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06 Nov 2007, 8:04 am

What do you think about this article? Do you find it to be true?



Employers study applicants' personalities By ELLEN SIMON, AP Business Writer
Mon Nov 5, 3:33 PM ET



NEW YORK - A resume and a brief job interview can't answer the question that matters most to a new hire's co-workers: Is this person an absolute pain?


Despite a labor shortage in many sectors, some employers are pickier than ever about whom they hire. Businesses in fields where jobs are highly coveted — or just sound like fun — are stepping up efforts to weed out people who might have the right credentials but the wrong personality.

Call it the "plays well with others" factor.

Job candidates at investment banks have long endured dozens of interviews designed, in part, to see if new hires will get along with everyone they'll work with. Whole Foods Market Inc. holds group interviews, in which people who will work under a manager are part of the team that grills candidates and collectively picks hires.

Now other companies are setting up higher hurdles.

"In this bloggable, cell phone camera world, your brand on the inside is going to be your brand on the outside. If you have a bunch of jerks, your brand is going to be a jerk," said Tim Sanders, former leadership coach at Yahoo Inc. and author of "The Likeability Factor."

With the national unemployment rate low, at 4.7 percent, and the Baby Boom generation heading into retirement, employers from Microsoft Corp. to rural hospitals are worrying about finding enough workers. But companies like Rackspace Managed Hosting are bucking that trend, working hard to find reasons to turn people away.

Rackspace CEO Lanham Napier said, "We'd rather miss a good one than hire a bad one."

The 1,900-person company is divided into 18- to 20-person teams. One team is so close, the whole group shows up to help when one member moves house, Napier said. Job interviews at the San Antonio-based company last all day, as interviewers try to rub away fake pleasantness.

"They're here for nine or ten hours," Napier said. "We're very cordial about it. We're not aggressive, but we haven't met a human being yet who has the stamina to BS us all day."

There's a possible downside, however. In a Harvard Business Review article titled "Fool vs. Jerk: Whom Would You Hire?" Tiziana Casciaro of Harvard and Miguel Sousa Lobo of Duke University point out that people generally like people who are similar to them, so hiring for congeniality can limit diversity of opinions. One venture capitalist told the authors that a capable manager he worked with built a team that "had a great time going out for a beer, but the quality of their work was seriously compromised."

That's not the worry at Lindblad Expeditions, a 500-employee adventure cruise company.

Kris Thompson, vice president of human resources at Lindblad, said, "You can teach people any technical skill, but you can't teach them how to be a kindhearted, generous-minded person with an open spirit."

In the mating dance of job interviews, employers traditionally put their best feet forward, too, trumpeting their wonderful benefits packages while leaving out the bit about working late, eating cold pizza.

Not Lindblad. It sends job applicants a DVD showing not one, but two shots of a crew member cleaning toilets. A dishwasher talks about washing 5,000 dishes in one day. "Be prepared to work your butt off," another says.

"It's meant to scare you off," company founder Sven Lindblad said.

It does. After watching the DVD and hearing an unvarnished description of life onboard a Lindblad ship, the majority of applicants drop out, Thompson said.

New hires "undergo a drug test, a physical exam, they have to pack up their life, we buy them a plane ticket and outfit them with hundreds of dollars in uniforms," Thompson said. "If they get on board and say, 'This is not what I expected,' then shame on us."

She asks applicants to tell her about a job that wasn't what they expected and how they dealt with it. One of the best answers came from Kendra Nelsen, who said that while she was working construction, her male co-workers would help themselves to her tools. Her solution: She painted all her tools hot pink. Nelsen, who started as a deck hand, went on to earn a U.S. Coast Guard license and was just named assistant expedition leader in Antarctica.

At KaBoom, a nonprofit that builds playgrounds, the board was hammering co-founder and CEO Darell Hammond four years ago over the organization's high employee turnover.

"I rationalized that they were on the road too much, when in reality, it was the wrong fit in the wrong role," he said.

He started thinking about who left and why, then focused on the characteristics of workers who stayed. The list of traits: Can do, will do, team fit, damn quick and damn smart.

His team kept a closer eye on job applicants in the reception area, which is set up as a playground, to see how they acted around playground equipment.

"If you're early, you may have to sit on a swing or the bottom of a slide," Hammond said. People who stand with a tight grip on their briefcases instead of sitting on the playground equipment aren't asked back.

KaBoom sends prospective project managers to one of its four-day playground building trips, with the actual build on the last day involving 200 to 300 volunteers, many of whom have questions for KaBoom staff.

"If they're not easily approached, or they're easily stressed — this is the way we find out and they find out if it's not going to work," he said.

Hammond wouldn't say what percentage of applicants drop out, but he did say project managers' tenure has increased since they started sending them on the trips four years ago, from one year's tenure to between two-and-a-half and three years.

"We got more passionate people who stayed longer," Hammond said. "What was going to be expected of them when they came on board wasn't a stab in the dark."

Hammond said he isn't afraid of scaring people off, since the best candidates "are constantly looking at themselves to excel, not just cross the finish line, but blow through the finish line."

When all 90 of the people on his staff meet that criteria, he said, "It's incredible. If you have 89 who do and one who doesn't — it's painful."


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06 Nov 2007, 8:47 am

Yes. I had to find a temporary job for a few months. I had a very hard time finding a couple. Almost every single place I applied for gave me a personality test, even one of the jobs that seemed to hire me rather hesitantly. The other place just did a very extensive background check... my roommate, who was out of a job only a few years ago was shocked by this, she said almost nobody used to do this.

Interesting fact, it's only the lower-level sectors like department stores/fast food places, etc... I really see doing this. My past internships/research job I'm going back to in the spring, didn't do this at all and instead hired based on the extensive knowledge I have in my field of study. They might have asked a few personality-type questions in the interview and I was honest, but they didn't seem very bothered by my answers. But they never actually made me take a personality test, like all these other jobs did. I got tired of the personality test, all identical or very similar, they like get them from the same place obviously.

It's pretty obvious to me, since intelligent people often do have psychological issues, or at least what's considered psychological issues to others, why would they care? But a place like a fast-food joint (which is killing me inside I feel) care A LOT. The best workers there have completely the opposite personalty as me, and it's gotten to the point they pick on me in Spanish, I understand more Spanish than they think :x


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06 Nov 2007, 9:14 am

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06 Nov 2007, 9:15 am

I'm going to go to every place I see and fill out an application. When it comes time for personality tests and references, we're going to have a little chat instead. It will be more like an awareness campaign.

Not to actually get the jobs. I have other interviews for jobs I'll be "more suited for". This is ridiculous though because it is discrimination. People just keep finding more ways.


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06 Nov 2007, 9:33 am

Kitsy wrote:
This is ridiculous though because it is discrimination. People just keep finding more ways.


You object to the discrimination against hiring "jerks" in favor of "kind-hearted, generous-minded people with open spirits" ? (sorry if I'm misinterpreting. I just skimmed the article)


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06 Nov 2007, 9:43 am

alex wrote:
Kitsy wrote:
This is ridiculous though because it is discrimination. People just keep finding more ways.


You object to the discrimination against hiring "jerks" in favor of "kind-hearted, generous-minded people with open spirits" ? (sorry if I'm misinterpreting. I just skimmed the article)

Then, what about Aspies who are misinterpreted as "jerks" instead of, for example, "serious," "completely honest," "impatient with incompetence," "don't take part in workplace schmoozing and other time-wasting," or any other way some could be described? Truly mean-spirited people aside, sometimes "nice" is just overrated, IMHO.



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06 Nov 2007, 9:53 am

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alex wrote:
Kitsy wrote:
This is ridiculous though because it is discrimination. People just keep finding more ways.


You object to the discrimination against hiring "jerks" in favor of "kind-hearted, generous-minded people with open spirits" ? (sorry if I'm misinterpreting. I just skimmed the article)

Then, what about Aspies who are misinterpreted as "jerks" instead of, for example, "serious," "completely honest," "impatient with incompetence," "don't take part in workplace schmoozing and other time-wasting," or any other way some could be described? Truly mean-spirited people aside, sometimes "nice" is just overrated, IMHO.


In my not inconsiderable experience, people in the work force would eliminate someone that was 'impatient with incompetence' immediately. Work place schmoozing and time wasting would be seen as 'excellent interpersonal skills.' That 'completely honest' would be so dangerous because people need to know when to tell those little white/grey/black lies social people need so desperately. As for 'serious' the supervisor of the team across from ours (at work) has a little sign up saying "I am not frowning, I'm just concentrating" so people would not mistake her for being (gasp) 'serious'.

This is why you don't see a lot of Aspies in Management. We would hire the wrong people!

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06 Nov 2007, 10:32 am

alex wrote:
Kitsy wrote:
This is ridiculous though because it is discrimination. People just keep finding more ways.


You object to the discrimination against hiring "jerks" in favor of "kind-hearted, generous-minded people with open spirits" ? (sorry if I'm misinterpreting. I just skimmed the article)


lol no, that wasn't what I got out of the article. It is a lengthy article. I'll show you snippets.



Despite a labor shortage in many sectors, some employers are pickier than ever about whom they hire. Businesses in fields where jobs are highly coveted — or just sound like fun — are stepping up efforts to weed out people who might have the right credentials but the wrong personality.

That translates to this. Wrong personality in businesses isn't about being a jerk at all. It's about who has excellent bs abilites and who would you most likely see yourself either in bed with or having a beer with watching sports.

Kris Thompson, vice president of human resources at Lindblad, said, "You can teach people any technical skill, but you can't teach them how to be a kindhearted, generous-minded person with an open spirit."

This is backwards approach to hiring in my opinion. This is why I hear so many complaints from people who have to work with others who always mess things up in computer related fields because someone was hired but didn't really possess technical skills. It was the person with technical skills who is always cleaning up the mess.

Kindhearted= willing to suck up
generous minded= willing to buy beer
open shirt, I mean open spirit= not sure actually...



So don't bother wasting your time going to college. You must be good at socializing and kissing up. Those technical skills can be learned on the job. We all know that bosses are computer gurus and fix their own computers.


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06 Nov 2007, 1:24 pm

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The 1,900-person company is divided into 18- to 20-person teams.



Oh my heavens. What a nightmare. Remind me to never ever apply for a job there.


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11 Nov 2007, 12:48 am

peoples don;t always get on. say if a popular person got hired, then the boss decided they did not like them. they would need skills to get them through.



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11 Nov 2007, 2:06 pm

Didn't read the article, but employers always want someone with a good personality. You can be the best worker in the world, but if you don't have the interpersonal skills there, they don't want you. Lots of workplaces would rather have someone who is half as good of a worker, but is liked by everyone, than someone who is a very good worker but has people problems (that would be me, lol).



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11 Nov 2007, 2:23 pm

when i was hired for jobs i felt like they cared more if i was a team player and outgoing about the job i was interviewing for. and since i wasnt enthusiastic enough i rarely got the job i wanted. i went to interviews at lowell observatory and the geological place up here, nobody could understand my intrests i always had to have a boat load of educations for them



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11 Nov 2007, 9:14 pm

Space wrote:
Didn't read the article, but employers always want someone with a good personality. You can be the best worker in the world, but if you don't have the interpersonal skills there, they don't want you. Lots of workplaces would rather have someone who is half as good of a worker, but is liked by everyone, than someone who is a very good worker but has people problems (that would be me, lol).


Same. Actually for me it's, I get in and then they notice the lack of enthusiasm and choose someone else who shows enthusiasm over me even though I can perform the necessary tasks on time and get the job done.


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11 Nov 2007, 10:36 pm

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Not Lindblad. It sends job applicants a DVD showing not one, but two shots of a crew member cleaning toilets. A dishwasher talks about washing 5,000 dishes in one day. "Be prepared to work your butt off," another says.

"It's meant to scare you off," company founder Sven Lindblad said.


This would attract me. I like honesty, and it bothers me when companies try to sell themselves without letting you know any about what your responsibilities will be.


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12 Nov 2007, 1:38 pm

I've heard that potential employers use MySpace to determine people's personalities, in order to hire them.

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12 Nov 2007, 3:07 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
I've heard that potential employers use MySpace to determine people's personalities, in order to hire them.

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Sometimes. And to look for dirt on them. Facebook and google aswell.