5 Signs To Know The Job Will Suck!

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22 Oct 2010, 12:35 pm

5 Signs To Know The Job Will Suck!

I came across this article and thought it might be to some help to other's looking for a new job. Some of us here don't have a lot of experience with job interviews. So please feel free to add any other signs you can think of for other's to watch for when being interviewed by future employers.

1. You get asked strange questions.

2. Nobody seems happy to be there.

3. You get a whiff of dirty laundry.

4. Your position doesn't have a title (or a start date or a job description).

5. Your gut tells you to run.


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22 Oct 2010, 12:43 pm

Taupey wrote:
4. Your position doesn't have a title (or a start date or a job description).


I knew someone who got hired by Altavista and when she asked what her job responsibilities were, she was told, "oh, just look at what everyone else is doing and then you do it, too."

I think she lasted all of one week there. And by the time they let her go, she still had no clue what it was she was supposed to be doing.


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22 Oct 2010, 12:51 pm

When you find out you weren't the company's first (second or third) choice for the job but the other selections either turned the job down or had been there and quit for something better. :?



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22 Oct 2010, 1:04 pm

Sparrowrose wrote:
Taupey wrote:
4. Your position doesn't have a title (or a start date or a job description).


I knew someone who got hired by Altavista and when she asked what her job responsibilities were, she was told, "oh, just look at what everyone else is doing and then you do it, too."

I think she lasted all of one week there. And by the time they let her go, she still had no clue what it was she was supposed to be doing.


This happened to me years ago, the manager who hired me became angry with me because I didn't do something she thought was in my non-existant job description, I told her it was her fault there was no job description not mine and quit. I heard soon after that she was fired.


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22 Oct 2010, 1:10 pm

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1. You get asked strange questions.


I like strange. I tend to fail the standard questions.


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22 Oct 2010, 1:12 pm

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When you find out you weren't the company's first (second or third) choice for the job but the other selections either turned the job down or had been there and quit for something better. :?


That's a great one, thanks. That's similar to when you realize that they (the employer) has to constantly advertise for new help because there is no one who will stay.

I believe when we go for interviews, we should be allowed to ask for references and all that as well.


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22 Oct 2010, 1:35 pm

Moog wrote:
Taupey wrote:
1. You get asked strange questions.


I like strange. I tend to fail the standard questions.


Oh Moog, it's you, :) I am surprised to see the cute bunny avatar. I was thinking you would have something more recognizably spiritual instead. :wink:

Like everything else, I imagine being asked strange questions during a job interview, can be both good and bad.


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22 Oct 2010, 2:04 pm

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Taupey wrote:
1. You get asked strange questions.


I like strange. I tend to fail the standard questions.


Oh Moog, it's you, :) I am surprised to see the cute bunny avatar. I was thinking you would have something more recognizably spiritual instead. :wink:

Like everything else, I imagine being asked strange questions during a job interview, can be both good and bad.


Well, I don't want to get typecast. :lol:

I agree, strange can be good or bad.


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22 Oct 2010, 2:43 pm

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Well, I don't want to get typecast. :lol:


I understand :D


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22 Oct 2010, 4:31 pm

I went to apply for a job once at a small bookstore there.

The lady in charge was obviously stoned on painkillers. The amount of training she offered was confined to pointing out the different book sections and the cash register and saying "I'm sure you'll get the hang of it" and I had no experience and she already wanted me to close.

She called me back to hire me and I said I couldn't take the job.

Previously I had not been so fortunate at avoiding bad jobs. Or I should say bad bosses.

If they do not have a formal training period, it's generally going to turn out poorly for someone with AS, because the boss has expectations they don't articulate and expect the employee to "just know". They don't realize that a person cannot "just know" these things frequently because they've been on the job for so long and it has become second nature to them. A good boss realizes this is not the case and can fully articulate to the employee what their responsibilities are give the person time to adjust and get oriented.



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22 Oct 2010, 5:06 pm

Chronos wrote:
If they do not have a formal training period, it's generally going to turn out poorly for someone with AS, because the boss has expectations they don't articulate and expect the employee to "just know". They don't realize that a person cannot "just know" these things frequently because they've been on the job for so long and it has become second nature to them. A good boss realizes this is not the case and can fully articulate to the employee what their responsibilities are give the person time to adjust and get oriented.

Definitely. One of the most important questions for me to ask at an interview is about training. I've discovered that "mentoring" is nothing like "training", it means you get thrown in the deep end and only get help when you explicitly ask for it, rather than being told how to do something in the first place.

It even bothers me when working for a big company and they don't do any induction type things on the first day, e.g. showing me around the building, explaining evacuation procedures, etc. I guess these things create more of a sense of control over the situation that NTs might not need so much.



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22 Oct 2010, 5:46 pm

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It even bothers me when working for a big company and they don't do any induction type things on the first day, e.g. showing me around the building, explaining evacuation procedures, etc. I guess these things create more of a sense of control over the situation that NTs might not need so much.


I find a way to distinguish a good or bad job is if they like you asking questions. A bad job will give you cursory training and expect you to 'just know' - asking questions after that is seen as impertinent.

At my current job, I have been sort of thrown into the deep-end, because it's a really fast-paced environment and there is no other way. What makes up for this fact is that I asked a million questions, and instead of being seen as slow, they took this as a sign that I was interested in doing everything to a high standard. A good employer will see that Aspie thoroughness as a potentially positive attribute. I am having to learn to multi-task and think on my feet, but as the same time, I'm doing something that comes more natural to me, taking care of standards in a sector where you lose money if you don't do complicated procedures correctly.



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23 Oct 2010, 2:24 pm

When I worked for AOL, they had a training period but it didn't cover everything so I had a mentor as well which sucked because he also was trying to do his job at the same time within the time frame allowed. It made it difficult for both of us in the beginning. I decided to ask other's who weren't as busy at the moment as he was sometimes and that worked out better. If you're working in a place that only has one other employee who is suppose to be your mentor, no doubt it would be difficult when the place got busy.


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24 Oct 2010, 8:19 am

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zer0netgain wrote:
When you find out you weren't the company's first (second or third) choice for the job but the other selections either turned the job down or had been there and quit for something better. :?


That's a great one, thanks. That's similar to when you realize that they (the employer) has to constantly advertise for new help because there is no one who will stay.


I read the want ads every week (even though I have a job). Part of it is looking for something that might be better, but I like to see who is advertising regularly for new openings.

Places aren't expanding operations. Constantly hiring means nobody wants to work there for long.



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Taupey wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
When you find out you weren't the company's first (second or third) choice for the job but the other selections either turned the job down or had been there and quit for something better. :?


That's a great one, thanks. That's similar to when you realize that they (the employer) has to constantly advertise for new help because there is no one who will stay.


I read the want ads every week (even though I have a job). Part of it is looking for something that might be better, but I like to see who is advertising regularly for new openings.

Places aren't expanding operations. Constantly hiring means nobody wants to work there for long.


That's a smart thing to do. I use to do it myself when I was younger and working for someone else. It's a great way to figure out who to avoid seeking employment with.


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28 Oct 2010, 5:08 pm

Taupey wrote:
1. You get asked strange questions.

2. Nobody seems happy to be there.

3. You get a whiff of dirty laundry.

4. Your position doesn't have a title (or a start date or a job description).

5. Your gut tells you to run.


This sounds like my first internship to a T. Nice people, don't get me wrong, just that they were so lost in their own social bubble that I don't think they had any other sense of how to behave with people. Very walled-in upper middle class family, it was a 'either you're like us or your not' type of thing, all work training was psychic or expected to be innate to my being an adult, and the first day I was asked 1) what kind of music do you listen to? 2) are you single? (everyone there is in a relationship), 3) how long have you been single? I think it was about three or four weeks into the job where I had incomplete tasks stacked up around me, my mind was in a forced daydream that I couldn't snap out of to save my life, and when I did get let go it took me at least a year to believe that I could actually fit - anywhere - in the professional world if that was the standard.

Needless to say when I find an interviewer slightly overbearing or thinking I'm a genius when I said nothing remarkable, when every reaction or action from them seems utterly disconnected as if they're not even reading or listening to me - I'll politely turn that offer down immediately.