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Gutcruncher
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30 May 2011, 1:11 pm

Is there a way (UK based) for getting suitable AS employment without having to compete with people? Competition is what keeps AS victims out of jobs, as employers will always want people without AS rather than people with AS. So to get a job I must bypass competition. How do I go about this? (I do not have parents who will just give me a job, as social workers etc expect to happen.)



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30 May 2011, 1:26 pm

I'm not a victim of AS, if anything AS gives me significant benefits over the NT's I'm competing with for jobs.
Competition doesn't keep me out of jobs - inability to use a phone and employers lack of recruitment skills keeps me out of jobs.

If high functioning enough you may be able to get away with not telling employers about being AS, if you would need to tell employers that you have AS then take advantage of guaranteed interviews which will put you significantly ahead of the competition and allow you the opportunity to show how AS can give you an advantage over NT candidates. Prejudice still exists of course, but really you may need to compete, it's a matter of putting yourself on equal footing with other candidates - being an aspie doesn't mean you're out of the running.

The only other way to bypass competition is to make a niche for yourself - be especially good at something so that you're head-hunted, or try a voluntary job where you don't have to compete not only to raise confidence but in some voluntary positions there may be opportunity for permanent paid employment if you prove yourself.


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30 May 2011, 3:28 pm

Bloodheart wrote:
I'm not a victim of AS, if anything AS gives me significant benefits over the NT's I'm competing with for jobs.

No, AS is a curse. I cannot see why people would think otherwise. I know I would be earning decent amounts of money otherwise.

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Competition doesn't keep me out of jobs - inability to use a phone and employers lack of recruitment skills keeps me out of jobs.

Competition keeps you and me out of jobs, we are competing against non-AS people, who employers prefer as there is nothing wrong with them. We are damaged goods, with a lower value. The job market is no different to a cattle market.

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If high functioning enough you may be able to get away with not telling employers about being AS, if you would need to tell employers that you have AS then take advantage of guaranteed interviews which will put you significantly ahead of the competition and allow you the opportunity to show how AS can give you an advantage over NT candidates.
Guaranteed interviews aren't guaranteed jobs. And guaranteed interviews are only a voluntary thing, only a minority of employers off them as a PR exercise.

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The only other way to bypass competition is to make a niche for yourself - be especially good at something so that you're head-hunted, or try a voluntary job where you don't have to compete not only to raise confidence but in some voluntary positions there may be opportunity for permanent paid employment if you prove yourself.
Not sure if voluntary jobs lead to paid employment.



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30 May 2011, 5:43 pm

Gutcruncher wrote:
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The only other way to bypass competition is to make a niche for yourself - be especially good at something so that you're head-hunted, or try a voluntary job where you don't have to compete not only to raise confidence but in some voluntary positions there may be opportunity for permanent paid employment if you prove yourself.
Not sure if voluntary jobs lead to paid employment.


I know that it is really really hard and dishartening when you're struggling to find work (I'm unemployed at the moment). What kind of job are you hoping for? Do you have a particular field/ area of work you're trying to get in to? I think that the suggestions above were very good; I know several people who got the job they have now through starting off doing voluntary work and not having to compete for the position but I think it depends on what kind of work you want to do. Unfortunately lots of jobs do go via personal connections; knowing the right people and being in the right place at the right time are often the best way to get a job. Something else to think about is that volunteering could be an opportunity to meet people in the field you want to work in who could recommend you to their ex-colleagues, customers, aquaintances etc. who are recruiting without the need for a formal application and interview. Good luck!