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MrLoony
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25 Dec 2010, 9:28 pm

I've had jobs in the past, but I clearly don't fit into a standard job environment. I have a number of ideas on how to use my strengths and my interests to be able to obtain an income without having a traditional job. These take time and money, though, so I'm applying for disability and will be working towards them.

The thing is, I see a lot of people on this board talking about jobs as if they're the only possible source of income.

I want to hear from people that do not have a traditional job, but still have an income (aside from disability). What do you do? What's your average income? How did you get started? Are there any other things you feel should be said?


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25 Dec 2010, 10:25 pm

Not quite the same thing, but you can just work hard then retire early. I'm working in mining/oil & gas. Clearing $100K/year is easy. I'm just working until I've got ~1 million, then calling it quits. I should have that plus my condo paid off at about age 40, then I'll live off the interest. When I get my inheritance there's another $800K-$1m. At 5% returns that's $90-$100K/year in interest.

On that note, I think labor jobs are great for AS males btw... just show up, work hard, get paid big $. The lifestyle favors the stereotype of the typical AS adult male.... single, no kids, loner, not a drug user or boozer, robotic routines and schedules.



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26 Dec 2010, 5:30 am

I am a Coach & Consultant,

I sell information online.

get this I Teach BODY LANGUAGE AND SOCIAL SKILLS EMOTIONAL MASTERY. Hypnosis, Permaculture.
To neuro typical folks and I am an aspie.

Step out of the box. Join the Circle!

I make enough which is to say I get paid really well! And im working on a great Free coaching Package for aspies.


One thing Think for your self ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. It is simply a matter of RESOURCEFULNESS. <-- great word huh
I teach this type of stuff and its so easy it hurts to see people grind a 9 to 5...

Pm me and ill tell you more/ link you to my sit so you can see the type of thing I do!



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26 Dec 2010, 7:04 am

Start your own business.



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26 Dec 2010, 3:14 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Start your own business.

Starting his own business is hard work, even more so for aspies. For a lot of peoples here it might be downright impossible.

If I ever stop procrastinating I might write a book, and with alittle luck, publish it, and with even more luck, make money with it. Nothing else work for me, so it's the only thing I can do.
It certainly won't agree with the ones the OP is citing in his signature.


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26 Dec 2010, 3:17 pm

Tollorin wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Start your own business.

Starting his own business is hard work, even more so for aspies. For a lot of peoples here it might be downright impossible.


Why? I'm 16 and I run some small business ventures while I'm in college. If you have no job to quit, you have nothing to lose by trying no matter what happens.



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26 Dec 2010, 3:23 pm

A business isn't that hard to setup.

Social Enterprises and not for profits are more complicated.

My uncles always off starting n stopping businesses all the time. He's a bi polar spazz and still manages to earn a nice living out of it



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26 Dec 2010, 3:25 pm

Laz wrote:
A business isn't that hard to setup.

Social Enterprises and not for profits are more complicated.

My uncles always off starting n stopping businesses all the time. He's a bi polar spazz and still manages to earn a nice living out of it


Yep, and if you expand your business and run it well, you may very well get rich from it, too.



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26 Dec 2010, 3:36 pm

Key word IF

No garuntee's.



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26 Dec 2010, 3:39 pm

Laz wrote:
Key word IF

No garuntee's.


Of course not, but if you keep starting different businesses, and if you stick to them when they do well, your odds are good.

Getting rich isn't a complicated thing, it just takes time, effort, the willingness to take risks, and the ability to ignore people who attempt to dissuade you.



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26 Dec 2010, 3:48 pm

I have this image of you going to sleep reciting the ferengi rules of aquisition sometimes, i fear its probably more accurate then I dare to consider



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26 Dec 2010, 3:53 pm

I got my mind on my money, money on my mind.



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26 Dec 2010, 4:37 pm

Tollorin wrote:
For a lot of peoples here it might be downright impossible.


notcoyote wrote:
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.


Personally, I don't think I'll be starting my own business anytime soon. The only thing I can think of is starting a bakery, and I feel I'd have trouble selling the things I bake. It just seems like they should be gifts.

However, I'd have no trouble with writing or playing poker. For the first, I need to write (I already have half a dozen multi-book stories in my head). For the second, I just need to work on getting my bankroll up.

Although given how much I'm fiddling with this "magic gravity ball" my sister got me for Christmas, I'm worried that magic might be my next obsession.

One more thing, for people that want to start their own business (though I kind of include that in traditional job): One thing I've always heard is that the primary reason why businesses fail is because of a lack of accounting knowledge, rather than luck.

I'm actually surprised that no artists that work for commission have posted here. I would figure that there would be quite a few.


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26 Dec 2010, 4:50 pm

MrLoony wrote:
One thing I've always heard is that the primary reason why businesses fail is because of a lack of accounting knowledge, rather than luck.


A business with no cash will fail unless that problem is fixed, and a business with more money going out of it than coming into it will soon have no cash, so it's always good to keep an eye on what your bean counters are up to, yes. You do not need to be an accountant yourself, however.



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27 Dec 2010, 11:42 am

For a brief time I was setting up a commercial photography business. I had studied the field and determined that I was able to do a specific kind of photography that magazines would be willing to pay for. I sent out promotional material and got work fairly quickly. (This is extremely rare, but I'm a good photographer and I targeted my clients well.)

Despite the success I was having, what became intolerable was the requirement that I interact with people fairly closely. I became very anxious that every photograph I took would be a failure. The strain of this made the job so unpleasant that I had to drop out.

It was still a job that required daily work so I suppose it's not quite what you are looking for, but if you have the right attitude and the skills, it can be a way to go.

Regardless, I think if you are going to set up a business for yourself, you have to do a lot of research and you have to be very realistic. You cannot afford to think that things will work themselves out in the end. I would say give yourself a few years to do the research, make sure you have the needed skills, get the capital in place, determine what your clients REAL needs are rather than the needs you want them to have, determine how best to advertise your services etc.

When it comes down to it, if you want people to pay you a nice living, you need to be able to do something that others cannot or will not do. And that takes work.


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27 Dec 2010, 11:45 am

jagatai wrote:
Regardless, I think if you are going to set up a business for yourself, you have to do a lot of research and you have to be very realistic. You cannot afford to think that things will work themselves out in the end. I would say give yourself a few years to do the research, make sure you have the needed skills, get the capital in place, determine what your clients REAL needs are rather than the needs you want them to have, determine how best to advertise your services etc.


Knowing your sector, or at least, appearing to so you can attract employees who do, and investors who think you do, is important, but doing years of research is pointless. The early bird gets the worm, and time is money.

The guy who set up most of the big computer magazines you'll see today didn't know anything at all about computers. He just saw they were getting popular so he went after the market quickly.