How do you deal with your kiddo repeating movie scripts, etc
My son told me the other day his thoughts were "harrassing" him.
We were looking for a quote from character and he referred to it as a "catch phrase"
He was taking a "birds eye view" picture with his camera.
He uses many oversized words that most eight-year olds wouldn't use (some I wouldn't even think to use).
He can retell any story verbatim down to the smallest detail. His memory this way is incredible. Yet, he struggles with multiplication tables.
At times this type of memory can cause problems because he recalls imagery (good and bad) in vivid detail. It doesn't get foggy like it does in my head.
Stories are interesting and fun, there is no story behind multiplication tables - I bet if you made up a story involving multiplication he would remember the tables better.
I'm also willing to bet he does excellent in reading and social studies, and good but not amazing in english?
I can verify that this is a good one to use. Also, "Hey, that's from that show you watched last night/book you're reading/etc, isn't it?" in a loud enough voice to be overheard by those nearby.
Then you give them one of those "KIDS, huh?" looks and a shrug, and it's usually okay.
I can verify that this is a good one to use. Also, "Hey, that's from that show you watched last night/book you're reading/etc, isn't it?" in a loud enough voice to be overheard by those nearby.
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That could be a bad idea. I'm thinking that if I had been repeating a line from a book when I was younger and someone said, "Hey thats from last nights television." I'd very angrily retort/yell that it was not from television and probably keep on going until I got confirmation from said person that it was a line from television. However, I likely wouldn't bring up the fact that it was from a book, because what I was trying to get across was not where it was from, but it where it wasn't from
The key is not to think You just the very first words that come to mind. I suppose thats why i've always gotten better grades and comments like "I can see you put a lot of effort into this" on college research papers i've written the morning they were do, and worse grades and comments like "You need to spend more time on this" on papers I've spent weeks on
I usually react by supplying the next line, then find out just how far she'll go. If she gets to repeating a given line too often, I ask her to "change the station" - she reacts by repeating another show/movie/song. The only time it caused problems was when she'd been watching the Queen Latifah comedy Beauty Shop a lot, and started repeating the line when a customer puts Latifah's character, Gina, on the phone to tease Gina's former employer - "It's Gina, b!tch!" Had to get her to pick another part to repeat...
On the other hand, I've been known to encourage either her or my wife to remain focused on a goal by repeating, "Stay on target... stay on target..." (Gold Leader's line from the assault on the Death Star in Star Wars). My wife usually replies with, "Loosen up! There's too many of them!" (the replies from his wingman).
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LOL, within the past 6 months we were in Best Buy, and my son very loudly started talking the words from Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. Before I could stop him, he managed to say......
"Mama, just killed a man......."
Some man looked at us like we were the worst people in the world. I was actually SHOCKED that my son knew the words. He always likes the music to Queen songs, but I didn't realize he was picking up on the words.
My son doesn't use movie dialog as much as he used to in the past, but he remembers everything I say to him and I find him parroting my words. That's difficult for me to catch on sometimes when he's doing that.
1. DAD I DON"T WANT TO EAT GARBAGE! (Ratatouille???)
2. DON"T KILL ME (either Ratatouille or Bee Movie)
3. YOU'RE A DRAG QUEEN (Bee Movie?)
Ah, yes, as people turn around, while I'm trying to tell him to "shush"...hmmm...and of course, where we live, well, not everyone speaks english...so it's somewhat ignored...but I'm terrified of being in the US, at some store and him starting this...I have a feeling someone will be calling the cops or CPS on me!! ! help!
I don't have the answers, but as a parent, it might help to sit down with your Speech Therapist and determine where you're going with your kid and what expectations you should set. I say this because not every kid outgrows echolalia or scripting. Some will not only continue, but it can become THE ONLY form of communication for them for the rest of their lives. If you believe the kid is capable of more original and communicative language, I would work with the ST to assess him and see if that's possible. Then, set the goal and work towards it. Also, have it written into the IEP plan that teachers and therapists encourage original language. My kid used to be 100% echolalic and was a profound scriptor. Now, it's rare that he does it and has communication skills above his age. Yes, the professionals we worked with saw echolalia and scripting as a precursor to speech. But, they also knew that it's an area of language development that many Autistics never outgrow. They encouraged him to use his own words, to think his own thought, to dialogue with them. It paid off.
We've got teens and adults in our Autism Suport clubs who are 100% echolalic and have 0 receptive language. Most of them didn't get Early Intervention. Now is the time to work on it when they're young, especially since your kid is verbal which is half the battle. Last, I read somewhere that even kids who use assisted communication don't outgrow echolalia if it's not encouraged or worked on. When we saw "Autism: The Musical" the Autistic, teenage girl on there is profoundly echolalic. When her mother asked her a question, she echoed it into her assisted communication device. She typed it exactly how her mother asked it instead of giving an original reply.
I didn't really watch movies when I was young, but I read constantly and would use the scripts from books. There were times I got in trouble for using a rote phrase when it wasn't really appropriate. But on the other hand, when I was using my own words, I used them incorrectly as well (not the wrong words, but the wrong phrases, or register, or "attitude" or "tone" to what I was trying to convey).
It was always a shock to me when someone would be offended or confused, because I didn't know why it wasn't the right way to speak. I think the best thing to do is to supply "replacement" phrases that work better - I know that if I had had a script or social story, I would have used it religiously, just so's I had a guideline! (Except for times I wanted to look "good," "clever," "original," at which point I'd've taken a script from a "role model" - i.e., book.) I don't think it should be altogether discouraged, but explanations of why certain things can't be said are useful after a certain age.
I still script today... whenever I have knowledge, I repeat it word-for-word the way I learned it (either the way I read it in a book, or the way someone summarized it for me, etc.). I do this all the time, especially when passing on knowledge. I plan out conversations in advance with a friend so that I can go off the script. Some of it is knee-jerk, rather than useful - like whenever I hear a phone ring, I say the name of the store where I used to work (because when I worked there, the pattern was always "ring" "Store Name").
Edit: I didn't receive any form of therapy, and I can use expressive language - it's just easier to use scripts for certain things, and I have excellent rote memory so I have no trouble doing it. However, that might not be something you want your child doing when he or she is my age... so consider your options.
The Gold Wingman guys don't say "There's too many of them" after "Loosen up!"
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My son does this all the time and it really doesn't bother me but I do understand what a few have said about the stares while out in public. I just don't feel like I owe anyone a explaination of why he's doing it. He gets stuck on some lines or phrases and he'll use them for days on end..now that does get old fast lol
My son is GREAT at memorizing movie scripts and cartoon episodes. Just today on our 20 minute trip to piano lessons, he recited a Spongebob episode (for those of you who are fans, it was the one where Spongebob and Patrick were selling chocolate bars) verbatim. It was quite entertaining. When I tried to get in on the fun and said a line of my own, I was quickly corrected for a slight error I made.
As far as other people who hear...I say who cares what they think. I think I lost my ability to be humiliated in public long ago. My defense when we get stared at is to stare back with a wide eyed "go about your own day" stare. Works like a charm.
Think about the ways your child will put those skills to good use in the future. How wonderful.
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