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zeldapsychology
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04 Nov 2013, 3:47 pm

IMO "Job" is some retail food industry you don't like and then come home depressed/tired go to bed wake up and do it all over again tomorrow! YES! You make an income but no time to enjoy it! Sooner or later MAYBE move out put that income towards RENT/FOOD but no fun! Family goes on vacation nope YOU HAVE A JOB! They do fun stuff NO YOU HAVE A JOB! Wake up work home depression/sleep (rinse/repeat)

I held a job for 3 months at Mcdonald's and was depressed would come home stressed/tired and go to bed. My parents believe that's life they are "tired too" I'm on SSI Disability but fear I may lose it once again!

They see getting your Bachelors as "Oh! A Bad sign!" in keeping your monthly check! :-( I don't see how people juggle academics AND a JOB!

Yes they can WHY NOT ME! But I don't feel I can manage that! :-( I don't know where to begin!

We are still going through the court process but dad feels "Hey you can work" but if I break down crying a lot and am very sensitive how can I handle a pile of work that's not "routine" 20 people to deal with vs. 10 MELTDOWN CRYING!

I can't MULTITASK! I do one thing at a time! I'm constantly in a fog state! Constant anxiety/depression!

Yet you can get a Bachelors OH! Issue!

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04 Nov 2013, 5:13 pm

It seems to me that what your family doesn't understand the difference between a fast food employee and a psychologist. Someone working at McDonald's would have to deal with 10 to 20 people at a time, whereas a psychologist only has to work with people and their families one on one.


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04 Nov 2013, 6:49 pm

Depending on what you want to get your degree in, that's what student loans are there for. I put myself through school on them and didn't work a day while in school (aside from schoolwork, which had a habit of eating up all 16 hours of the day!). I only recommend that if you go into a lucrative field with good job prospects though. You do not want to put yourself through school on loans for something like history or literature, because then you'll still be working at McDonalds but with $50k in debt on top of you.

Working in school is easily possible if you get a part-time job and have an easier major like business. If you have one of the harder majors I would not recommend working at the same time, because either your grades or your sanity will suffer because of it.



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04 Nov 2013, 7:18 pm

Yeah I would be hesitant to get a bunch of student loans if your having trouble working.

Have you looked at jobs like office automation? Document scanning and such? It's very simple and you don't really have to multi-task.



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04 Nov 2013, 7:38 pm

Passing a degree is very different to working, there's disibility there for reasons. It is not worth having a job is the jobs that are not within your means doe's cause siqnificant health problesm. I'm a graduate myself and can't function very well in the vast majority of low paid, high responsibility and manual work with too much information processing and communication processing going on. I get fatigued, migrains, hallucinatory phenomena and other issues.

In my economy, it would cost the government more in health bills and working the minimum wage than it is on sickness benefit and not needing healthcare services.

I do strive for a job that involves computing, its systems and information managment of some king with part time hours, and a more calmer invironment.


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04 Nov 2013, 8:28 pm

I'm not sure that I understand the question...are you asking how to hold down a job while attending college? I agree with what a previous poster; if your major requires a lot of work/time (such as a STEM major), there's a good chance that you won't be able to have a job at the same time. On the other hand, it may be possible during some portions of your student life. I majored in physics and was able to hold down a part-time student job during the early years of my studies. The key was that, as a student worker, I worked on campus. That eliminated the stress of a commute. Also, the job duties were directly related to my coursework (I tutored math); that eliminated the stress of having to exercise a totally different skill set for the job. I almost always worked with only one student at a time, so the social aspect of the job was not too terrible.

There are even easier student jobs. I had a job on-campus tending a small specialty library. It was very quiet, I was the only person working on my shift, there was almost nothing to do, and almost no one ever came there because it was not one of the main libraries. Eventually, however, I had to give up on even this job because my coursework became too time-consuming. I would recommend these types of jobs for someone with an ASD. Working in out-of-the-way little places on campus is relatively stress-free, and student workers often have much flexibility in the number of hours they work.

Personally, if I were in your position, I would avoid going into student loan debt. Degrees don't necessarily lead to jobs nowadays, and there are many ways to learn job skills on one's own. However, taking one or two community college courses for the purpose of being eligible to work a student job (not necessarily to complete a degree) is something that may be appealing. Student jobs are relatively easy to get, pay as well as, or sometimes better than, fast food/retail, and are more stable because the school is invested in helping students. If the job doesn't work out, it's over at the end of the semester or quarter. In the meantime, you get work experience that may help you to get a better "real-world" job. And, you would still be making progress toward your degree, if only very slow progress.



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04 Nov 2013, 8:30 pm

If you have certain skills and reliable Internet access, you can also work online. I have made $800 per month tutoring math online (tutor.com), $100 per month as a freelance writer (elance.com, but, even better, odesk.com).



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04 Nov 2013, 11:47 pm

Everybody says yeah it stinks but there are always Help Wanted signs and when you are desperate you got to to do what you got to do. They are wrong

Working in a place place like McDonalds or any place that serves food is one of the worst jobs possible for a person on the spectrum. To start you have to multitask, it is sensory hell lights, noise, food smells. Not only do you have to deal with a lot of people you have to deal with people who automatically think they can treat you like crap because you work "in a place like that" . As a busboy, waitress, cashier etc you need to be dexterousness.


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05 Nov 2013, 5:41 am

zeldapsychology wrote:
IMO "Job" is some retail food industry you don't like and then come home depressed/tired go to bed wake up and do it all over again tomorrow! YES! You make an income but no time to enjoy it! Sooner or later MAYBE move out put that income towards RENT/FOOD but no fun! Family goes on vacation nope YOU HAVE A JOB! They do fun stuff NO YOU HAVE A JOB! Wake up work home depression/sleep (rinse/repeat)


That's part of the reason I don't work. I don't know how people can stand it. To me work means being exhausted and miserable all the time to barely make any money which you are too exhausted and miserable and don't have time to enjoy, assuming you even have any left after paying your basic bills.



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05 Nov 2013, 8:09 am

hanyo wrote:
zeldapsychology wrote:
IMO "Job" is some retail food industry you don't like and then come home depressed/tired go to bed wake up and do it all over again tomorrow! YES! You make an income but no time to enjoy it! Sooner or later MAYBE move out put that income towards RENT/FOOD but no fun! Family goes on vacation nope YOU HAVE A JOB! They do fun stuff NO YOU HAVE A JOB! Wake up work home depression/sleep (rinse/repeat)


That's part of the reason I don't work. I don't know how people can stand it. To me work means being exhausted and miserable all the time to barely make any money which you are too exhausted and miserable and don't have time to enjoy, assuming you even have any left after paying your basic bills.



EXACTLY HANYO MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! I was thinking about my mom. She gets up early 5AM work/home/kids/ball games till 9:30PM FINALLY home and bed. Wake up do it again tomorrow. rinse/repeat no time to enjoy life/sit down or vacation even "vacation" = arguing with the 14 yr. old b***h little sister! What then up and die! and she has NOTHING to show for it!

I might seem "lazy" but if I die I can say I enjoyed entertainment video games Mario Zelda enjoyed myself got invested in Doctor Who and television. I didn't waste away with a job raising kids getting married I ENJOYED MY LIFE! What little time I have on this earth vs. what she does! SHEESH! :-)



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05 Nov 2013, 10:14 am

Who's paying the bill for you to enjoy video games? Who's paying the bill for you to relax? Your mom? Tax Payers?

Someone has to make the money to pay for food, shelter, video games, etc.

I work because that's what you do. It allows me to make money which I can exchange for goods and services. Yeah sometimes it sucks, and I've missed a few family vacations due to work, but that's part of being an adult. With the money I make I can live on my own, buy what I want, go on vacation when I want. It sucks sometimes to come home tired.

But it's part of life. If no one worked, there would be no money for anything.



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05 Nov 2013, 10:23 am

thewhitrbbit wrote:
Who's paying the bill for you to enjoy video games? Who's paying the bill for you to relax? Your mom? Tax Payers?


For me it's my mother. When she is gone I don't know what I'll do.



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06 Nov 2013, 9:23 am

I hated fastfood, but I hated the gas station more. I work in an assisted living facility now, third shift. I give them their 8 pm meds then they all wander off to bed until 630 am



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06 Nov 2013, 9:37 am

zeldapsychology wrote:
I was thinking about my mom. She gets up early 5AM work/home/kids/ball games till 9:30PM FINALLY home and bed. Wake up do it again tomorrow. rinse/repeat no time to enjoy life/sit down or vacation even "vacation" = arguing with the 14 yr. old b***h little sister! What then up and die! and she has NOTHING to show for it!

I might seem "lazy" but if I die I can say I enjoyed entertainment video games Mario Zelda enjoyed myself got invested in Doctor Who and television. I didn't waste away with a job raising kids getting married I ENJOYED MY LIFE! What little time I have on this earth vs. what she does! SHEESH! :-)


Your mother has her home, her marriage, and her children to show for it. Her legacy of love in taking care of you will last beyond her own lifetime, even after she dies. Your memories of video games and TV shows will die with you.



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06 Nov 2013, 9:40 am

It sounds like your mom is busting her butt to make money so you can sit around and play video games all day. Seems kinna unfair that you choose not to work.



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07 Nov 2013, 1:09 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Everybody says yeah it stinks but there are always Help Wanted signs and when you are desperate you got to to do what you got to do. They are wrong

Working in a place place like McDonalds or any place that serves food is one of the worst jobs possible for a person on the spectrum. To start you have to multitask, it is sensory hell lights, noise, food smells. Not only do you have to deal with a lot of people you have to deal with people who automatically think they can treat you like crap because you work "in a place like that" . As a busboy, waitress, cashier etc you need to be dexterousness.


Yes, this is the reason I nearly smoke myself into a comatose state and play World of Warcraft instead of anything meaningful to society after coming home from a shift at my restaurant. Thankfully, there are two other spectrum folks I work with who just by being able to relate to them, make my experience much better. If I didn't love cooking and absolutely NEED the kinesthetic stimulation of moving constantly in very predictable, almost graceful ways (if I'm not a total klutz that day :oops: ).... I don't think I could get through one shift. At this point I want to retire from the industry and finish my schooling---the only thing is that it's been hard to hold jobs without a degree, who's to say it would change, $50k in debt later?

So by necessity as ASPartOfMe mentioned, is exactly what and how I kept getting and losing jobs. I had no support so I had to make money somehow so I just put myself through hell, anchoring on the one thing in low level employment that was truly enjoyable, cooking food. (of course free meals when you're poor is good too)