For NTs: AS test, I need some NT results and opinions...

Post Reply New Topic

Hi, I am starting a thread where I am asking people to do this new AS test.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/exp ... s-syndrome

^ That is it there. I am curious as to what result a person not on the spectrum would get on the test. It would be nice to see a few results and opinions on it here : ) . I put it in here because I know many of the non-autistic/aspergians on the board post in here.


NB: If you are on the spectrum, please use this thread here:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt173529.html

so I can compare the 2 data sets *puts on statistician's hat*.

I asked someone and he said it's "unintentional,intentional" and that this was the only logical answer to this, accordingly.

Because of different perceptions of language, there seem to be different ways to think about what's logical.

I hope some more people answer this test, too since I think, it's very intresting indeed.

Thank you for answering, Mayel, I got the same answer and I cant understand why people would not agree with me

I hope I can get some more neurotypical answers, I would love to know the NT point of view on this.

I say unintentinal/intentional. Money is something people are very intentional about. A commemorative cup only matters to the smoothie shop owners.

I similarly scored unintentional, intentional, and as a neurotypical person find it a little difficult to see how it could be seen otherwise by a logical person. In the first instance the subject expressly does not care if he receives the commemorative cup, and only receives it incidentally - so obviously this is not intentional. In the second case he has to pay another $1 to get the biggest cup and intentionally does so so that he can get the biggest cup. I will try this test on my (variously ADD/HFA) so today and see what he thinks!

(Later) ... for what little it is worth my (ADD/HFA) son answered illogically that Joe acted intentionally in both instances (different from what the psychological researcher had found was a typical response for HFA). I would incidentally not place much credence on extremely limited questions as were posed here, although they might point to matters to be investigated further.

Huh, I've been in similair situations and I didn't care about either the commerative cup OR the extra doller- those things are incidental- getting the biggest , thirst quenching relief was the ONLY intent and it didn't matter how I got there- all the rest was incidental- So that said, to me it reads Incidental/incidental OR immaterial/immaterial OR irrelevant-irrelevant ( always have had trouble w/ word problems like that. Sorry, I am not trying to mess w/ you, that is just how I see things- had to learn NOT to take tests the way I read them in school - my logic was different - I always saw more than one answer- even on multiple choice ( and usually, the answers I thought should be there weren't) And, please forgive if I have done something wrong-I am new to this site.

Thank you all for your answers. Keep them coming!

I am Nt and it was hard for me to decide the first situation with the commemorative cup. I would have to say I lean towards unintentional except that she told him the biggest was in that cup and he said he didn't care about the cup but wanted the largest drink anyway, so in some way he intentionally accepted the order being the one in the cup.

On the second it's somewhat the same, except the difference is that he has to give up something for the largest and by agreeing to do that he intentionally orders the more expensive cup.

nt here, mostly

i would say unintentional/intentional. the cup is unintentional because it was not a condition of getting what he wanted. the extra dollar is intentional because it IS a condition of getting what he wanted.

NT

Unintentional
Intentional

unintentional/intentional - I will ask my AS son this question and get back to you.
Reason: He wanted the biggest drink, it just happen to come in a special cup.
He wanted the biggest drink and he had to think about paying extra money for it.

I can see my son saying it was unintentional. He doesn't think about money like NTs do. He pays what he is told to pay without thinking about having some for later... for other bills or things he wants. He's bad at thinking in his head how much money he should give the cashier so he usually gives the biggest bill he has in his pocket and gets change. Sometimes, the cashier will tell him he needs a dollar more, or 50 cents more. It's just not concrete enough, I guess.

Scenario 1: The Free Cup Case

Joe says, "I don't care about a commemorative cup. I just want the biggest smoothie you have." So Joe's purchase of the commemorative cup is unintentional. This is because he would have bought the biggest smoothie even if there had been no commemorative cup. His plan (and therefore his intent) does not have to change from what it was when he was standing on the sidewalk.

Scenario 2: The Exrtra Dollar

Joe has been told that the largest smoothie is now 1$ more than it used to be. If he wants a large smoothie, he has no choice but to pay an extra dollar. He says, "I don't care if I have to pay a dollar more. I just want the biggest smoothie you have." So Joe's payment of an extra dollar is ]intentional. This is because his plan (and therefore his intent) does have to change from what it was when he was standing on the sidewalk. He had intended to pay X amount and now he must change that intention and pay one dollar more.

I can see how people would see both situations as identical. In both situations he is allowed only one route to the largest smoothie. I make the distinction because the first scenario does not require him to change his intent (pay X$, get smoothie) but the second one does.