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missykrissy
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24 Oct 2011, 4:06 pm

anyone using this with any success to help decrease hyperactivity?



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26 Oct 2011, 6:54 am

Can't answer now but as one of my "interventions" I am trying to start our son on omega 3 capsules. Should he agree to take them and it lessen his hyperactivity (he is restless, not extremely hyperactive) then I will advise.



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26 Oct 2011, 7:21 am

Seems to be the only dietary remedy that moderates tantrums
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16920077



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26 Oct 2011, 7:33 am

Interesting that the study showed positive effects for hyperactivity and stimming. But the numbers used were so small (13) that this would have no statistical relevance, and be indicative only. Wonder if this has been replicated with a much larger and more valid study?

On thinking about it, OP's query has the same problem. Asking any individual if the omega 3 helped with hyperactivity in any particular instance is likely statistically meaningless, as other factors may have led to the decrease in hyperactivity in that individual, even if the observations are correct.

So properly carried out scientific studies would be the best and really only relevant guide.



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26 Oct 2011, 7:45 am

We didn't notice any major behavioural changes, but did notice other significant health improvements. Then my sons got completely sick of taking it, and we had to take a break. I am just trying to get them back onto it.

Apparently the brand you use makes a big difference, as far as purity, potency and EPA to DHA ratio. The recommended brands are super expensive, and the one we used before (O3 mega+ joy) isn't readily available to us here anymore. Does any one have recommendations about a good brand that won't break the bank?



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26 Oct 2011, 1:57 pm

yes, the ratio is important or at least that's what the psychiatrist said when she suggested it. she said that the EPA should be at least double the DHA and that i could give him a total amount of 1500mg. i started it two days ago in two of my kids. no difference yet. I am using Jamieson Omega-3 CALM because it has the right ratio. each kid will be getting 2 a day, a total of 1400mg total. they are big gel tabs, the kids bite them and suck out the liquid, which tastes nasty but so far they are co-operating. the regular price is $20 for a bottle of 60. enough for one month for one kid. they were on sale half price and i had a $3 coupon so they were only $7. i am probaly going to get more tomorrow if they have any left so that if they do work i won't have to spend the extra $$.

I realize that asking on here is not the same as a real study. it is better though, than going on nothing. i was just wondering if anyone has had success with it because i have only heard of people trying it and it not making a difference. my 6yo can't take stimulants so i am trying to find something that will help him get into school full time because right now they are saying that he is too distracting to the other kids and so he is on a modified time table. my 5yo probably needs ritalin. i am trying out a few things first. right now we have just started to go through the diagnosis process so it's a long wait before he even gets in to see a doctor, probably a good year anyways and he is always in trouble at school because of his noises and not being able to chose activities or going from one thing to another. i'd like to make his day better.



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26 Oct 2011, 7:38 pm

hoegaandit wrote:
Interesting that the study showed positive effects for hyperactivity and stimming. But the numbers used were so small (13) that this would have no statistical relevance, and be indicative only. Wonder if this has been replicated with a much larger and more valid study?

On thinking about it, OP's query has the same problem. Asking any individual if the omega 3 helped with hyperactivity in any particular instance is likely statistically meaningless, as other factors may have led to the decrease in hyperactivity in that individual, even if the observations are correct.

So properly carried out scientific studies would be the best and really only relevant guide.


I agree with your evaluation.

However clinical studies involving autism are notoriously difficult to obtain sufficient numbers of parents who have children suitable for a clinical utility study that will be agreeable to sign the participation forms.

I have read a peer reviewed paper involving the utility of cognitive behavior therapy in reducing depression in HFA teenagers where the number of subjects was only 5!!

Kids on the spectrum have so many confounding and comorbid conditions that finding kids suitable for a study is going to be problematic if you are intending to control internal as well as external variables.



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31 Oct 2011, 8:10 am

great for your heart



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31 Oct 2011, 8:54 am

missykrissy wrote:
yes, the ratio is important or at least that's what the psychiatrist said when she suggested it. she said that the EPA should be at least double the DHA and that i could give him a total amount of 1500mg. i started it two days ago in two of my kids. no difference yet. I am using Jamieson Omega-3 CALM because it has the right ratio. each kid will be getting 2 a day, a total of 1400mg total. they are big gel tabs, the kids bite them and suck out the liquid, which tastes nasty but so far they are co-operating. the regular price is $20 for a bottle of 60. enough for one month for one kid. they were on sale half price and i had a $3 coupon so they were only $7. i am probaly going to get more tomorrow if they have any left so that if they do work i won't have to spend the extra $$.



Thanks for the brand recommendation. Those are less than half the price of the ones I was looking at (omegabrite and nordic naturals), and have all the features (epa/dha ratio, molecularly distilled etc). :thumright:

They are large capsules, but my sons are able to get them down.



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31 Oct 2011, 9:07 am

My children have been using omega 3 for years, I can't see it helps with hyperactivity not with my son. Its great for their skin helps with acne problems. It also has other health benefits.

I don't see much difference in concentration or focus but its hard to tell they both us meds also.


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31 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm

On statistics - what really matters is if it works for your child. Sample size can be really small but if it works for a few, it could possibly work for your child and is worth a trial.



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12 Nov 2011, 7:40 pm

just an update...
the omega 3 hasn't really helped with my autistic son, i found he was talking alot more(nonstop actually) so i took him off it. he has stopped talking all the time but has started stimming alot more so maybe i will try again? undecided as of yet.
The good news is that it has made a big difference for my 5yo who is not dxed as of yet but i'm pretty sure he is an aspie-lite or at the very least adhd. he used to make beeping noises he copied from the crosswalk all the time. they were very high pitched and hurt some peoples ears. he has since stopped. he is still hyper but i noticed a huge difference on the day i forgot to give it to him so i will make sure he gets it daily. i just increased his dose to the amount the psychiatrist recomended for my other son, as they are the same size.



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13 Nov 2011, 5:00 pm

I think it makes a difference, but sometimes difficult to gauge. Other dietary supplements I'm using are Phosphatydil Serine (promotes better function of neurotransmitters in brain) and ToCoQ10 (helps with concentration and energy). Have managed to stay drug free so far as a result. :)