity and cynical despair. They worked and they built themselves up against odds that you will most likely never face.

Think about it.