Video are Leaking Out Showing School Using Padded Cell

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A recent report of seclusion and restraint are bring curious parents to the school.

One video recently released showing school using "Seclusion" in form of padded jail cell similar to Mental Hospital that keep mentally unstabled patients in tact.

Children of this school that used it refer to as "Mr.Jail" as a way to bring fear to those who defy the tyrant school workers.

This same method can be cited as child abuse and would have children retrieve immediately from parents. However, school is really exempt from such crime?

Please watch this video and you decide whether this is ethical and legal for school to do this.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Ar4JZOD98[/youtube]

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This is not okay in any circumstance.

those rooms were popular in my youth as both a threat and a consequence.

They still are in use. I know of at least 3 schools in Minnesota that use them and I would almost bet there are more.

I see a lot of weasel words.

We had one of those in my old grade school... Sometimes they'd leave us in it all day. There was also a camera in there so the rest of the class could watch you like a deranged animal.

This reminds me of the chokey in Matilda except the cell doesn't have any broken glass or nails it makes the child stand still. At least the cell lets you sit or lean or lie down, not making you stand still in one spot. I wonder if that's how Roald Dahl came up with the chokey idea for his book? It's supposed to be the child's worse nightmare for being locked up in a small room. My mom explained it when my brothers asked what was up with it after we saw the movie for the first time. She said those things were illegal and it wasn't real.

I think the concept of having a room like this is good...but the design is flawed.

I mean...what Aspie wouldn't love a room where they can melt down in and relax? I know I'd like one.

Plus...what about for the violent children. Example being Down-Syndrome. Whilst it may be immoral to shut them away...between shutting them in that room and letting them harm others, I'd have them in the room so fast they'd bounce off the walls!

A better design would for it to be darker and in more soothing colors, have the floor be more comfortable, maybe something to lie down on...

The camera though...big no-no. A meltdown is a very private thing. It's our own loss of control, not entertainment for others!

That's why I'm not black and white about it. Because what about violent kids, should they be allowed to hurt teachers and other students? What are they supposed to do if they can't put them in a small room so the students are safe and the teachers?

Oh, I only consider it immoral in the sense it furthers my own argument.

I can just as easily turn it on its head and say its moral to keep children in there. I don't believe it...but I can.

All schools should have a room like this but more conductive to calming down. Having it like it is with a bright light always on doesn't allow for rest.

I know of at least one school for kids on the spectrum that have a room much like this, minus the electronic lock. The room is used for the kids to escape from everyone else, they ask to go in there and the door is never locked. Admittedly I was horrified when I first seen it, but my son loves it. He takes in a book and chills out, as I said the door is never locked. My son has confirmed this with me actually he is cross that he cant lock himself in there.

So I dont think the room is a bad thing, I do think how its used could be seen as being bad. We also dont know that the material being pulled off the walls was from kids escaping or kids melting down? It is all in the interprutation. This is my opinion anyway. If I didnt know that these rooms could have their benefits I to would have been horrified.

I agree that kids need a quiet place to calm down, but LOCKING them in a tiny, dirty, padded room is not the answer. In the case of a violent child, a better plan needs to be in place to avoid reaching that point. Even as a last resort, I'm not okay with locking a child up.

I do realize that there are some cases where violent meltdowns are common, but I think in most cases, if a child has reached that point, it's most likely because the staff is not utilizing their full abilities to help the child.

Of course it's all easy for me to say, because while my son can get upset enough to kick a chair or throw something, he's usually easily settled when you know how.

Read this article, and then pay attention to the bottom about a school that does things differently that works for our kids.

My son was held in a room for 4 hours (not a "padded quiet room" and he was sat on") All because they didn't accept his AS dx, and claimed him to have ODD."

He has been traumatized over this. You can't talk to him about this incident without him falling apart. He has been scarred.

Schools need to change the way they do things. PERIOD.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/18/ ... index.html

This is not at all ok. My sons school has a quit space in each room for the kids to go if they need a break it's dark and has pads on the floor , big pillows and wieghted blankets but NO DOOR. If he feels he's ready to rejoin the group he can, if he needs to pee he's not forced to go in his pants. If he needs a time out he can go in there to clam down but it's never some place he's is unable to leave. I wouldn't do this to a dog why do they think it's ok to do to childern.

They had one of those in my school. (So yeah, I was sometimes put in it.) It's no big deal. Obviously it shouldn't be abused, but if it's not, I see absolutely no problem with it.