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SHG_Cyclone1
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15 Jan 2015, 7:41 am

I'll be the first to admit that it takes me a while to evolve with changes on the job.

I have two jobs,both of them I've been at it for a long time, and at both of them I am struggling to keep up with doing things the way they need to be done. Both bosses are trying to push me.

For some reason, I just don't like it when other people are getting credit for "pushing me". It's like it's more about them being better bosses than me being a better employee. It makes me feel like I'm slow or something.



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15 Jan 2015, 11:50 pm

Wow, I totally understand that. It's like you're being bent to their will. But honestly, why can't they have a simple discussion? Why all the bending?

Ugh, it's abhorrent. I have people who work for me and I do NOT treat them like that. But I have people above me who have done it to me. When I need someone to do something and they don't understand, I explain it. And I encourage them to ask why it must be done that way and why it must be done at all, and I explain that and we discuss other options together. And the work is *always* better when we do that. Of course, they often raise extremely good points and have much better ways to do things than the original way, and when possible, we do it their way.

Sometimes I have to tell them that it has to be done, and done that way, because that's what upper management wants, even though it may not be the best way. And I try to explain upper management's point of view.

So, basically, I think anyone who "pushes" you is just a bad manager. When that happens to me, I'm just so, so grateful I'm not related to them -- and I look for another job.



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16 Jan 2015, 11:24 am

I've never had a job before (working on that but not having much luck) but I can recall having some similar experiences in my academic life. I've definitely had teachers that were hellbent on running their class a certain way and refused to temper that with any flexibility. I definitely didn't appreciate it.

Might be a redundant question but would it be possible for you to have a one on one conversation with your managers that allowed you to explain your needs and current difficulties?


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Desurage
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19 Jan 2015, 7:42 pm

dryope is right, thats how they teach at the fancy manager schools how to do things. Theres a time taking a stand is important, and other times you just need to put on a little act for them to go bother someone else.



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20 Jan 2015, 10:24 am

Desurage wrote:
dryope is right, thats how they teach at the fancy manager schools how to do things. Theres a time taking a stand is important, and other times you just need to put on a little act for them to go bother someone else.


Meh, that is one thing I'm being pushed toward here. I have to have proof that I've been hassling people and constantly following up.
How about, we're all adults, I told them once.