Things that make you lose your job?
Jamesy
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Age: 35
Gender: Male
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Location: Near London United Kingdom
I've never actually been fired, but I've had short contracts that haven't been continued afterwards, so I suppose that means I wasn't good enough...? My best guess is that I was just too slow or asked help too many times. Or that my bosses didn't like me. I did some mistakes too of course, but nothing major... but maybe too many small ones?
Anyway, in general there's the obvious stuff like being late too much, not getting the tasks that you should do done or just making too many mistakes.
Fair Reasons -- Dismissal for Cause
Misconduct:
• Extreme insubordination to a manager or supervisor
• Failure to follow company policy
• Harassment of other employees or customers (i.e., racial, sexual, et cetera)
• Violation of the company code of conduct or ethics policy (i.e., dress code, tardiness, honesty, et cetera)
• Violence or threatened violence (verbal, written, emailed, et cetera)
• Watching pornography online
Performance:
• Employee lacks the ability, or is incapable of performing assigned duties
• Employee not meeting the standards outlined in their employment contract
• Employee performance is below what is required for the job
Redundance:
• Technology has made their involvement or presences no longer necessary
• The position itself is no longer necessary
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Most states are "at-will," in the absence of a union contract. In the United States
There are a couple which are, for all intents and purposes, "at-will."
Technically, in at-will employment, they can fire you just for wearing the wrong color socks.
In the UK, it's a little bit different.
If you punch somebody, it's very likely you will get fired immediately.
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Nothing quite as illustrious but, I have been poached from my work by a tradesman. My boss was employing a carpenter who persuaded him to let me become his assistant. So yes, you can stand out as being efficient and somehow end up loosing out.
I believe this works to your favor in the vast majority of cases.
I happen to work at a job where the “efficient” are scorned somewhat.
I had a tenancy to set an unrealistic pace for myself when starting a new job. Now I set a realistic speed for myself and try to stick to it.
Made a “bad gesture”(throwing my hands up in the air)and walking away when a customer was berating me as I was putting her groceries in her car, then she told the manager about it.
Didn’t get fired.
Told a co worker “shut up”(quietly), eventually left work early.
Didn’t get fired.
Manager shamed me for being slow to learn things(being a burden).
Didn’t get fired. Got myself out of there.
Someone called the cops on me when they saw me flip out briefly in my car, in the parking lot of the place that I work at.
Didn’t get fired.
Idk what to make of all that, given the things said in this thread and elsewhere.
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Early 20s male with Asperger’s and what feels like a mood disorder
To put it succinctly, it was my lack of noticing and subsequently not understanding neurotypical office politics that lost me every job I've had except for one. I lost one job because of non-job-related injury (i.e. car accident) that put me out of action for seven months.
At my places of employment I did my jobs as described and followed procedures and protocols as instructed, initially anyway. Very soon allegedly official procedures and protocols became situationally fluid, despite admonishings and punishments not being off the table if found out by the "wrong people", and to make a not too long story shorter, I said no to that every time unless I had formal authorization to do so. Coworkers and management were frustrated but acquiesced, for a while anyway. Eventually at every job one of the "wrong people" (i.e. the "wrong" manager or executive) inquired or somehow found out what happened, and they would ask around. I don't lie well. I lie so poorly I don't bother doing it. So cats were let out of bags. Coworkers and managers and even many executives became very unhappy. Coworkers and managers did because their way of doing them came under scrutiny, and executives did because they usually didn't know and subsequently found out a lot of stuff about the organization and goings on that they wished the didn't know about. One of two things then happened:
1. Life was made very hard for me at work. Micromanaging/microcriticism ratcheting up to manufacture write-ups and blame for usually fictional crises allegedly caused by me, and eventually I would leave because of the stress, or
2. My hours were cut, or I was laid off. Usually my job position was said to be eliminated, its responsibilities spread around, but they were usually hiring for it again (but a different job title) within thirty to sixty days. I was never fired.
Meistersinger
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Location: Beautiful(?) West Manchester Township PA
Burnout.
First level telephone tech support is a high stress, high pressure job even in the most optimal setting. I was taking a mental health day 2-3 days a month.
Ditto for managing a technical documentation repository for Naval Research and Development as a contractor employee. I won’t even talk about working as a contractor employee for the Deputy Chief of Staff—Operations and Plans, Information Support Office, Department of the Army—Pentagon, as an implementation analyst (the requirements for the job was always a moving target. You start on a given project’s requirements, and 24 hours later, you catch hell for not fulfilling the changed requirements for the project, which your superiors never bothered to inform you of said changes.
Add 2 side hustles and a commute of anywhere between 2 and 5 hours one way 5 days a week, and a family that believes in working until you drop dead, then immediately having to get back up and start the entire process, ad infinitum, as well as being forced to work, regardless of illness. (To them, there’s no such thing as burnout. Burnout=fat lazy-assed motherf!cker that doesn’t deserve to eat, let alone live.)
<sarcasm>Burnout, Me????? Nah!</sarcasm>
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