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DW_a_mom
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15 Aug 2010, 1:49 pm

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Yesterday while my husband was trying to get his medicine, I was looking through a magazine and I come across an add for treatment for people with learning disabilities and it included ADHD and Aspergers and it said it can change your way and help you overcome your learning style. I thought "what is that supposed to mean? A cure and bam you don't have it anymore?"

I think getting rid of my learning problems would be nice so that way I won't struggle and I be able to go to college and won't have lot of difficulty and I be able to be more successful with money and my husband can get a house like he always wanted and I be making a lot more we be able to pay more bills.


I'd have to see that article, but it doesn't sound like they are promoting a "cure" or suggesting you "wouldn't have it anymore." Or, if they are, they're using word play to appeal to panicked parents ... Regardless, it sounds like what they are doing is following some sort of therapeutic teaching method. Basically, another work-around. Something that probably is effective for some people, and not for others.


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15 Aug 2010, 2:14 pm

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League_Girl wrote:
Yesterday while my husband was trying to get his medicine, I was looking through a magazine and I come across an add for treatment for people with learning disabilities and it included ADHD and Aspergers and it said it can change your way and help you overcome your learning style. I thought "what is that supposed to mean? A cure and bam you don't have it anymore?"

I think getting rid of my learning problems would be nice so that way I won't struggle and I be able to go to college and won't have lot of difficulty and I be able to be more successful with money and my husband can get a house like he always wanted and I be making a lot more we be able to pay more bills.


I'd have to see that article, but it doesn't sound like they are promoting a "cure" or suggesting you "wouldn't have it anymore." Or, if they are, they're using word play to appeal to panicked parents ... Regardless, it sounds like what they are doing is following some sort of therapeutic teaching method. Basically, another work-around. Something that probably is effective for some people, and not for others.


It wasn't an article it was an ad about a local place here to help people who have learning difficulties.

It was a local magazine and it had a bunch of advertisments in it for parents who have kids. It advertised stores or pre schools or child care places or businesses.



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15 Aug 2010, 6:11 pm

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But, perhaps, there are individuals for whom the loss of gifts would seem to be a worthwhile cost to the removal of burdens.


These are people more than likely who have not been taught to see the beauty in who they are, and that is sad indeed. Everyone has burdens.



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16 Aug 2010, 3:03 pm

Normal is almost a swear word to me. My dad was fitness, and my mum was normalcy. I'm living my life as I please, because my parents tried to make me normal, by shutting me up. I never talk to my parents, about my special interests, anymore. I haven't done so, for 20 years. That's why I am, the way that I am, here at WP.

However, you can raise your children, however you wish.


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17 Aug 2010, 12:12 am

So you're saying he has to listen to your son talk about his video game over and over just because it's part of him and he has to accept it?

Sorry dude, I wouldn't want to keep hearing the same thing over and over about something and I also have AS so therefore I make sure to not do the same thing to others. My mom used to shut me up about my obsessions because she got tired of hearing them and told me if that is all I talk about, no one would want me around because they wouldn't want to hear me.



Do you think his friend could have asked him to stop, instead of telling him he wishes there was a cure? I think that would have been better. My son wouldn't talk at all if he couldn't talk about his video games.

I do think if your a true friend you take the good with the bad. They have known eachother for 2 years and he knows that is all my son talks about. They became friends when the two quiet kids that no one wanted to hang out with found eachother.



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17 Aug 2010, 1:21 am

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So you're saying he has to listen to your son talk about his video game over and over just because it's part of him and he has to accept it?

Sorry dude, I wouldn't want to keep hearing the same thing over and over about something and I also have AS so therefore I make sure to not do the same thing to others. My mom used to shut me up about my obsessions because she got tired of hearing them and told me if that is all I talk about, no one would want me around because they wouldn't want to hear me.



Do you think his friend could have asked him to stop, instead of telling him he wishes there was a cure? I think that would have been better. My son wouldn't talk at all if he couldn't talk about his video games.

I do think if your a true friend you take the good with the bad. They have known eachother for 2 years and he knows that is all my son talks about. They became friends when the two quiet kids that no one wanted to hang out with found eachother.


Yes I do but unfortunately it's considered rude to tell people to be quiet about what they are talking about. But yet it's acceptable for parents and teachers and therpists to tell the child that because they are the teacher and they are teaching them social skills.



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17 Aug 2010, 1:34 am

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So you're saying he has to listen to your son talk about his video game over and over just because it's part of him and he has to accept it?

Sorry dude, I wouldn't want to keep hearing the same thing over and over about something and I also have AS so therefore I make sure to not do the same thing to others. My mom used to shut me up about my obsessions because she got tired of hearing them and told me if that is all I talk about, no one would want me around because they wouldn't want to hear me.



Many of us have kind of one pointed mind or extremely "narrow" interests
To me it's a good thing
doing one thing and doing it right is better than do many things half heartedly
i'ts good to be passionate beyond what is considered appropriate by the current shallow society and it so called expert and doctors
The solution might be to find some one who shares your passion or at least teaching the child that not every one shares his beaut full take on life
Problem is that this kind of solution necessary leads to extreme selectivity and a very introvert behavior which the curists doesn't like on ground of us having to learn proper "social skills"
that's why many AS find themselves with no proper support at all as the "professional" help only make things much worth



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17 Aug 2010, 1:34 am

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consmom wrote:
So you're saying he has to listen to your son talk about his video game over and over just because it's part of him and he has to accept it?

Sorry dude, I wouldn't want to keep hearing the same thing over and over about something and I also have AS so therefore I make sure to not do the same thing to others. My mom used to shut me up about my obsessions because she got tired of hearing them and told me if that is all I talk about, no one would want me around because they wouldn't want to hear me.



Do you think his friend could have asked him to stop, instead of telling him he wishes there was a cure? I think that would have been better. My son wouldn't talk at all if he couldn't talk about his video games.

I do think if your a true friend you take the good with the bad. They have known eachother for 2 years and he knows that is all my son talks about. They became friends when the two quiet kids that no one wanted to hang out with found eachother.


Yes I do but unfortunately it's considered rude to tell people to be quiet about what they are talking about. But yet it's acceptable for parents and teachers and therpists to tell the child that because they are the teacher and they are teaching them social skills.


You don't want to drive a friends nuts to the point that they don't want to be friends. But, there is much in-between, fortunately.

I kind of drew the line with my son when he started testing me on how well I had absorbed the information he constantly threw at me. I told him I was happy to have him talk and talk and talk, but if he expected me to actually absorb all that information, he had another thought coming; I don't have the time, energy, or memory power for that. I am not a data person, and he knows that, and he isn't going to be able to turn me into one just by talking to me in a constant stream. We agreed that I would not shut him up unless there was good reason to, and he would accept that maybe I'm more often than not only pretending to be listening. He does like me to at least pretend ;)

In every relationship, the two people involved are going to have to figure out the balance for themselves. Having one person get frustrated should be the opening for starting that dialogue. There is no right or wrong answer on how people should resolve it, just what those two individuals decide they can live with.

My son learned a lot about the flip side of this issue when he made friends with another boy who is a lot like him. His new friend would follow him everywhere to continue the conversation, even into the bathroom if he tried to escape by saying he had to go to the bathroom. When he was complaining to me about how annoying this friend's talking was, I just looked at him and said, "sounds familiar." He had to stop and think about that, and while he resisted the idea he was anything like this other child, he eventually figured out that maybe, at times, he was, and he realized he didn't want other kids to think of him as being annoying in that way. He holds it in pretty well at school et al.


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17 Aug 2010, 7:39 am

So much depends on the child. A man who loved guns and motorcycles was my son's role model for years. They could talk for hours but the man had a family and a time consuming job so I was usually the target for my son's encyclopedic knowledge of both subjects because I was always there. I repeatedly told him I had no interest in motorcycles or guns and he should find a friend his age who was interested. This was about as effective as it would have been if I were speaking to a chair. I later learned he assumed I had no interest because I had never ridden on a motorcycle or fired a gun. When we went to a country fair where one of the booths used real pellet guns, he challenged me to try to hit the target. I'm virtually certain I had told him I had been taught how to shoot by my father but if I did, it hadn't registered or he just couldn't grasp that anyone could know how to shoot and still dislike guns. He didn't realize that I used the first shot to see how accurate the sight was so he was pleased when the first shot barely hit the target but surprisingly angry when all the subsequent ones were close to or in the bulls-eye. This was a sore spot with him for years. With my NT imagination, it seemed to me he felt betrayed.



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25 Aug 2010, 2:44 pm

Why would you cure Asperger's? People such as the creator of Pokemon (forgot his name), Bill Gates, and Albert Einstein made great contributions to society and they exhibited autistic-like or Asperger's characteristics. Asperger's is not a disorder. It just seems more like a personality, or a friend.



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25 Aug 2010, 3:13 pm

I gather the people who want a "cure" for Aspergers are rarely the Aspies themselves. Probably spouses and other family members who think if the person with Aspergers could just lose the characteristics the observers find wearing they wouldn't lose the aspects of their minds that make the Aspies so wonderful. I can empathize with this. My son was in his late forties when we discovered he had Asperger Syndrome. He had a super-high IQ and lived a hellish life because everyone expected him to fit the patterns and behavior of bright kids only more so. The teens are hard on everyone, but especially grim for boys who can't grasp the alleged norms everyone else seems to understand.



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08 Sep 2010, 12:12 pm

I am under the impression we are the cure.


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