When NTs are trying to force you to think inside the box

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09 Jun 2013, 7:33 pm

I was wondering if people had similar experiences with their work place.
I find myself often noticing things no one else notices, and I usually work at finding solutions to problems pretty quickly. But when I try to report my findings or implement my solutions, I often get ridiculed by the NTs who work with me. When I have a solution that can save millions to the corporation, the reaction is often "if you're the only person who sees this problem out of the thousands of employees, then the problem doesn't exist." To me it is as if everyone is in deny, but to them, I'm really seeing things that aren't real. It can drive me insane sometimes, and this often results in near meltdowns after I start being ridiculed by my superiors. It is really a pattern that keeps repeating itself. I'll spend 3 hours isolating the cause of an issue affecting millions of clients, and when I am ready to report it to IT, the people there get mad at me for "wasting their time." They'll say things like "just do your job and let us do ours." The sad thing is my higher up boss actually knows I'm "not on the same planet." He often is baffled by how quickly I process information and even once admitted that I showed more adaptation skills then all my own superiors. But regardless of what I can do, the truth is I'm at the lowest rank of the company, not having done any schooling. So can you blame them? I don't know.... I either have to change jobs or find a way to get a different role in the company. I've tried resorting to "dumbing myself down" or pretending like I don't see what I see or know what I know, but this usually results in an accumulation of frustration that increases the risk for a meltdown... And speaking of meltdown, I've recently had a big one and went on sick leave to avoid making more damage. I have a lot of time to think about all this and am not yet ready to give up on them. I don't blame NTs for anything that is happening to me, but I wish they would understand how NTs and Aspies complement each other in an organisation and that being an Aspie doesn't necessarily mean I should look for a different job....

How about you, have you had similar conflicts in the workplace when your outside the box thinking came into direct conflict with other's inside the box thinking? And how did the situation evolve over time? Should I keep hope that corporations can come to a better understanding of the kind of skills I have to offer? Or have any of you successfully transformed yourself into an NT to be able to keep your job and your sanity?



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09 Jun 2013, 9:35 pm

Johnny333 wrote:
I was wondering if people had similar experiences with their work place.
I find myself often noticing things no one else notices, and I usually work at finding solutions to problems pretty quickly. But when I try to report my findings or implement my solutions, I often get ridiculed by the NTs who work with me. When I have a solution that can save millions to the corporation, the reaction is often "if you're the only person who sees this problem out of the thousands of employees, then the problem doesn't exist." To me it is as if everyone is in deny, but to them, I'm really seeing things that aren't real. It can drive me insane sometimes, and this often results in near meltdowns after I start being ridiculed by my superiors. It is really a pattern that keeps repeating itself. I'll spend 3 hours isolating the cause of an issue affecting millions of clients, and when I am ready to report it to IT, the people there get mad at me for "wasting their time." They'll say things like "just do your job and let us do ours." The sad thing is my higher up boss actually knows I'm "not on the same planet." He often is baffled by how quickly I process information and even once admitted that I showed more adaptation skills then all my own superiors. But regardless of what I can do, the truth is I'm at the lowest rank of the company, not having done any schooling. So can you blame them? I don't know.... I either have to change jobs or find a way to get a different role in the company. I've tried resorting to "dumbing myself down" or pretending like I don't see what I see or know what I know, but this usually results in an accumulation of frustration that increases the risk for a meltdown... And speaking of meltdown, I've recently had a big one and went on sick leave to avoid making more damage. I have a lot of time to think about all this and am not yet ready to give up on them. I don't blame NTs for anything that is happening to me, but I wish they would understand how NTs and Aspies complement each other in an organisation and that being an Aspie doesn't necessarily mean I should look for a different job....

How about you, have you had similar conflicts in the workplace when your outside the box thinking came into direct conflict with other's inside the box thinking? And how did the situation evolve over time? Should I keep hope that corporations can come to a better understanding of the kind of skills I have to offer? Or have any of you successfully transformed yourself into an NT to be able to keep your job and your sanity?


I've experienced the same problems. What NT's generally want is team players. It's best to keep one's ideas to one's self until one has the authority to try them out. When you offer new ideas that aren't solicited, the people who are in charge of making the decisions don't like it. And those are usually the people one has to keep happy in a job.



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09 Jun 2013, 11:51 pm

I got fired from jobs and didn't understand why for so long until I was older.
It made no sense to me and it was so frustrating but yes, most NTs care more
about the politics of the work place, making friends with the right people
and being popular but not about the work or doing a good job.



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10 Jun 2013, 2:09 am

I work in government. <---- this says a lot more than written...

I could so easily straighten up the knot that is "process", and I've mentioned it to my manager several times. Even offered to sort it all out, I'll do all the leg work, just give me two months and I'll have a routine so perfect and streamlined, PLEASE....

But alas. No. They are in charge, and though the complain like hell and don't have a clue what is what. They won't let me put my finger in that pie.



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10 Jun 2013, 9:21 am

Lol.... And we're the "crazy" ones ;-)

It feels good to know I'm not alone



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10 Jun 2013, 11:52 am

The objection I hear is how can a disabled person have any good ideas?



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10 Jun 2013, 2:00 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
The objection I hear is how can a disabled person have any good ideas?


Tell them the joke about the flat tire and the insane asylum.

Basically, a guy is changing a tire and kicks the hubcap...sending the lugnuts down a nearby street drain. Wondering what to do, a voice from the other side of the fence (asylum) says, "Take a nut off the other 3 wheels and use it to put the 4th wheel on."

The driver looks at him and says, "That's a smart idea...I'm impressed."

"Why?" asks the inmate, "I'm in here because I'm crazy, not stupid."



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10 Jun 2013, 2:59 pm

People in supervisory or management positions don't like it when someone under them comes up with an idea they missed. Rather than explore it, they prefer to ignore it.
In my experience, it is pointless to bring up things like this to bosses. It just ruffles their feathers.



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10 Jun 2013, 5:12 pm

It baffles me how I would not ever be aware of these politics in any intuitive way. So naive in a way, no wonder I'm always getting into tough situations...

Well I guess I am hopeful though, received an official diagnostic this morning and am now starting pms-clonasopam medication, also getting a break from work and will soon start consulting in a psychology clinic specialized in asperger.

Hopefully this will be beneficial in reducing my workplace struggle.