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26 Jun 2010, 1:50 pm

My mom would slap my mouth if I cursed so I never said them. One time she washed my mouth out with soap. Other times she send me to the stairs but those were words I'd say that were disrespectful such as "duh." Even "shut up" was a bad word so I'd be getting my mouth slapped if I said it so I only said it in school since it was a school word. :lol:



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26 Jun 2010, 2:05 pm

Just for a little perspective, since some of the posts made me think of it.

I'm not a strict mom. I've taught my kids that words hurt, I tell them they've made a bad choice when they use disrespectful terms, and we've discussed at length why some words are considered "bad." I've never washed out their mouths with soap, punished them for "talking back," or any of that. I realize there are family members who think I let the kids walk all over me, and it really doesn't bother me, because here is the crux of the matter: both are model citizens. No behavior issues, no bad language issues, NOTHING when they leave the house and not usually in it, either. I get glowing reports from EVERYONE.

OK, there were the highly embarrassing times when they were younger and let slip a word they didn't really understand in public. But once they understood why I was so horrified, they never repeated it. I don't believe it's in the nature of most kids to want to yank anyone's chain if they have easy and natural ways to let out moment to moment stress, and I don't try to squash any of the little ways they have to express normal frustration, and have taught them that home is the safe place for letting go (as long as they don't do anything destructive, hurtful to each other, or abusive).

I hear so much worry that if one doesn't go zero tolerance, the kids can't make it in the world. By my experience, that isn't true. I remembering watching my very spoiled (in my eyes) younger sister develop a confidence and glowing public presence, and it affected how I view parenting. Between the older kids and the youngest it seemed my parents had learned that they didn't need to be so strict.

Sometimes there is a child that needs a harsher regime. The "black sheep" adult in one of my friend's families has always said that of herself. But, overall, fearing that your good child won't be good if a parent eases up a little ... that just isn't founded. Strict parents can raise very bad kids; it is consistency of method and action that matters more than anything else.


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26 Jun 2010, 3:47 pm

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I'm not offended by swearing, I am offended by the stupidity of people who don't have a large enough vocabulary to express themselves any other way. Perhaps that's one way to approach it with this child - that using that kind of language is likely to make people think she's not smart enough to use better words. Surely she doesn't want others to think she's a 'stupid sh*t'. :twisted:

It takes one to call somebody one.


This is excellent advice! (In my opinion)

I too, feel that only the most unintelligent need to express themselves through meaningless fowl mouths.

As mum to three teenage boys and a 9yo girl, this was the approach I took with my lot.

Thus far, it's unheard of for my daughter to swear. The boys? Well there's a place and a time, and they don't over do it. They seem to use cursing on occasion for extra added expression. :roll:


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26 Jun 2010, 5:39 pm

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So my cute little 7yo AS daughter has developed an ugly habit of calling her older brother a "little sh*t" when she gets mad at him. And more recently, when I put her in her room because she's out of control and needs some time to cool off, she'll yell through the door that I'M a stupid sh*t. I don't bother spanking her as spanking never helped and I don't do it anymore; I've given her time-outs but this is worse than the usual things I give her time-outs for; I take things away but she continues her behavior; and when she's calm and we discuss this rationally, she agrees with me that such things should not be said - it's just when she's in the moment that she forgets herself, or flips and doesn't care at the time. How do I stop this behavior?

We never say anything stronger than "gosh" or "darn" in our household, but my kids briefly went to a babysitter who watched a couple of foul-mouthed kids, and I suspect this is where she got the notion that this was acceptable. They also go to a Christian school and I can't imagine how it would be received if she were to say that sort of thing THERE. My ex-husband has threatened to spank her very hard in front of others (such as her friends or grandparents) if she keeps this up, but I'm fairly certain the only thing that will do is hurt their relationship.

If anyone has had similar issues and was able to find a solution, I'd be very grateful.


Well in my family we got soap in the mouth and that worked well enough most of us only needed to experience it once.

None of us swore much in general. The insult of popularity was generally "butt head" though my older sister could turn out far more creative ones that didn't even involve one "cuss word".

She used to whack me in the head with my own fist while telling me to stop hitting myself.

My parents just ignored the tame stuff.



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26 Jun 2010, 10:20 pm

I once saw a parent here or somewhere else (I don't remember which forum) and the parent said she tells her child bad words are lazy words.



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27 Jun 2010, 3:59 am

League_Girl wrote:
I once saw a parent here or somewhere else (I don't remember which forum) and the parent said she tells her child bad words are lazy words.


Quite good advice actually, especially for an aspie. I would often choose to retaliate with an intelligent witticism that left the other person struggling to find a come back, than respond by immature name-calling. By the time they had worked out what I had said I could be at the other side of the playground :3



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27 Jun 2010, 7:02 pm

Mama_to_Grace & DW_a_mom, thank you - excellent advice that I'm going to put to use. Willard, I absolutely loved your post, and I thank you. I have told my children before that grown-ups who swear a lot do so because they don't have big enough vocabularies, so I've set the groundwork for this conversation with my daughter without doing so consciously, maybe.

"Bad words are lazy words." League_Girl, I love that. I'm going to have to remember to say that to my kids as it goes right along with what I've already said about others who swear a lot.

I did have one conversation with my daughter in which she said (she brought this up), "I love you, Mom. When I say I hate you, I don't hate you, I'm just mad." And I said to her, "I know, sweetie. As you get older, you'll learn how to say exactly what you mean." I am trying to show her I'm not angry at her for the things she says when she's upset, I just have the responsibility to help her learn a better way.


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