Contacted by scam company--feeling depressed, help.

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20 Jun 2014, 2:13 pm

I have been working as a clerk but I only did 2 hours once a week for three weeks. I am going to start doing five hours a week now, but I refuse to go to college so my father says I need to work full time.

Today, I applied to many jobs online and two companies contacted me. I was very excited at first because they appeared to be high paying marketing jobs, but then I did some research and many people said that they are door to door sales jobs and that it is a scam. The company has very little Twitter followers, and Instagram with corny memes and pictures of alcohol, and their Facebook posts grammatically incorrect quotes that say things like "Stay Positive" or they just say ratchet things. The CEO of the company's picture looks like he is 21 years old and it plays loud, obnoxious music on their company website.

I don't think it's legit because I got emailed about 2 hours after I applied with these marketing companies saying things like "after review of this application, I am very interested in you... please call me at this number to see if you are a good fit. And, I have only had one job and one volunteer job and I only went to high school. I don't think it's accurate because I looked up the job and it says they make like $50 an hour but there's no way a real company would want me out of HS for that job and so quickly. It makes me depressed though, because I was really excited at first and before I found out it was iffy, I stimmed quite a bit thinking of getting my own house someday and proving people wrong about not needing college.

Should I feel depressed about this?


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20 Jun 2014, 2:58 pm

Being on the look for a job can indeed be depressing. If I were you, I would just try to investigate the companies more, maybe give them a call. If you find them a bad fit, there are lots and lots of other companies out there.

Being in the same position as you, I can understand how it must be depressing. But the only thing you can do is keep going at it. Keep applying for jobs. Get help writing a stellar application ( this can make a HUGE difference. )

Also try to make a few open applications and send them around. The good thing about open applications is that you can be really creative with them. Add pictures, drawings, add a background color, experiment with fonts etc... If you make your open application pop out, without making it "scream" at the reader, you will attract the employer's attention. And, if you're really brave, hand them out along with your resume in person. But be sure to deliver the application + resume to the manager or a HR person.

Why do you refuse to go to college, though? A college education will help you. You don't have to have a degree to get a job, but it will make it easier.


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20 Jun 2014, 4:58 pm

I'd say that it's rational to be a little depressed. One, just that the world is that way.

And two, this might be a vivid reminder of how far you and your father are apart. His mental image of the economy might be the go-go years of the late 80s, and then after a relatively small bump in the early 90s, the go-go years of the late 90s. And the economy just --- unfortunately --- is not like that anymore.



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20 Jun 2014, 5:10 pm

Girlwithaspergers wrote:
. . . I don't think it's legit because I got emailed about 2 hours after I applied with these marketing companies saying things like "after review of this application, I am very interested in you... please call me at this number to see if you are a good fit. And, I have only had one job and one volunteer job and I only went to high school. I don't think it's accurate because I looked up the job and it says they make like $50 an hour but there's no way a real company would want me out of HS for that job and so quickly. . .

I'd say you read this company as a scam quite accurately. There's no way you can make this much per hour unless you sell more than anyone else in the history of the company. It's a pipe dream. What they are stating is not at all realistic.

In general,

if a company pays a base hourly wage + commission, it's legitimate.

if it only pays commission, it's a scam.

And sure, there's going to be exceptions on both sides, but based on the information available, like a poker hand, if it's commission only, I'm going to fold the hand. It's just not worth it to get my hopes high, to spend a lot of my time, to put wear and tear on my vehicle, for something most likely to be a scam.



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20 Jun 2014, 8:39 pm

You should not be depressed because at age 18 with a condition associated with poor reading of others motivations, you figured them out. Good Job.


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21 Jun 2014, 6:39 pm

Girlwithaspergers wrote:
Should I feel depressed about this?


No. You should feel pretty good that you recognized it as being too good to be true & thus a scam that you shouldn't spend your time or energy on. Not everyone would bother to do a search about a company and take note of the red flags you noticed.

Just forget about it and move on to applying for more jobs.

As for college.. I went, but it's not necessary for success if you're good at something and don't require a college education to excel at it and earn a living. I know many financially well off people with great careers who never went to college. They just worked hard, learned on the job and from other life experiences etc.

Just keep applying until you get a job, then do the best you can at that job until you're ready to move on to a bigger better opportunity once it presents itself.


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24 Jun 2014, 8:30 pm

I almost fell for a very similar scam when I was exactly your age. I only really escaped it because it required door-to-door selling, and I didn't have a driver's license, which you really need for that sort of work. I had already been somewhat suspicious, but their reaction when I told them I didn't think I could do it without a license clinched it for me. They became rude and abusive at that point. Don't feel bad about it- as others have said, at least you realized it was a scam. I ended up working at Rite Aid instead. Just keep on looking for work, and you'll find it.


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13 Jul 2014, 11:26 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
You should not be depressed because at age 18 with a condition associated with poor reading of others motivations, you figured them out. Good Job.


That's right!! ! It's good you figured it out! I heard (by way of TV News/ABC NEWS) that Convergys and Alpine Access are legit. Also, beware (just like another WP member warned you) beware of Co's that offer only commissions and not actual wages. If you had given personal info to a scam company, most likely that have stolen/sold your identity via your social security number as well. You may have to contact the authorities about this - contact the FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION.
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Good luck, take care, don't worry. Just keep an eye out for anything unusual if and when you ever apply for a credit card or bank loan. Check with your local library if they have a publication called "Taking Charge" - What to do if your identity is stolen. Also, tell your parents.



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14 Jul 2014, 5:59 am

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
Girlwithaspergers wrote:
In general,

if a company pays a base hourly wage + commission, it's legitimate.

if it only pays commission, it's a scam.

And sure, there's going to be exceptions on both sides, but based on the information available, like a poker hand, if it's commission only, I'm going to fold the hand. It's just not worth it to get my hopes high, to spend a lot of my time, to put wear and tear on my vehicle, for something most likely to be a scam.


Key exception....sales.

Salespeople often work commission only, so if an opportunity is based on commissions, it's a sales job...no matter what they call it.

Edward Jones uses "financial advisers." They have hiring standards (they won't hire you if they don't think you can do the job), and they pay you a salary commensurate to your current earnings for the first two years...weaning you off onto total commissions by the end.

Commission only is great for people who are good at closing deals. Horrible for those who can not.



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14 Jul 2014, 8:35 am

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
if a company pays a base hourly wage + commission, it's legitimate.

if it only pays commission, it's a scam.

And sure, there's going to be exceptions on both sides, but based on the information available, like a poker hand, if it's commission only, I'm going to fold the hand. It's just not worth it to get my hopes high, to spend a lot of my time, to put wear and tear on my vehicle, for something most likely to be a scam.


Even worse: some companies ask you to invest some of your own money, and then only pay commission. And what they call "multi-level marketing" (= ponzi scheme).



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15 Jul 2014, 8:12 am

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Even worse: some companies ask you to invest some of your own money, and then only pay commission. And what they call "multi-level marketing" (= ponzi scheme).


While not always conclusive, it's a big warning sign.

Any opportunity that wants you to do stuff at your own expense certainly DOES NOT have confidence to invest in your future. They sign up as many people who are interested because the new people pay their own way. Sink or swim, not a dime comes out of their pocket, and they nurture the ones they see who have potential.



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18 Jul 2014, 7:39 pm

You are going to see a ton of those jobs online because nobody wants to do them so you need to be more careful. Keep in mind that if you find a job that seems too good to be true, it most certainly is. You'll see many jobs claim they are marketing that pay you a base salary plus commission but it will end up being all commission. Some red flags to look for include not being able to find any real information about the job or company online and seeing many fake positive job reviews that say the job is so great vaguely without giving one ounce of detail about what the actual job is. I'm going to show you an example of fakes reviews for this particular employer that claims they are marketing but in reality they make you sell cable inside Wal-Marts.

http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Greate ... 741311.htm

Notice how half the reviews fail to say it's a commission job? The only reason a few people finally revealed what the real job was was because of the negative reviews posted on there that exposed the company for what it really was. Other red flags to look out for include jobs that promise entry level management with no experience. There is no such thing as entry level management ANYWHERE unless it's for a pyramid scheme job. No real legitimate company is going to hire someone with no experience and pay them well. It's never gonna happen.


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25 Jul 2014, 6:26 am

Girlwithaspergers wrote:
I have been working as a clerk but I only did 2 hours once a week for three weeks. I am going to start doing five hours a week now, but I refuse to go to college so my father says I need to work full time.

Today, I applied to many jobs online and two companies contacted me. I was very excited at first because they appeared to be high paying marketing jobs, but then I did some research and many people said that they are door to door sales jobs and that it is a scam. The company has very little Twitter followers, and Instagram with corny memes and pictures of alcohol, and their Facebook posts grammatically incorrect quotes that say things like "Stay Positive" or they just say ratchet things. The CEO of the company's picture looks like he is 21 years old and it plays loud, obnoxious music on their company website.

I don't think it's legit because I got emailed about 2 hours after I applied with these marketing companies saying things like "after review of this application, I am very interested in you... please call me at this number to see if you are a good fit. And, I have only had one job and one volunteer job and I only went to high school. I don't think it's accurate because I looked up the job and it says they make like $50 an hour but there's no way a real company would want me out of HS for that job and so quickly. It makes me depressed though, because I was really excited at first and before I found out it was iffy, I stimmed quite a bit thinking of getting my own house someday and proving people wrong about not needing college.

Should I feel depressed about this?


I almost fell into this same trap as few years back. The position was for selling Kirby vacuums door-to-door, and I was fortunate to have researched online as I felt like something wasn't right - like it was too good to be true.

I'd say it's natural to feel initially depressed as a result of the disappointment situation, but negative feelings are meant to be temporary.


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