People who say unemployment is a vacation

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Alex_M
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13 Jun 2010, 11:29 pm

f**k them :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I'm trying to find a job so I can have money to go away for a weekend and see my boyfriend. Is that too much to ask.



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13 Jun 2010, 11:51 pm

Alex_M wrote:
f**k them :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I'm trying to find a job so I can have money to go away for a weekend and see my boyfriend. Is that too much to ask.


People who think unemployment is a vacation must think job hunting is a fun-filled Carnival cruise.
I don't get it at all. Looking for a new job is among THE suckiest things in life.

Best wishes on your job hunt. I hope you find a job that suits you well.


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14 Jun 2010, 12:23 am

yeah, looking for work sucks :/

been at it for 9 months all together since getting fired over a melt-down. Still really bitter over it. Sadly there are idiots who think there are positives to being unemployed. Stupid super-optimists, wish they would learn how s*** really is. :/


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14 Jun 2010, 1:29 am

Thank you SparrowRose and DemonAbyss. It's good to know that I am not alone in this.

I have worked customer service before (cashier) but right now that would not be suitable. I am a social science researcher in my heart of hearts, willing to work for minimum wage but not for free - rent has to be paid somehow. Unfortunately during a recession social service jobs are the first to be cut and agencies don't want entry level workers. But having a master of social work overqualifies you right out of fast food and retail.

Applying at McDonald's and not receiving a phone call sucks.



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14 Jun 2010, 2:33 am

I hear that. Job hunting is a pain!
I just graduated yesterday with a Mech Engineering
degree and I'm tripping over my laces just stepping
out thru the starting gate. I could never even secure
summer internships.

College taught me how to be an engineer,
not how to become an engineer.

I suppose I should feel lucky that I'm eligible to apply for such
a prestigious line of work, but the criteria are so STRICT
that it's even precarious for us graduates.

I for one find it degrading to put on a repugnantly bleak, black suit —
a monolithic nondescript slab of cloth signifying my surrender of all
personal creative intuition, and cut my hair, or grow it out
(depending on what it's like at the time).

And I hear rumors of engineering companies trading applicants' data
the same way auto insurance companies trade their customers' data.
Certain companies will collectively blacklist you for life if you answer
particular personality questions "incorrectly".

It feels like searching for a buried key in a minefield with a blindfold on.


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14 Jun 2010, 2:39 am

Of course, I realize that I'M the lucky one. I can afford to wait, and I've got decent prospects.

My point is, I'm super frustrated, so if you guys feel UBER-frustrated, that makes perfect sense to me. (Not in a smug way, but a sympathetic way.)


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16 Jun 2010, 5:01 am

I agree. People complain about making minimum wage (and rightly so) and then think I'm lazy cause I've never had a real job.

How much do I make spending 30 minutes online filling out a McDonalds personality test? Nothing, yet I've done it probably 20 times in 2 years not to mention Taco Bell, and all my other bright ideas. I did once land a job washing dishes but they fired me the first night for being too slow.



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16 Jun 2010, 9:45 am

"Treat it like a vacation"=relax when you can't. It's impossible. My mother told me the same thing last year, after what I gone through. She wants me to relax, and accept what happened.

I have been hunting for over a year, with barely a single job opening by the week. I'm right back in the possition I wanted out of only my entire life.



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16 Jun 2010, 9:59 am

Job hunting is a nightmare. The only way I've figured out to handle it is to not think, just do: instead of thinking about how horrible it is and how worthless it makes me feel, block it out with meditation.

I learned how to meditate when I was 11 or so, and the way I learned was from philosophy books that recommended that you make your mind go blank. Some of you guys can turn speech processing on and off, so that words sound like gibberish, and it's like that. You block off the stream of consciousness...whenever you start a line of thought, let it trail off into oblivion, like smoke into clean air. I'm not talking about relaxing, because you can do this just as easily walking around or doing an activity. It's hard for me to explain, but it is very helpful.



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16 Jun 2010, 5:12 pm

Sholf wrote:
Job hunting is a nightmare. The only way I've figured out to handle it is to not think, just do: instead of thinking about how horrible it is and how worthless it makes me feel, block it out with meditation.

I learned how to meditate when I was 11 or so, and the way I learned was from philosophy books that recommended that you make your mind go blank. Some of you guys can turn speech processing on and off, so that words sound like gibberish, and it's like that. You block off the stream of consciousness...whenever you start a line of thought, let it trail off into oblivion, like smoke into clean air. I'm not talking about relaxing, because you can do this just as easily walking around or doing an activity. It's hard for me to explain, but it is very helpful.



Have tried the meditation thing in the past, including taking classes for it. Only thing it really did for me was trigger migraines for some reason.


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17 Jun 2010, 12:54 pm

Pistonhead wrote:
I agree. People complain about making minimum wage (and rightly so) and then think I'm lazy cause I've never had a real job.

How much do I make spending 30 minutes online filling out a McDonalds personality test? Nothing, yet I've done it probably 20 times in 2 years not to mention Taco Bell, and all my other bright ideas. I did once land a job washing dishes but they fired me the first night for being too slow.


This is what I HATE about jobs like this. I mean, I can understand if I'm going for a career and you're going to pay me $50,000/yr then I should have to fill out the long personality form. But I mean come on, it's a job at McDonalds. It's not rocket science. And if I'm not good around customers, don't put me at the register.



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17 Jun 2010, 1:33 pm

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But I mean come on, it's a job at McDonalds. It's not rocket science. And if I'm not good around customers, don't put me at the register.


When I worked at McDonald's, I applied to work in the back, flipping burgers. In the interview, I asked to be put in the back, flipping burgers. The manager told me, "we put men in the back and women on the cash registers" and so if I wanted the job (which I did...well, at least I needed the job) I had to work the cash registers even though I knew very well by then that I was no good at customer relations (even though I didn't yet know I am autistic.) I had no choice in the matter. That manager preferred to put females on the front line for whatever reason, so that's where I got stuck.

I might have lasted longer than two weeks if they'd've just put me in the back like I asked for. I don't even know why they fired me. I have no clue what I did wrong.


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19 Jun 2010, 10:11 am

Sholf wrote:
Job hunting is a nightmare. The only way I've figured out to handle it is to not think, just do: instead of thinking about how horrible it is and how worthless it makes me feel, block it out with meditation.

I learned how to meditate when I was 11 or so, and the way I learned was from philosophy books that recommended that you make your mind go blank. Some of you guys can turn speech processing on and off, so that words sound like gibberish, and it's like that. You block off the stream of consciousness...whenever you start a line of thought, let it trail off into oblivion, like smoke into clean air. I'm not talking about relaxing, because you can do this just as easily walking around or doing an activity. It's hard for me to explain, but it is very helpful.


Thank you for the reminder Sholf. I have a really hard time meditating, so I tend to put it off until I don't remember it. I have a terrible memory, so that's really easy. Can you recommend some of the philosophy books that might help me? I'm currently reading Tsultrim Allione's book "Feeding your Demons". It's very helpful and I highly recommend it to everyone.



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19 Jun 2010, 12:53 pm

I don't know of any fancy intellectual books to reccomend, but as a teenager I really enjoyed Allen Watts and Joseph Campbell, both of whom were Westerners who were fascinated with Buddhism. Allen is where I first learned about mindfulness meditation.



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19 Jun 2010, 10:03 pm

A really un-fancy book that I've enjoyed is Thaddeus Golas' "Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment"


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20 Jun 2010, 11:47 am

I'm in a Union so "job searching" involves logging onto a website once a day to check dispatch. A slightly pointless excercise when there is 900 people on the books. I cann't treat it like a vacation because I'm dead broke without a job. Perhaps I should go back and work at Mc Donalds where I worked for about 10 years since I was 14.5 yr.