20 Sep 2010, 7:39 pm
20 Sep 2010, 7:44 pm
20 Sep 2010, 7:53 pm
Nice! Thanks. Googling phytic acid and phytin from your link provides heaps more information. Awesome find. 
I am fairly sure that "synonyms" here means "this chemical is also called" not "this chemical also is".
20 Sep 2010, 7:54 pm
ominous wrote:
Nice! Thanks. Googling phytic acid and phytin from your link provides heaps more information. Awesome find. I am fairly sure that "synonyms" here means "this chemical is also called" not "this chemical also is".
I am fairly sure that "synonyms" here means "this chemical is also called" not "this chemical also is".No, it means it also is.
20 Sep 2010, 8:04 pm
Meadow wrote:
ominous wrote:
Nice! Thanks. Googling phytic acid and phytin from your link provides heaps more information. Awesome find. I am fairly sure that "synonyms" here means "this chemical is also called" not "this chemical also is".
I am fairly sure that "synonyms" here means "this chemical is also called" not "this chemical also is".No, it means it also is.
No it means also called.
I am pretty sure the chemical formula is what is most important here. I'm no chemist though so maybe you can help if you are!
Can you explain how the chemical formula C6H6Ca5MgO24P6 (inositol's chemical formula) is calcium and magnesium and not something different to those things? Also why would they call it phytic acid or C6H6Ca5MgO24P6 if it wasn't a different compound to calcium (which is not just "one" chemical but many with a variety of different forumulae as per http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/ ... ounds.html ) and/or magnesium which is the same @ http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/ ... ounds.html
I am confused, sorry. I hope you're not saying eating talc is the same as taking a magnesium supplement because talc has magnesium in it. I'm still half asleep and need to take my car to the mechanic in ten minutes.
20 Sep 2010, 8:12 pm
ominous wrote:
Meadow wrote:
ominous wrote:
Nice! Thanks. Googling phytic acid and phytin from your link provides heaps more information. Awesome find. I am fairly sure that "synonyms" here means "this chemical is also called" not "this chemical also is".
I am fairly sure that "synonyms" here means "this chemical is also called" not "this chemical also is".No, it means it also is.
No it means also called.
I am pretty sure the chemical formula is what is most important here. I'm no chemist though so maybe you can help if you are! Can you explain how the chemical formula C6H6Ca5MgO24P6 (inositol's chemical formula) is calcium and magnesium and not something different to those things? Also why would they call it phytic acid or C6H6Ca5MgO24P6 if it wasn't a different compound to calcium (which is not just "one" chemical but many with a variety of different forumulae as per http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/ ... ounds.html ) and/or magnesium which is the same @ http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/ ... ounds.html
I am confused, sorry. I hope you're not saying eating Talc is the same as taking a magnesium supplement because talc has magnesium in it. I'm still half asleep and need to take my car to the mechanic in ten minutes.
Wrong. That is the chemical formula. I did my research on this some years ago and know a little bit about what I'm talking about. You'll have to talk to a chemist if you want that kind of breakdown. Calcium is also known to reverse and treat cancer. Magnesium aids in the prevention of heart attacks. It's all there and isn't that complicated.
20 Sep 2010, 8:23 pm
Meadow wrote:
ominous wrote:
Meadow wrote:
ominous wrote:
Nice! Thanks. Googling phytic acid and phytin from your link provides heaps more information. Awesome find. I am fairly sure that "synonyms" here means "this chemical is also called" not "this chemical also is".
I am fairly sure that "synonyms" here means "this chemical is also called" not "this chemical also is".No, it means it also is.
No it means also called.
I am pretty sure the chemical formula is what is most important here. I'm no chemist though so maybe you can help if you are! Can you explain how the chemical formula C6H6Ca5MgO24P6 (inositol's chemical formula) is calcium and magnesium and not something different to those things? Also why would they call it phytic acid or C6H6Ca5MgO24P6 if it wasn't a different compound to calcium (which is not just "one" chemical but many with a variety of different forumulae as per http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/ ... ounds.html ) and/or magnesium which is the same @ http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/ ... ounds.html
I am confused, sorry. I hope you're not saying eating Talc is the same as taking a magnesium supplement because talc has magnesium in it. I'm still half asleep and need to take my car to the mechanic in ten minutes.
Wrong. That is the chemical formula. I did my research on this some years ago and know a little bit about what I'm talking about. You'll have to talk to a chemist if you want that kind of breakdown. Calcium is also known to reverse and treat cancer. Magnesium aids in the prevention of heart attacks. It's all there and isn't that complicated.
What? Which part of what I said was wrong? You did your research but you haven't explained what you're talking about or what part of what I typed is "wrong". Now I'm not confused, I'm irritated. I think I'll leave you to your "wrong" and keep giving my son inositol instead of calcium and magnesium, because "calcium" and "magnesium" are not the same thing as inositol.
"Calcium" is a LOT of different chemicals and "magnesium" is too. It's the chemical compound (a change in state that occurs when two or more chemicals come into contact to cause a reaction -this is basic chemistry here-) which subsequently changes the structure of the chemicals that are used in the recipe that creates inositol. The Ca is the calcium "bit" and the Mg is the magnesium "bit". Inositol is not calcium and magnesium. But yeah, thanks for the link. 
20 Sep 2010, 8:29 pm
ominous wrote:
Meadow wrote:
ominous wrote:
Meadow wrote:
ominous wrote:
Nice! Thanks. Googling phytic acid and phytin from your link provides heaps more information. Awesome find. I am fairly sure that "synonyms" here means "this chemical is also called" not "this chemical also is".
I am fairly sure that "synonyms" here means "this chemical is also called" not "this chemical also is".No, it means it also is.
No it means also called.
I am pretty sure the chemical formula is what is most important here. I'm no chemist though so maybe you can help if you are! Can you explain how the chemical formula C6H6Ca5MgO24P6 (inositol's chemical formula) is calcium and magnesium and not something different to those things? Also why would they call it phytic acid or C6H6Ca5MgO24P6 if it wasn't a different compound to calcium (which is not just "one" chemical but many with a variety of different forumulae as per http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/ ... ounds.html ) and/or magnesium which is the same @ http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/ ... ounds.html
I am confused, sorry. I hope you're not saying eating Talc is the same as taking a magnesium supplement because talc has magnesium in it. I'm still half asleep and need to take my car to the mechanic in ten minutes.
Wrong. That is the chemical formula. I did my research on this some years ago and know a little bit about what I'm talking about. You'll have to talk to a chemist if you want that kind of breakdown. Calcium is also known to reverse and treat cancer. Magnesium aids in the prevention of heart attacks. It's all there and isn't that complicated.
What? Which part of what I said was wrong? You did your research but you haven't explained what you're talking about or what part of what I typed is "wrong". Now I'm not confused, I'm irritated. I think I'll leave you to your "wrong" and keep giving my son inositol instead of calcium and magnesium, because "calcium" and "magnesium" are not the same thing as inositol.
"Calcium" is a LOT of different chemicals and "magnesium" is too. It's the chemical compound (a change in state that occurs when two or more chemicals come into contact to cause a reaction -this is basic chemistry here-) which subsequently changes the structure of the chemicals that are used in the recipe that creates inositol. The Ca is the calcium "bit" and the Mg is the magnesium "bit". Inositol is not calcium and magnesium. But yeah, thanks for the link. You're going to have to look into it on your own. I have told you what I know. It isn't complicated as that. You ask me, yet you are suggesting I don't know the difference between talc and a mineral compound so I suggest you talk to someone you feel is more qualified to answer your questions.
20 Sep 2010, 9:23 pm
I appreciate you clarifying that you don't really know what you're talking about. So anyhow, inositol is helping my son. It's also a different chemical compound than calcium (supplement type) or magnesium (supplement type) and the benefits will not be the same taking inositol as they would be taking calcium and magnesium (ie. they are not interchangeable).
Back to the kitchen, I smell something burning!
20 Sep 2010, 9:29 pm
ominous wrote:
I appreciate you clarifying that you don't really know what you're talking about. So anyhow, inositol is helping my son. It's also a different chemical compound than calcium (supplement type) or magnesium (supplement type) and the benefits will not be the same taking inositol as they would be taking calcium and magnesium (ie. they are not interchangeable).
Back to the kitchen, I smell something burning!
So anyhow, inositol is helping my son. It's also a different chemical compound than calcium (supplement type) or magnesium (supplement type) and the benefits will not be the same taking inositol as they would be taking calcium and magnesium (ie. they are not interchangeable). Back to the kitchen, I smell something burning!
I never indicated there was no benefit to taking Inositol, and it isn't necessary for you to attempt to insult my intelligence, yet again. I have shared what I know. I shouldn't have to be insulted this way or interrogated in such a manner for further information when I have merely offered what I do know.
20 Sep 2010, 9:56 pm
Meadow wrote:
ominous wrote:
I appreciate you clarifying that you don't really know what you're talking about. So anyhow, inositol is helping my son. It's also a different chemical compound than calcium (supplement type) or magnesium (supplement type) and the benefits will not be the same taking inositol as they would be taking calcium and magnesium (ie. they are not interchangeable).
Back to the kitchen, I smell something burning!
So anyhow, inositol is helping my son. It's also a different chemical compound than calcium (supplement type) or magnesium (supplement type) and the benefits will not be the same taking inositol as they would be taking calcium and magnesium (ie. they are not interchangeable). Back to the kitchen, I smell something burning!
I never indicated there was no benefit to taking Inositol, and it isn't necessary for you to attempt to insult my intelligence, yet again. I have shared what I know. I shouldn't have to be insulted this way or interrogated in such a manner for further information when I have merely offered what I do know.
When you say someone is "wrong" and don't explain yourself, it might help you to prepare to be questioned about it. I appreciate you finding the link with the chemical structure of inositol. I am concerned that you were suggesting that calcium and magnesium = inositol and I believe it is important for people to know it is not the same. It would be cheaper to purchase calcium and magnesium, but the benefits would not be the same as inositol. That is why I was asking for clarification, which you perceive to be "interrogation". In future, please clarify what is "wrong" instead of just quoting an entire two paragraphs and stating "wrong", especially if you do not want to be questioned further about it.
20 Sep 2010, 10:39 pm
ominous wrote:
Meadow wrote:
ominous wrote:
I appreciate you clarifying that you don't really know what you're talking about. So anyhow, inositol is helping my son. It's also a different chemical compound than calcium (supplement type) or magnesium (supplement type) and the benefits will not be the same taking inositol as they would be taking calcium and magnesium (ie. they are not interchangeable).
Back to the kitchen, I smell something burning!
So anyhow, inositol is helping my son. It's also a different chemical compound than calcium (supplement type) or magnesium (supplement type) and the benefits will not be the same taking inositol as they would be taking calcium and magnesium (ie. they are not interchangeable). Back to the kitchen, I smell something burning!
I never indicated there was no benefit to taking Inositol, and it isn't necessary for you to attempt to insult my intelligence, yet again. I have shared what I know. I shouldn't have to be insulted this way or interrogated in such a manner for further information when I have merely offered what I do know.
When you say someone is "wrong" and don't explain yourself, it might help you to prepare to be questioned about it. I appreciate you finding the link with the chemical structure of inositol. I am concerned that you were suggesting that calcium and magnesium = inositol and I believe it is important for people to know it is not the same. It would be cheaper to purchase calcium and magnesium, but the benefits would not be the same as inositol. That is why I was asking for clarification, which you perceive to be "interrogation". In future, please clarify what is "wrong" instead of just quoting an entire two paragraphs and stating "wrong", especially if you do not want to be questioned further about it.
I originally said that I took an Inositol product that had calcium and magnesium and that was disputed as nonexistent and that it was not a vitamin or mineral per sa and I located some information that shows it does exist as the products below show. I told you I am not a chemist as well and can't answer all your questions in the demanding and rude manner in which you wish to be informed. You on the other hand continue to be condescending, rude and insulting and there is no call for it. I'm not used to be treated that way and I would appreciate it if you would back off and not in a manner demand that I educated you when I have already told you I'm not qualified to do so. I could never boldly expect anyone to feed me information of any kind and then insult them that way while I was at it.
http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/ ... 0myo-.html
http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements ... sitol.html
20 Sep 2010, 10:41 pm
Yes, you win. Have a nice day.
20 Sep 2010, 10:44 pm
20 Sep 2010, 10:45 pm
Excellent. Glad we worked that out.
20 Sep 2010, 10:47 pm
ominous wrote:
Yes, you win. Have a nice day.
I shared my experience and all you did was try to undermine and insult me. There was nothing whatsoever to win, as far as I'm concerned. That is you.
