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30 Mar 2010, 9:55 am

this is great news! Glad you and your son are doing better. Thanks for sharing that about not treating your son as if he is fragile. I struggle with this too. I guess it is because he has had delays in learning things from the get go, and he is my only child, that I do tend to baby him. I walk a fine line between trying not to baby him, and realizing that he does have limitations that make things more difficult for him. I am trying to learn to let go more too, and let him try things before I just do it for him. I know what you mean about seeing their self esteem improve when they are so happy that they can do something on their own!

Peace and blessings to you and your family!



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30 Mar 2010, 2:22 pm

Your update was a joy to read. Thank you for taking the time!


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31 Mar 2010, 8:08 pm

Thank you for the wonderful update!

My son is 17 and is constantly reminding me that he isn't 8 anymore!! He has matured so much but I'm wondering if I will catch up. :)



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20 Apr 2010, 10:43 am

Glad to hear things are going better. I recently found this site and registered yesterday and have been reading different posts and came across this one and completely understood what you were saying. My daughter, 8 next month, takes her sweet time about everything and I am a wait-til-the-last-minute then run around half crazy trying to hurry her along the way which does not work at all. I laughed at the tearing up of the homework because I have done the EXACT same thing out of sheer frustration. She kept arguing with me while I was trying to help her and when she launched into tantrum mode, so did I, I ripped up the paper and said "Now you don't have homework to fuss about! You can explain to the teacher why you have no homework tomorrow." Of course, as you found, it didn't help one bit. I've also snapped one of her pencils when she blew up because I had the wrong color lead pencil and I told her who cares, it writes the same and she kept complaining so I snapped the pencil and told her now she'd never have to worry about having that pencil again. That didn't help either, lol.

What has helped us is allowing extra time for EVERYTHING. Because if I don't, the more hurried she feels, the more anxious it makes her and then come the tantrums. I still dress her most of the time. She is usually capable of doing it herself, but a lot of the time it takes her forever so I end up doing it, or assisting. Feeding herself is another issue - takes her FOREVER. I have to remind her to take another bite or she'll sit there for 30 mins and have maybe managed a couple bites left to her own devices, unless she is really hungry. I can relate to the feeling like you do nothing but walk around and nag all morning.

We're not bad parents, just people dealing with situations that aren't always so easy and sometimes we make mistakes, but we are human after all. :wink:



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20 Apr 2010, 1:03 pm

I know I'm chiming in a little late, but I wanted to share this. Every morning I had the same issue with my son. Not dressing himself, playing, not getting ready, being late. During that time I'm rushing him around as his father is standing at the door with his hands on his hips yelling that he's late stressing everyone out.

I have a chore chart for my son. Easy stuff, like taking the trash bag from the kitchen to the garage, feeding the dog, making his bed (not perfect, but done). I also have chores like dressing yourself ALL DAY, and being on time in the morning. Yes, he should do this himself, but the incentive works wonders and trains him too. (he's eight) Once I put on there that he can make money being on time in the morning, and he is now watching the clock, he made his own time schedule, he has learned when he is running late and how to compensate (sometimes with my help), and he has a set schedule of when we do what in the morning. If he's late, well, he doesn't get his money.

In addition to the chart, I do not buy him any toys anymore. He saves his money and buys stuff himself. He buys all of his video games and he even paid for 2/3 of his Wii, and an entire DSi. It teaches him the value of money, and teaches him to wait for things, and teaches him the control to purchase things he "really" wants, not just anything he see's on TV.

I use pictures to symbolize what he needs to do, and pictures of money so he can see what he's earned. I use PECS, but you can use anything. It really gives him a sense of accomplishment, incentive to be more independent and to earn, save and spend (or not to spend) money.

Homework could fit into this too, but he goes to a very small private school and doesn't come home with much. I do have exactly the same issues with homework, although in second grade he's a little better than last year. When he gets upset because I corrected something (which, like your child, is usually the issue) I tell him to go to his room, or to sit somewhere until he is calm enough to work on his homework and that usually works. He sometimes is still mad, but sometimes he finishes it just to get me away from him. :D

Incentive charts work WONDERS with my child because he's controlling and rigid and very much a perfectionist. The more control I give HIM, the better WE are. I wish I could figure one out for social skills. :? :roll:



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20 Apr 2010, 1:11 pm

Have you tried a timer for eating? You may need to have some 'warning" beeps, but that may work. Same with dressing. If you are done, or dress in time you get or have this or that. Not necessarily money, but some reward. Stickers maybe...earning enough for some kind of reward at the end of a designated time period. The more stickers you have this week, the more time you can do this...or you can have this or that depending on the number of stickers.....

If it works you will have much thicker hair :wink:



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20 Apr 2010, 5:52 pm

The timer doesn't always work well, I still end up having to walk by and go "you have 5 mins left, speed up!" She has bad time management skills. I haven't seen a timer with warning beeps before, that might work better for her. I am planning on getting a chart going for her, we've had one in the past but didn't keep up with it because it didn't help a bunch, but maybe since she is a little older it might work better.



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21 Apr 2010, 7:24 am

pennywisezzz wrote:
The timer doesn't always work well, I still end up having to walk by and go "you have 5 mins left, speed up!" She has bad time management skills. I haven't seen a timer with warning beeps before, that might work better for her. I am planning on getting a chart going for her, we've had one in the past but didn't keep up with it because it didn't help a bunch, but maybe since she is a little older it might work better.


I don't know of a timer with warning beeps, I was just thinking that you can reset it...which at the same time you can remind her that she has 5 minutes while you are setting the timer. it also may help her with getting a sense of time if you use the same increments over and over.

Maybe your chart was too complicated or too long. I have had people tell me they have a prize jar. Something out of reach but visible, with a clear side so they can see the prizes. (stickers, little novelty stuff you get at a party store) Or if your child likes time with you, maybe she can work towared something of that nature, going to get ice cream with mommy or a happy meal at McDonalds for a bigger prize. It has to have something that a child wants bad enough to work for. Keep trying...adjust it a litte and make it as simple and straightforward as possible. It works if the incentive is good :)



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21 Apr 2010, 8:14 am

Just out of curiosity, is there some reason you are trying to get your child to eat faster? I generally take about 2 hours to eat a meal. And no I am not kidding about that. It has been that way as long as I can remember and my parents used to always freak out that after an hour my dinner would only be half eaten. I never understood why speed eating is so important to people. Your child wont starve himself if you simple give him enough time to eat.



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21 Apr 2010, 2:53 pm

If we don't have anywhere to be I have no problem with her taking her time. But when we are getting ready for school I don't have all the time in the world for her to eat so slow. I don't want to get her up any earlier because we already get up so early as it takes her time to get up and wake up and start moving about. It's like she gets a bite, chews forever and then swallows - then sits there zoned out. I'm like "Take a bite, baby." And she's "Oh yeah." Like she forgot she was supposed to be eating, lol. :roll: Breakfast time before school is the only time I have to stay on her. Other meal times she can take as long as she likes.



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21 Apr 2010, 6:41 pm

Well of course, its morning. Do you expect her to focus on eating when she is barely conscious enough to not fall over? There is a reason I don't eat breakfast in the morning, it simply takes too long to force it all down. Just do what I do and pack a few granola bars so your child can snack on something when they get hungry.



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22 Apr 2010, 12:54 pm

Would a nutritious breakfast drink work better in the mornings for you? I find that is easiest for me on those days I don't want to take the time to eat something for breakfast but still want the energy to make it to lunch.



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22 Apr 2010, 2:59 pm

Yeah, we've done the drinks in the past - but you still have to remind her with them, too. She'd forget about granola bars or anything packed. It's not that she isn't wanting to eat, it's just that she goes off into her own little world. As long as she eats until she feels full I don't care, some mornings she eats a bunch, other mornings she just eats a few bites. She usually eats better in the evenings.



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22 Apr 2010, 5:20 pm

Another quick tip I learned about the breakfast drinks is: straws. (Straws help, especially if the drink has to be consumed in the car on the way to school.)



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25 Apr 2010, 10:09 pm

Yeah, funny you should mention that. My daughter drinks more when she has a straw. Never quite figured that one out.



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25 Apr 2010, 11:23 pm

malya2006 wrote:
First I'd like to say thank you everyone SO MUCH from the bottom of my heart for sharing all of your experiences and giving me such great advice and feedback. I'd just like to say that things are going AWESOME right now. I was really feeling like I was hitting rock bottom when I wrote that post. Right now my son is doing great at school, he's raising his hand in class, finishing his classwork and homework without a huge issue, and no more little notes about not focusing in class (except for 1 little one but who cares lol.) He's also interacting with his sister and pretend playing with her. He's becoming very independent and putting on his own socks and shoes and going in the car and putting on his seat-belt. I can tell he's so proud of himself and so am I. He's very affectionate lately because he feels good about himself. He's in a very good spot right now and that makes me so happy. :D

The change in him comes from him internally and also from the great advice you folks have given me. The stress I put on him was causing nothing but anxiety for both of us. When I can I try to get everything ready for the next morning as much as possible so we don't have to rush in the morning. I work second shift so by the time I get home the kids are sleeping. His father is with him at night and I've tried to tell his father to help him with homework. His father must have ADD also because when I'm home on the weekend, I ask his father to help him with his homework. His father tells him to get started and my son just sits in front of his work and just says random things over and over again. His father goes on the computer and forgets the whole thing. I come downstairs 15 minutes later to check the progress and my son doesn't even have his name written on the paper yet. Needless to say, his father is not the best person to help with homework. We've tried doing it before school in the morning and it's just as bad if not worse because he isn't focused in morning, that's usually when we go to swim class to get ready for school. He does much better at school after physical activity.

I just decided to myself that I'm going to "let go." Who cares if he doesn't finish his homework? Who cares if he gets it wrong? I decided to let my kids make mistakes and let them learn on their own. It takes so much effort from me because I am a controlling person, the same way my dad was. But I'm not going to run my kid's life, they will learn life's lessons on their own. The only way my son realize the he needed to be on time for things is when I showed him he missed pre-school because he was throwing a tantrum before school. I drove there just to show him the kids were already in class and no one was outside. He cried all day which broke my heart because he didn't want to miss school, but boy did he learn a lesson that day. Thank you for making me realize what I was doing wrong. Letting the pressure go and allowing him to make his own choices is helping him become more confident. If he tells me he doesn't want to do homework, I'd say "fine, you won't get a check mark from your teacher." I'd say this nice and calmly and then he decides himself he wants to do it and he's so much prouder of himself when he finishes because it was his idea, not me forcing him.

If he has an off day and I have to dress him or guide him, I have to remember that it's okay. Everybody has an off day, even myself. Nobody's perfect, I have to let go! My life does not have to be perfectly organized and planned! It's okay to be late, it's okay to not do homework, it's okay! The important thing is I have my beautiful healthy children, my parents, my sisters, my friends, my home, my job, my car and my health :D . Thank you for putting things into perspective for me! I tend to lose focus on what is really important.

Someone asked me if I am on the spectrum. I may be on the spectrum. I tested to be on the spectrum in the online questionnaire. However, I don't think I am on the spectrum enough where it inhibits my life. I do suffer from meltdowns from time to time though as you can tell lol.

The other thing I learned this week, that I wanted to share is to not treat my son like he's fragile. Having confidence in him will give him confidence in himself. I will not use his diagnose to explain his behavior. I will not treat him like a poor little boy with Asperger's nor will I let other people treat him that way. I promised myself I would not do this while I was talking to him. I asked him if the water was cold in his swim class. He's so skinny and sensitive that I tend to worry about him being uncomfortable. He said to me, "yes it is, but I take it like a man." LMAO! I almost died laughing, from that point on I realized what I was doing to him, I was treating him like a poor little baby and he is feeding into it. I need to treat him like the "man" he wants to be treated like lol. Now I put him in charge of his little sister and I give him more responsibilities and when he accomplishes them he is ecstatic. I can see his self-esteem rising. Please Lord don't let this feeling go away. I know with ASD it's a constant emotional roller coasters ride. There are weeks where you feel like you've accomplished so much, and there are weeks where you are banging your head against the wall. But tonight I'm just gonna go to bed smiling and not think about what tomorrow may bring and take it one day at a time. Thanks again!

Thanks for telling us about your success story - it was great to hear about it!