Someone out there please help me! I think my boss has AS!
Hello to anyone who might be able to help me out. I think that my boss may have Asperger Syndrom but doesn't know it. He is extreemly gifted at what he does (I mean extreemly gifted). In fact, most people either put up with him or all together hate him because of the way that he treats them. However, he is so good at his job that the upper managers that would fire anyone else want to keep him doing what he does best.
I've read about AS on wikipedia and he really seems to fit the profile. In fact, it was like reading a biography of him. What I really want to know is: 1) How should I and other employees interact with him? He is my boss and I want to do a good job, but I always seem to fall short. He interacts using a dry erase board and making diagrams, trees, or pictures to work through problems. I have a hard time doing this, but if we try to just discuss things he becomes instantly frustrated with me. He just doesn't get things verbally. I could go on and on, but let me ask question two. 2) I really believe that he has AS and so do others that work for him. How do I get info to help him without getting fired?
I've read about AS on wikipedia and he really seems to fit the profile. In fact, it was like reading a biography of him. What I really want to know is: 1) How should I and other employees interact with him? He is my boss and I want to do a good job, but I always seem to fall short. He interacts using a dry erase board and making diagrams, trees, or pictures to work through problems. I have a hard time doing this, but if we try to just discuss things he becomes instantly frustrated with me. He just doesn't get things verbally. I could go on and on, but let me ask question two. 2) I really believe that he has AS and so do others that work for him. How do I get info to help him without getting fired?
Well, by definition the main job of a "boss" is to manage people and money. If the senior managers are keeping him around for his skills in other areas then something is wrong. From your description, it doesn't seem likely they're keeping him around for being such an excellent boss...
1) You can try to compromize on the white-board issue. Try drawing a little and then talking a lot rather than trying to draw everything or nothing. The white-board is just a tool.
2) Part of me wants to say "leave it alone, it's not your job to diagnose your boss" and part of me wants to say "print out a web page from here or OASIS and accidentally leave it somewhere he'll find it. I think the first answer is probably better, though. If you are social friends then talking about neurology isn't completely taboo, but it's just not part of an employer/employee relationship.
It also pays to realize that sometimes there's no alternative but to look for alternate employment.
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What would Flying Spaghetti Monster do?
Sure you don't work for me? --- just joking -
I am an aspie and a boss. For starters I think in pictures. Since you cannot see my pictures without their being drawn I need to do the white board thing or verbally describe the picture and the progress pass through the picture...
Overall it is easier on others for me to draw than talk because when I verbally describe things people keep interrupting with issues that are covered on the parts of the drawing I have not gotten to yet. So I am stuck either having to tell them to be quiet and wait or jumping from place to place in the picture.
Here are some ideas:
Try asking for a verbal overview of the picture before your boss starts to draw. Maybe that will help you.
Your boss will either over or under explain everything. Help him calibrate to the level of detail you require.
Find one of your bosses obscessive interests and share it - you will bond.
Remember your boss has to calibrate to you the same way you need to calibrate to him.
If you can do this in a nice way - you are in a very good position. You will become your bosses trusted human contact interpretation, advance warning on political stuff, and otherwise well liked seeing eye human --
Any other questions about dealing with an aspie boss ask.
Julie
It doesn't really surprise me that a boss could have AS. In fact, it's very possible. There are probably quite a few bosses out there who possess traits who aren't even diagnosed. Better yet, some of them might very well even be diagnosed, preferring to keep it to themselves.
I really hate to say this, but in the current system ... some AS types may make great bosses. And they won't be the ones that many coworkers are going to enjoy.
Companies like rigidity in their bosses. They like employees to follow rules and stick to routines, so a boss with AS may very well make that happen without even realizing it. Some AS types can't stand people who tend to break the rules, and they may get very nasty about it.
I, for one, would probably not want to work for someone with AS, yet I tend to have it myself.
Being we have AS, however, we may able to strike a chord with a boss who appears to have it. We don't have to outright address him about the syndrome or anything, but rather just focus on what he like the most. As one has already stated, find his personal interest. If you can do this, you may be set for life.
- Ray M -
As for the question of if he has it or not, it is none of your business and you should leave it alone. One of the most important things I have learned about being an aspie is that ALL people need to stop making assumptions about how or how not to communicate and try to make a little more effor to comprimpise and show a little understanding.
Try to express your needs with your boss and let him know that you will be a more effective employee is you are able to use the communication methods you are comfortable with. But dont try to diagnose your boss because its not that easy. From an outsiders perspective, it can sometimes seem like everyone has AS, but only through intense analysis of a persons whole life can a diagnosis me made.
Does this decribe your boss? If it does, then he is a workplace bully that needs to be controlled.
http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm#Guru
Motivation: task focused
Mindset: confusion, inability to understand how others think and feel
Malice: zero to low; when held accountable, low to medium (it's often the absence of malice that identifies a guru type of serial bully) but could be medium to high if narcissistic or psychopathic traits are present
often successful in their narrow field of expertise
regarded as an expert
valued by the employer because s/he brings in the money, status etc
ruthlessly pursues objectives regardless of the cost
ruthless determination to succeed
can be successful over the medium term in their field
task focused
zero people skills
control freak
mainly but not exclusively male
often has a favourite who receives extra attention but who is expected to reciprocate with sycophancy
favours, protects and promotes non-threatening sycophants whilst marginalizing and hindering the advancement of those with higher levels of competence, especially in people skills
apt to betray those formerly favoured, especially when the favoured person starts to show independence of thought or action, or starts to receive more attention or become more popular than their mentor
a male Guru in a position of power may exhibit inappropriate sexual conduct
gauche, aggressive and unpleasant but not evil
may not be overtly attention-seeking but dislikes those around them getting more attention than they're getting, or getting attention which doesn't include the bully
selfish, self-centred, self-opinionated, dogmatic and thoughtless and with a tendency to pontificate
apt to throw temper tantrums when things don't go well or can't get their own way
emotionally immature, perhaps emotionless, sometimes cold and frigid
convincingly intellectualises feelings to compensate for emotional immaturity
intelligent (often highly) but lacks common sense
is happy to lie to suit own purposes
can have a rigid routine
does not accept responsibility for their own behavior
blames others for own inadequacies
refuses to recognise that they could have any shortcomings of their own
does not live in the present
usually extremely neat (for example, desk is always clear)
organized (sometimes overly)
tempts fate but always gets away with it
has stereotypical ideas about gender roles (though this may not be expressed consciously)
makes assumptions about others' thoughts
does not follow social rules, for example may display bad table manners in public
appears unable and unwilling to engage in and sustain small talk
seems unaware of the nature and purpose of rapport
seems to exhibit some symptoms similar to autism, although autistic people tend to be shy, introspective and lack manipulative skills and are usually the targets of bullying, not the perpetrators (it's unknown whether there might be a common cause or whether the similarities are just a superficial coincidence) [more on autism]
appears unable to read people and their thoughts and especially feelings
when held accountable exhibits genuine confusion as to why their behaviour is inappropriate
in cases where malice is low or absent the person my be regarded as somewhat avuncular or mildly jovial or charismatic in nature
likes the appearance of normalcy but rejects responsibilities of relationships
is unable to comprehend or meet the emotional needs of others
often puts work and duty above everything, including relationships
makes power plays, for example leaves the room when someone is speaking, or pretends not to hear and constantly asking a person to repeat what they just said, etc
doesn't share information about self (thoughts, insights, etc) and is not open to receiving this type of information from others (allegedly knows it all already)
secretive
possessive of objects and sometimes people
may view people as objects (this enables controlling behaviour of other people)
thinks of self as superior and above the law / rules / regulations etc (these only apply to other people)
uses denial as a defence mechanism
there are likely to be problems with succession
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