Would like to talk with other Aspie/Auttie business owners

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01 Dec 2009, 2:52 pm

I am finding that there are some unique challenges (and strengths!) that go with being a business owner with Asperger's. (Did Bill Gates have AS?)

The social skills are always a difficult one when it comes to management. I am learning as I go what is "appropriate" for a given situation.

I have also learned that I am forced to be the leader, which means not burying my face in my computer and only coming up for air occasionally. It's an unusual role for me to be so..."social"? I don't know if that's the right word.

If you have a business and you are on the spectrum, I'd be curious to talk with you about the ASD side of owning a business. I am sure you have learned things that would really help me, and I hope I could do the same.

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01 Dec 2009, 5:31 pm

I was forced into going into business for myself simply because I could not get a job working for someone else. I live in a small town where word of mouth is important. Most of my business has been from people who were referred by family, friends, and acquaintances.


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01 Dec 2009, 8:26 pm

I would not say Social, but Public.

People are always trying to give me something other than what I ordered. Social is being nice about your objections, Public is saying that is not what I ordered. Get it right or I get someone else.

There I think we have an advantage, as long as we stick by the vision, make others come to it, rather than let them do it like they think is right, I only pay for what I ordered.

Only one person knows what they want, can pay for, and will lead to the income to keep going.

In school aspie is called nerd, at work, the boss.

It comes down to, are you doing the work assigned? No, I do not want to hear about your "Better way".

If you know that much, go start your own business, clean out your locker and be gone.

We are strange, so is a business plan, and we do not explain it to workers, suppliers, customers, or competitors, it is just done this way, or go somewhere else.

I find that my personality is a business, I do not care about a lot, and care a lot about a little.

Once they find that their super salesman method gets shown the door, my suppliers are all supporters of my business, not someone who is trying to game me into doing something that causes me to lose, they will either support, or never return.

You have sixty seconds, play or pass? Most waste it, when the bell rings, and they are told no, leave, they learn quickly to not waste time.

When it comes to structure, we see things differently, depth and detail, and can run a business, at the cost of being the Boss, direct, job related, and if you want to just chatter, invite me to dinner, and be nude. I will most likely refuse your offer.

Work is a whole other program that most have learned, and many spend their time avoiding. They show up, fill space, but when asked what they have done that made money for the company, have little to say. Unless you put the demand on them, they will never think of the company making enough to support a place to work, machines, supplies, their pay check, all of the taxes and costs that go with that.

If everyone did what I do, there would be no point of opening a business, and it is all a Trade Secret, now go to the corner of Forth and Main, carry a red shopping bag, and when a man comes and says, "Holland grows Tulips" tell him "The geese fly north in the spring". Return to your desk and never mention it to anyone.

Until they are trained, they will not function. An employee takes $250,000 in gross income to cover the costs and make a profit, make sure they know they are there for one reason.

In the real world we are a needed force.



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02 Dec 2009, 11:35 am

cyberscan wrote:
I was forced into going into business for myself simply because I could not get a job working for someone else. I live in a small town where word of mouth is important. Most of my business has been from people who were referred by family, friends, and acquaintances.


That's why I originally went into business. I was self-employed for a couple of decades before starting my weighted blanket business. I have found having so many people working for me, supply chain, financing, retailing, and other factors are quite different from being self-employed.

I am also forced into being a manager more than a collaborator like I was before.


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02 Dec 2009, 11:45 am

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I would not say Social, but Public.


I have a lot to respond to about what you wrote, but I'll start with the above quote.

I found that being public has been a very odd adjustment for me. As the owner, I am the public figure, the holder of the vision, the communicator of the vision, the enforcer, the cheerleader--all of it, as you know.

You said you were the nerd in high school and now you're the boss; it's the same for me. I was very, very quiet so I could avoid the whole social thing and not get teased. I dreaded being at school. It was an awful experience.

Now, I'm the boss, and I'm public. It's like the whole equation has been turned upside down in adulthood. I love my work, and I would rather work on my business than socialize.

Maybe the direct connection of "nerd in high school" is a precursor to "boss in adulthood" is true. I wonder how many people on the spectrum are self-employed or own businesses compared to the general population?


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02 Dec 2009, 5:28 pm

As adults, lots, being around for twenty years more than you, pre Dx era, the combination of not fitting into the social workforce, and having the focus to see a whole.

Put Business Owner in the DSM as a Special Interest, it is rare enough in the general population, and does produce five to ten times the jobs of big business or government. Small business is the economy, and the growing edge.

The vast majority expect someone else to figure out their life, and hire them. Computers have made the type obsolete. Jobs came from networking, knowing lots of people at a shallow level, and being social, fitting in where ever they went.

That model worked when most spent their lives in a small town, became weakened when they started moving every few years, no longer lifetime relations, but even more effort on fitting in.

A few years back among the apartment dwelling young, a job, marraige, ran for as long as the lease. It was a fine example of renting a life. Then they left everything behind, and started over on the other side of the country.

As long as employment was rising, they could just plug in anywhere, rent another year, for a decade ago employers were having to work the prison system to keep staff count up.

Computers were the watershed, many have thousands of Facebook friends, so they can pre set up their next life, but the other side is, computers do what they did, better, cheaper, faster, productivity is up 20%, unemployment is 20%.

Their goal, joining a group where they were all alike, and could be better than the people who were different. It was High School taken into the work world.

The nerds were left behind, but did have just as many hours, which were spent learning things, to make up for their lack of social grace, and spent more time looking at business structure than keeping up with who was dating who, worldwide.

No doubt about it, nerds developed computer marketing which took all the jobs of well dressed airheads. As they had no function but looking good, and having sex, they mostly moved back home with their parents.

Nerds who often lived in their parents garage, with Broadband, have been chipping away at brick and motar sales, it still has a long run coming, as online sales are only 10%. The very companies who funded on line marketing, paid nerds, are now the next target, as everything they do can be done better with a lot less overhead.

Nerds are like China, the despised of the world who will work cheap, but then build a better factory, and know all your customers. Few in business see the overall structure of their business, but nerds have to to set up the computers.

One of the main things I have discovered is there are unlimited small markets that are wide open. It may be really small, but if you are the only one in the world supplying it, it works.

The second would be the German Model, Mittlestand, companies that employ ten or less, do not want to grow or sell out, just focus on being the best of their class, making one or a few world class products, keeping up with developments, supporting their customers, and make more than workers in any other field. Their products will not be copied, for the setup cost is bigger than the market, and they have the market. These companies often are family, several generations, a few friends, and expect to continue forever. They can afford to own the latest machines, and spend years developing future products.

Everything flows to the big fish in a small pond.

So nerds do not have to take over the world, just pick the nerd size high profit small markets and keep quality and service the best. As they do not see the whole of the social world, but can learn all the tricks to a video game, they are naturals at small intense focus. Once automated, they can work on the next interest, and having a selection of small markets keeps overall sales up.

This has been going on for a while. The business story is Grandpaw started the company in his garage, after ten years could quit his day job, raised and trained a family, who then ran the company for forty years. Grandson inherets, and bankers tell him they will loan him the money to grow to ten times the size, and he does, ten times overhead, debt service, and the income of the company is just enough to give Bankers income on their investment, which when he misses a payment, the bank sells a company with a fifty year track record of good earnings.

Start small, find a constant small market, and stay small. Then start another project, markets do not last forever, look to the future, and think about your real business is building small companies. If it has been bringing in enough to support three people, and may for generations, might grow to supporting five, that is a very sellable company.

If you are a serial business creator, no one market decline can bankrupt you, and the high labor companies that pay the wages can be sold to people who would like to own their job. It is a good way to get rid of employees and turn them into supppliers. You can also get all the writeoffs before selling. Structure the sale over five years, it is all capital gains. If they screw it up you have a captive supplier.

All business is small, what makes the money is it, and everything else is hung on that. Most hire more to keep up, and never look at what they have, sometimes the path to being productive is getting rid of people. No one will give you a better deal unless you say, I want a better deal.

Work expands to fill the time alloted. There is always a lot of fluff and filler, don't be the one paying for it. Companies that went to a four day week, 32 hours, 20% less payroll, still got all the work done.

If you are not exploiting labor, it is exploiting you.