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SilverProteus
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18 Dec 2007, 12:44 pm

...for their competence and not social skills? Especially in a job where interacting that much with people isn't that necessary?

I know that if it were up to my social skills, I would never get a decent job. I'm not that competent at anything in particular either, though maybe with lots hard work and better choices that can be fixed. I really don't want to be a parasite for the rest of my life. :(


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18 Dec 2007, 12:46 pm

I have such a job, but a college degree behind it. My job doesn't involve any social interaction, just professional interaction. If you look hard enough, there are such jobs.


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18 Dec 2007, 12:59 pm

That might have been the case for me on this one. I have a job and it's where you work alone, and I do the same tasks in order because it keeps me organized, it meses me up if my routine is different because then I am mostly just standing around doing nothing waiting for the office clerk to get back or the other house person just so I can ask them what do I do now. I also don't really talk to people, I won't just stop to listen and carry on a conversation, I still let guests talk to me just to be polite and I answer them when they ask me something and I respond when they say things like evening or good afternoon or morning and all my responses are the same. The director of housekeeping probably liked all that so she hired me.


But you do need to have the ability to multi task, be able to stop what you're doing to do something else (I do get PMed on the radio to deliver stuff to guests or to do something else like mop something up in the lobby), and of course be able to wear the uniform. What would have happened if someone had a sensory issue with the seams in the pants and the material of the clothes. I doubt they be given the special rule to wear their regular clothes on their job. They would probably wear their clothes under their uniform to block out the feeling of the uniform but I imagine they be pretty hot under it. Oh yeah, the job requires flexibility and because I wanted to be independent and not be able to have a job just because of AS, I had to work at being flexible and not have restricted routines. I don't expect to have special rules. Sickens me to see lot of aspies expect it and don't want to work on changing. So great, they find out what is wrong with them, doesn't mean it gives them the excuse to be that way and refuse to not work on it.
I think that's one of the reasons why lot of them are unable to have jobs. Did I want to live like that, No so I worked on my flexibility.



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18 Dec 2007, 2:54 pm

If you don't mind the work, physical labor jobs are good. The seldom require training, and it's actually a plus if you just work and don't socialize. When I'm at work, they never complain that I'm standing around talking like they do about other people. There's seldom a dress code, and crudeness is much more acceptable.
Of course, I prefer a physical job, you may be different.
An office is my idea of hell, but it seems some like the whole cubicle thing.



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18 Dec 2007, 3:11 pm

So many places are discriminate against our sort. They will never hire me for my valuable abilities, they will only take me for some disgucting mouth ability instead. "Equal opportunity Employer", my rear end. Equal... *chuckles*

I want my nursing home laundry job back! People left me alone and actualy noticed what I did, putting the BS aside and actauly didn't shove their neediness for chat on me. At least there I had freedom to make friends only if I chose to. (of course I didn't choose so) It was so stupid to quit, but then I didn't know I was aspie back then.



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18 Dec 2007, 10:45 pm

I've been hired for my skills - then later dismissed because I didn't fit in socially (then they made a lame excuse.)



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18 Dec 2007, 11:08 pm

zghost wrote:
If you don't mind the work, physical labor jobs are good. The seldom require training, and it's actually a plus if you just work and don't socialize. When I'm at work, they never complain that I'm standing around talking like they do about other people. There's seldom a dress code, and crudeness is much more acceptable.
Of course, I prefer a physical job, you may be different.
An office is my idea of hell, but it seems some like the whole cubicle thing.


I've known construction workers, in various trades, who where borderline sociopaths, who where hired, and retained, solely on the basis of their ability to get the job done.



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19 Dec 2007, 2:06 am

Agreed. Plenty of labour jobs require you to fit in with the social group too... my job on the railroad was terminated mostly for that reason.



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19 Dec 2007, 8:50 pm

Yeah...the subject worries me a lot. :shaking:


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20 Dec 2007, 12:57 am

I got a job over summer for my competence working as a research assistant on guests for a radio show. It was a crappy job where I only needed to work about ten hours a week. I also got an intern at a business for telemarketing. I first had to go through a certain number of hours in the intern where I wasn't paid and then they automatically promote me to become a full employee. I thought it might be a good experience but I later found out my boss gave me five times as much intern hours as other employees and didn't want me doing the important telemarketing work(I didn't know I had AS then and purposely wanted to do telemarketing for training). This experience made me realize how much I hate business and confirmed that I can't ever keep a steady office job.



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21 Dec 2007, 5:59 pm

I just graduated college, in accounting, top of my class.

I can get interviews, but that's about it.



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21 Dec 2007, 7:53 pm

I was hired for my abilities. I design extraordinarily complex machines for the fiberglass industry. My boss would like it if I wasn't such a dweeb and was more social but I'm the only one who can get the job done. As far as working with people I like working out in the factory with the operators when setting up new machines and getting the bugs worked out. We are all equals out there because at the end of the day we are all covered in grease, fiberglass and resin and don't smell very good either.


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01 Jan 2008, 12:44 pm

OMGpenguin wrote:
I just graduated college, in accounting, top of my class.

I can get interviews, but that's about it.


I have an accounting degree, a lot of experience, and a specialty in international taxation. And I'm good.

Had to change careers. The social stuff, the "good ol' boy's stuff" just killed me... plus I was a single parent - they'd all go out drinking after work, and I needed to go home to my kid.

Learn to play golf, and remember that after work social stuff is not optional. And overtime, done in the morning when no one is there, doesn't count - no matter how much overtime it is or what a good job you do.


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01 Jan 2008, 11:07 pm

I am a carpenter and Ive worked for a few different people that all loved having me there the reason why those jobs ended were just because we ran out of work for the winter, the only people you really have to interact with alot are the one or two others in your crew and even then theres alot of time working alone. I enjoy physical jobs though and im only happy at the end of the day if im nice and tired. There are some crews that i wouldnt want to work on though where i just wouldnt get along with the others so it all depends on the people that you would end up with.



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02 Jan 2008, 12:02 pm

SilverProteus wrote:
...for their competence and not social skills? Especially in a job where interacting that much with people isn't that necessary?

I know that if it were up to my social skills, I would never get a decent job. I'm not that competent at anything in particular either, though maybe with lots hard work and better choices that can be fixed. I really don't want to be a parasite for the rest of my life. :(


The interview for my current job involved a maths test in which I got full marks. I have no idea if the rest of my interview would have got me in - probably not!! But because I did well on that test I was given a job in the cash office which they couldn't advertise, and which I find infinately preferable to the job I was actually applying for.

I don't think my workmates like how introverted I am but I know my boss likes it when the safe balances to 60p on the busiest day of the year :D At the end of the day someone who had social skills probably wouldn't want to do my job because I'm on my own pretty much all the day.



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11 Jan 2008, 2:13 pm

duncansbass wrote:
I have such a job, but a college degree behind it. My job doesn't involve any social interaction, just professional interaction. If you look hard enough, there are such jobs.


Ditto!