Needing to sing during team meetings?

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03 Nov 2012, 6:59 am

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After being made redundant from my prior job in a bank, I spent many months unemployed after failing interview after interview. I eventually became resigned to the realisation that I had become blacklisted at most financial services companies - I had been interviewed already and was assessed as being a waste of time interviewing again due to being rejected on the grounds of being a "bad cultural fit".

With extensive coaching from my psychiatrist, psychologists, and aspie therapy group I managed to regain some confidence and struck some luck when I interviewed at a telecommunications company. It was for an IT job that involved designing accounting/finance systems. I had an IT college degree and a finance/accounting graduate degree. That said, I had no idea about telecommunications so I spent 5 days memorising large chunks of stockbroker reports, annual reports, newspaper clippings, etc.

The hiring manager ended up acting a bit aspie himself - he spent the whole interview asking me about my iPad, asking me about my internet connection, a book I had written when I was 14, etc. The hiring manager then said I was the person for the job then told me he would ensure that I was interviewed by "easy" interviewers who he thought I would get along with (thus ensuring my selection). I was interviewed by the head of accounting and then the head of business analysis. I was then made an offer the next day which I accepted. I then started the following week.

The problem is that my manager, due to seemingly being a bit aspie himself, did not really get along with other managers. All his staff really hated him and kept complaining to HR. This resulted in him being transferred to a new area. He left me and the other team members behind. I was quite upset at the time given he did not even bother to tell me about it - I found out via an internal announcement.

Given his department no longer existed, I was tranferred to a new department - the web design team which houses all the creative designers. I immediately complained to HR noting finance/accounting has nothing to do with web design and was told to calm down - the problem is that the HR manager is the same HR manager from the bank!! He went on to say that I should view it as temporary - there is a restructure in progress.

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The new manager informed me of her "expectations" which I found rather an arrogant stance to take given I had not chosen to work with her in the first place. She then revealed the "team traditions" which includes singing to "foster creativity" - she then tried to cite some "research" from a journal I did not recognise to support her case. I told her I did not feel comfortable singing but I was happy to attend otherwise. She made it clear that not singing was "unacceptable" and that "everyone needs to do things they dont feel comfortable with at times". I felt she crossed a line at this stage - thus I told her I had no intention of singing and I noted I viewed her continued directives as workplace harassment. She claimed it was "not harassment". I responded that we should see what a judge thinks once I got my attorneys involved. Long story short, it went downhill from there.

They also hold team events (bowling), drinking sessions (nearly every work day), creative events (singing events, wearing costumes in the office). My psychiatrist and psychologists have been providing me with focused guidance - e.g. participate only in the structured events such as bowling since it is predictable and refuse to participate in the unstructured events such as singing since it is unpredictable. They mentioned it is important to go to some to avoid upsetting the new manager so try to go to 100% of the structured events to make up for the unstructured event non-attendance.

One unexpected benefit is that I no longer need to work weekends and late nights. The aspie manager had very high standards and was very pushy about everything being delivered very quickly - which was stressful and left me with no personal time. The new manager is all about socialising, finishing work early to "go to parties", etc. I used the reduced workload to do study telecommunications books, try to memorise names/faces better - this is much better for my career - I am no longer half-asleep and grumpy....knowing people's names makes them like me more and knowing about the telecommunications detail increases other people's confidence in me rather than thinking I am some banking guy in the wrong job.....

A problem is that the old aspie manager has now upset the new department as well - he keeps coming to me and asking me to help him (e.g. go to the people who dont like him and tell them they should give him a second chance, etc.). New manager hates him and says that if he is ever to approach me - I should not talk to him and instead send him directly to her. I was later told by another employee of hers that I was viewed as "lacking respect" towards her - something she noted after me refusing the singing and her realising that I was still meeting up with old manager.

The whole thing seems to be a bit of a disaster but there seem to be other aspies in the office - especially in the technical accounting and technical IT areas - and they have been teaching me lots of things which has been very helpful. So my thinking is that although the whole management situation is a bit of a basketcase, I should remain as I know I find it hard to find a job + I am improving my general skillset + I have only been in the job a couple of months.

Has anyone had such a situation before? Any ideas?



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03 Nov 2012, 7:36 am

That sounds like some kind of crazy stuff that those consultation companies come up with. It's nuts. But if it's singing in a group, just move your lips. You don't have to really sing. Fake it. If they want you to sing alone, then do so but do it so off key and horribly that they will never ask you to again.


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03 Nov 2012, 7:48 am

We do this stuff once in awhile, just play along with it. It'll go by a lot faster.



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03 Nov 2012, 8:16 am

That sounds horrifying to me and I'd be quitting and walking out right then and there if anyone tried to force me to sing.

Even in reform school where they were pretty strict and controlling and the threat of an extended sentence loomed over you if you refused to obey they still couldn't make me sing. The time I even did try no sound would come out.



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03 Nov 2012, 1:33 pm

Did they put this on the job description?



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03 Nov 2012, 6:33 pm

What does HR have to say about this mad behaviour???



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04 Nov 2012, 2:33 pm

Um, well...wow. Go along with it for now and start applying for other jobs. It looks better on your resume you are working. If it comes up during the interview why you are quitting, site that you're looking for a position that you can do your job with, or some crap like that which explains that you totally got shoved into a different position you applied for and are being demanded to do stuff that isn't in your job title. (I come up with this stuff better on the fly. Maybe someone else has a better idea.) Give yourself a little time and if it doesn't get better, quit.

Have you tried discussing with the manager why she feels it is important to sing? Maybe if you saw her point of view, maybe you could at least understand and go with it, and maybe you could come to some compromise. One thing I've learned about work too is that they want someone (unless you're in a speciality or high scrutiny position) who can make them the most money for least cost and cut corners the best. They may find you easily replaceable. Just don't hold on to the job as if it is your only source of income. The economy is picking up and there are more positions out there. That's how I got my job.



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13 Nov 2012, 4:22 am

OliveOilMom: Yea, that's what was suggested to me - move my lips whilst being around others who are actually singing.

thewhitrbbit: Yes, I suppose one method is going along with it. That said, it conflicts with my personal values and when something conflicts with my personal values I cannot bring myself to participate.

hanyo: Yeah, I was thinking of just boycotting the whole thing. I dont want to resign - it took me over 50 interviews and 6 months to actually get a job.

ianorlin: No, it was not in the job description. Indeed, I dont even have a job description! They dont believe in such things as we need to be "open to change" and "agile".

BlueMax: The HR guy is the same guy who dismissed me from my bank job. He sometimes comes to me and asks "so how is everything? staying out of trouble?". I think he might be hinting that he expects me to along with such things and not make a fuss.

MrObvious: Yeah, I have started trying to at least do an inter-departmental transfer. That said, my key concern is that I could end up with a more fustrating manager!! The good thing is my manager has no understanding of what I do - thus she never actually reviews my work. All I need to do is show up to a 30 minute meeting with her every fortnight. I take a structured agenda with me to each one and talk to her using scripted points that I have practiced (but keep to myself). That way I take up the full 30 minutes and ensure I only tell her things I want her to know. My other side says given she has no idea - she is not in a position to be teaching me things so I can improve my knowledge and skills.

In any event, her 2 buddies got dismissed a day ago - it was the gang of 3 that came up with all this singing business. Given she is now alone with no powerbase, I am hoping she will just drop the idea.



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13 Nov 2012, 4:25 am

aaahchu wrote:
Yea, that's what was suggested to me - move my lips whilst being around others who are actually singing.


That is what I did in school but the last time I had a music class was in grade school.



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13 Nov 2012, 8:20 am

If you sing badly enough, they may never ask you to do it again.
How off-key and annoying can you sound?


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15 Nov 2012, 12:19 am

Go along with the singing for a while.

Then, you might wish to say you would love to contribute to the team environment by suggesting other group activities, like a group game you might know.



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15 Nov 2012, 8:11 am

It would have to be a very cold day in Hell for me to sing anywhere, especially at work. In fact, if the boss required it, I would very likely punch him. (note that i'm self employed)